Union support is hilarious. he literally busted a strike.

go ahead and google it comrade.

I honestly never know what you think you are proving when you go on like this. Whether Trump got especially close to succeeding has never really been the key point, at least to me. The key point is that the the president of the United States showed that he would have been willing to disregard the results of an election and remain in office through some combination of chicanery and force if it had been possible for him to do so. That is the enduring legacy of the 2020 election.

The funny part is the same people telling us dems = republicans also minimize the coup attempt. If Pence really had gone along and pretended like GA, AZ, WI or whatever were genuinely in doubt (which by all accounts he considered), why wouldn't these same both sides morons just say "well dems claim they won republicans claim they won, who could possibly figure out the truth?"

Your takeaway is explicitly not "we were 'this close' to losing democracy on January 6th", which is insane both because no "we" were not, and of course because democracy is just a myth.

That Trump was part of a farce to attempt to overturn the election should not be surprising at all though-- that's what his presidency was all about-- but it's important to know that it was just a farce. They did the exact same thing in Brazil-- January 8th-- and it was a farce there too. Bolsonaro is now banned from running again for like 4 or 8 years I forget which.

You must keep following stories, even when the facts doubt support your opinions. He ended up getting the union what they wanted. His labor review board selections have been great.

I know it's not cool to like Democrats. But you're not in highschool anymore.

I read the mainstream media.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bid...ke-2022-12-02/

I am just one step up from a clapping seal like you.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...win-sick-leave

The follow up is that they got the sick days. So it worked out.


You gotta keep paying attention to stories. You have been told this.


You just gotta get out of your high school mindset about politics. It's fine to be a cringe lib. You don't have to pretend to be cool all the time.

Vic's basic problem is that the aesthetics of left-wing socialist democracy are actually extremely boring and cringe. He'd be so much happier as a Trumpy angerbear.

I get those vibes as well. Lots of people are bored by a system that mostly works and needs to be improved in difficult ways that usually only provide marginal returns.


The railroad workers union situation is a good example. It wasn't even a strike. A small portion of the union still had issues. There was no chance it was going to develop into a full strike with or without the law.

Your "system that mostly works" leaves behind millions in its wake. It has no answer for poverty in cities, and it has no answer for poverty in the country.

He should switch to the aesthetics of centrist libs. Nothing "cringe" (this is a verb, goddamn it, not an adjective) about Kamala Harris, or, like, Chuck Schumer, or those Lincoln Party, Ronald Reagan-electing Republicrats who the Dems welcomed with open arms.

#RESISTANCE

It has plenty of answers for poverty in cities and rural areas. We just don't to support those solutions. I'm hopefully we can put the EITC we had for two years back in place in 2024 if things go well in november.

the majority got one sick day.

I mean, perfect example of what I mean, it's all performative tribalism and angsty teen aesthetics. Not even a trace of any concern over left-wing policy, but they sure get animated over letting Russia annex its neighbors.

It's such an awkward fit trying to mix these guys in with the folks who want to expand rural internet access or let people open banking accounts at their post office. Vic would be so much happier as a proud boy.

everything they dont like is a Trumper and racist. its pretty amazing to watch the contortion in real time.

I just don't have the nuance to call literally everyone I disagree with a Repblicrat.

arent the Republicans well known for crushing labor disputes and removing the ability for unions to strike?

https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/sta...79015992447432


I think we're going to see a lot of ads like this over the next year. The horrific abortion legislation that's getting passed is going to be a nightmare for so many people. Most people don't want to deal with that kind of anti-woman BS.

you would be shocked at how Trolly feels about using abortion to win elections.

I doubt I would be shocked.

Abortion is yet another crystal-clear example of how bankrupt the whole “both sides are the same” mantra is.

It's pretty clear that abortion is a fundamental issue for a massive segment of the population. support for abortion rights is in the clear majority. It's also clear that republicans and democrats approach this fundamental issue in completely different ways.


I agree, it shows how foolish the both sides are the same mentality is.

Ah yes, the Earned Income Tax Credit, that'll do it. What about all the jobless people who don't earn any income through which to receive a tax credit? Such things are effectively means-tested to exclude those that need the most financial help.

Edit: Apparently those with no income can qualify for the EITC, although you still have to file a return. That's nice. A little increment is better than nothing.

So, if things don't "go well in november", well, we will still be inside this same highly exploitative economic system. So, what, the system DOES have answers for poverty ... but only if the Republicans lose?



I've seen Victor discuss policy. I have as well. Certainly at least at a comparable level to anybody else.

Sure, there are some leftists who are just in it for the guillotines, in the same way that EVERY ideology features many adherents who are just in for personal fulfillment, being on a team, or whatever. Just don't pretend like centrist dems (I prefer the phrase "right-wing Democrat"), Republicans or anybody else discuss policy more than leftists.

I believe I'm the only person ITT who used the word "Repblicrat", well, kind of, I mean, I spelled it normally. So, if you're addressing me, I certainly didn't call anyone close to "literally everyone I disagree with" a "Repblicrat". The Lincoln Party is literally comprised of Republicrats, and I mean actually literally, not the incorrect way in which you use the word.

Both sides are not the SAME, but both sides are EVIL. One somewhat less so. Neither side has any interest whatsoever in addressing (policy based!) needs to reduce poverty/income inequality.