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08-15-2024 , 01:30 PM

#8376

Gorgonian

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Originally Posted by lozen

We had the Junior Fidel Trudeau pledge that in Canada a year ago that if food companies stop gouging he would do something about it . What has he done nothing Just as he has done nothing on the worlds most expensive cell phone plans. Kamala will do nothing as well

USA is a free market and if every consumer stopped shopping at Safeway than they would be forced to drop prices. She will not be bale to do a thing about grocery prices

Not that I was asking you, but this did not answer my question at all.

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08-15-2024 , 01:46 PM

#8377

jalfrezi

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When the first sentence of a post compares a neo-liberal plaything for billionaires to Castro you know you can stop reading.

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08-15-2024 , 01:55 PM

#8378

lozen

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Originally Posted by Gorgonian

Not that I was asking you, but this did not answer my question at all.

fair enough I am in favor of a free market system without subsidies

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08-15-2024 , 02:28 PM

#8379

Gorgonian

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Originally Posted by lozen

fair enough I am in favor of a free market system without subsidies

Believe it or not, this also did not answer my question.

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08-15-2024 , 02:36 PM

#8380

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Gorgonian

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you in favor of corporate price gouging on groceries?

i'm in favor of shopping where i think i can get the best value.

if i'm a comapny, i'm in favor of charging a price where i feel i can get the best return (this includes more than just price)

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08-15-2024 , 02:41 PM

#8381

Luciom

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The idea that if you are against banning X by law then that means you are "in favour" of X is such a monstrous, disgusting, framing of reality, and denotes such an hatred of basic freedom that I still don't know if people using it without irony are immensely evil, or just completely incapable of basic logic.

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08-15-2024 , 02:42 PM

#8382

d2_e4

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,696

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Originally Posted by Luciom

Don't sit on the fence bro, tell us how you really feel.

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08-15-2024 , 02:45 PM

#8383

Luciom

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According to experts in this thread, you are in favour of eating buffalo dicks raw every morning unless you explicitly backed a bill to make it a crime

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08-15-2024 , 02:48 PM

#8384

biggerboat

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 51,853

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Originally Posted by Luciom

i'll take immensely evil

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08-15-2024 , 02:48 PM

#8385

steamraise

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Republican urges his party to vote for Harris

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A vote for Harris doesn't mean you're a Democrat. It just means you're a patriot,
you're doing your duty as an American to step up to the plate and reclaim this countries future.

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08-15-2024 , 02:49 PM

#8386

biggerboat

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 51,853

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Originally Posted by Luciom

According to experts in this thread, you are in favour of eating buffalo dicks raw every morning unless you explicitly backed a bill to make it a crime

I'm in favor of letting you eat all the raw buffalo dicks you want.

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08-15-2024 , 02:50 PM

#8387

Luciom

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

I'm in favor of letting you eat all the raw buffalo dicks you want.

And I am in favour of letting sellers of goods and services in competition set prices however they want, which is never "gouging", just what people should be allowed to do with their private property.

And it's insane to be in favor of price controls in general especially today, after absolutely certain proof they never work and always make things worse.

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08-15-2024 , 02:52 PM

#8388

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

I'm in favor of letting you eat all the raw buffalo dicks you want.

Bonus points if they are still attached to the buffalos.

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08-15-2024 , 02:54 PM

#8389

housenuts

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Buffalo Wild Dicks is definitely a price gouging establishment

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08-15-2024 , 03:14 PM

#8390

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by Luciom

So why you don’t let governments in peace to let them set tax rates as high as it should to stop making deficit and let the free market do its thing ?

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08-15-2024 , 03:18 PM

#8391

Rococo

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Originally Posted by Luciom

It isn't a moral failing. It's just bad logic.

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08-15-2024 , 03:21 PM

#8392

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by Rococo

It isn't a moral failing. It's just bad logic.

I think Luciom is the craig whisperer in part because he also sees absolutely everything in terms of morality. Not being able to find the area under the curve is a moral failing in their world. As a more concrete example, my irritation at craig's word salad became "moral horror".

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08-15-2024 , 03:31 PM

#8393

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

So why you don’t let governments in peace to let them set tax rates as high as it should to stop making deficit and let the free market do its thing ?

makes sense. you could buy a jug of milk for $5, or with 500% tax you could buy it for $30. imagine the bustling economy with this type of taxation.

so then because tax is so high, milk sellers would need to reduce the price of milk to $1, so people would be able to afford it after taxes. but it costs them $4 to produce the milk, so they are losing $3 per jug, but at least people are able to buy it at the same price. and the government is raking in the taxes.

#winning

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08-15-2024 , 03:36 PM

#8394

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by housenuts

That's how it works for cigarettes here, apart from the manufacturers lowering their prices part. I go through about 2-3 packs a day which costs me the best part of £30-45 (USD 40-60).

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08-15-2024 , 03:39 PM

#8395

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Harris to propose “federal ban on corporate price-gouging” on groceries and “impose stiff penalties in the food industry,” campaign announces.

Communism starting to come to reality.

You don’t have to go has low as luciom to make a point ….
Not all bad idea are link to communism.
And it can be a bad idea on its own …

Have we reach a point on the far far right that Nixon is communist now ?

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08-15-2024 , 03:41 PM

#8396

housenuts

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

That's how it works for cigarettes here, apart from the manufacturers lowering their prices part. I go through about 2-3 packs a day which costs me the best part of £30-45 (USD 40-60).

Ya people get raked over the coals for cigs and alcohol. I guess it's a medical benefit analysis. If you're taking stuff detrimental to your health and more likely to require medical care, you pay a high price.

Or alternatively, the government simply likes to profit off people's vices. See lottery, where the government takes 50%

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08-15-2024 , 03:41 PM

#8397

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Free Market will resolve it in the end and set the right prices .
Isn’t that your theory ?

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08-15-2024 , 03:43 PM

#8398

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Free Market will resolve it in the end and set the right prices .

Isn’t that your theory ?

No. It's impossible to overcome that level of government extraction.

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08-15-2024 , 03:44 PM

#8399

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Well maybe u forgot how the organized criminal controls loteries and counterfeit alcohol before government intervene ?

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08-15-2024 , 03:44 PM

#8400

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

No. It's impossible to overcome that level of government extraction.

What level .
Taxes level moves up and down shrug

Obv if u speak about the will of politician to be responsible over it at the cost of losing an election , the yes ok I agree with you .

But the problem ain’t taxes , it’s the politicians managing it .
That is why the U.S. and the entire world are so much indebted .
Taxes never were high enough .