so, to the extent that there were any substantive takeaways from the trump and elon 69 last night:

- trump wants to eliminate the department of education (this is a project 2025 thing, yeah?)
- they both think that firing striking workers is good and hilarious
- global warming is good because rising sea levels = more oceanfront property (???)


any other country-fixing proposals i missed?

Education bad. Dumb****ery good. Dumb****ery breeds more dumb****s to vote Republican and perpetuate the cycle of idiocracy.

Seems about the size of things.

Borders bad. Poor, unskilled immigrants good. Poor, unskilled immigrants breed more poor, unskilled immigrants to vote Democrat and perpetuate the cycle of communism.

Ah yes, cOmMunIsM. Run, Horsenut, run, there's a red under the bed!

Trump:
-large scale deportation of undocumented immigrants
-"We’re going to have the best Iron Dome in the world."
-"We're going to drill baby drill"
-let police "do their job [...] without being destroyed" (here i assume he meant letting them headshot women carrying hot water)

Elon:
-"we could build a moon base"
-"send astronauts to Mars"
-"solve traffic with tunnels"

We all have our own fears. I run from communism. You run aUtHoRiTarIaNisM.

Yes, thanks for confirming that your fears are illusory and mine are based in reality.

the Dems just tried to implement large scale deportation. and they have given the police more money than anyone else in history.

so tell me again why you guys think this is bad?

someone needs to save the baby

also lol again @ the cultists saying that there was no lisping. have heard it in a bunch of different clips, and a good example at around 4:20 of this one, that i hadn't heard until just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2S6yohCMEU


you look and sound like absolute ****, sir

Unskilled workers exist a lot in non immigrants population .
You racist or something to target immigrants ?

Lot of poor are non immigrants and they breed a lot ?
You racist or something to target immigrants ?

Well seem Florida for example got lot immigrants and they vote red shrug

Communism in the US ?
lol …
The healthcare and education system with the wealth inequalities at all time high is a full proof how communism is present down there

You missed the border part

the EU has rules against intentionally/knowingly spreading disinformation..

the assertion is that Trump and Musk know the things they are saying are lies and are deliberately spreading them on twitter which can be subject to the EU's jurisdiction.

Even if you dislike Ilhan Omar as a person or her politics, the fact that a female Somali refugee can come to America and rise to such heights is a testament to how much more tolerant, progressive and better America is than pretty much the rest of the world.

Could you imagine a female Somalian refugee/immigrant becoming a high ranking politician anywhere in the Third World or Global South? Of course not. It would be a laughable conceit.

Of course she responds by calling (Jewish?) Americans "literal Nazis", but that says more about her own intolerance and bigotry, and those of her constituents, than the country that has accepted her with so much tolerance and open arms.

GENOCIDE!!!

I've never heard of this person until earlier today. She's anti crypto so I don't like her. But good on her for what she's achieved.

Wonder if EU takes issue with the edited CNN clip from musk/Trump where CNN pretended like they were supporting nuclear war. That was weird.

Well I don’t know many countries that are communist that have immigration problems ?
Do you ?
People don’t seem enjoying to migrate in communist countries .
So there’s that for the U.S. being communist using your border theme.

And again fwiw , Obama did more in deportation then trump.
Democrats cares about border too it seem .

I dont get the racist or something to target immigrants.
Immigrants can be copy of you but from another country.
Your pun doesn't look great to me.

exactly so why blame immigrants if they are a copy ?
Why immigramts would vote democrats and not republicans if they are a copy ?
Florida anyone ?

With the "copy" thing you reveal your ideology in ways you probably don't realize.

The idea that someone can be someone else copy without having the same DNA, parents, relatives, and childhood experiences is... objectively absurd.

Immigrants can't be a copy of you. Nor can other citizens for that matter.

You don't exit as an empty vessel , in a blank state, as a "soul" identical to others. You only exist as the unbroken chain of DNA that starts with your ancestors, in the specific cultural soup you grow in, with your specific experiences. Which btw is why the "veil of ignorance" is such a disastrous, anti human thought experiment.

I think we can agree that it's an impossible exercise, but what exactly about such an harmless attempt at forced empathy, that clearly holds no power over the sociopathic libertarians it would like to convince, makes you so mad?

Because it denies that human beings exist as a function of their DNA (ie of who their ancestors are) and their culture (not only present culture, but what ancestors did, like how they chose their sexual partners, how many children they had and so on), not in a vacuum.

And that so called "blankslatism" is one of the cardinal sins of leftism in general. A complete denial of biology. It's the reason why leftist power systems claim absurd things like "everyone has the same talents", and check outcomes to verify if someone is "privileged" or "exploited".

Blankslatism is a pillar of collectivist thought and a very strong rationale to justify some of the worst horrors of collectivism.

The veil of ignorance is one of the many ways by which leftist ideology manipulates minds to move them toward a denial of biological and cultural determinism, which is a necessary element to justify "revolution", of the state or culture or both, because if you think that the only reasons outcomes aren't the way you like it because of external elements, you can try to change those elements to achieve your societal outcomes.

Funny you write "harmless attempt at FORCED empathy", nothing forced is harmless.

Funny you screech at the sign of one offputting word. As you well understand, I wrote forced where I could have instead written something like conscious effort, because it is very clearly only a matter of one's own, voluntary, and harmless attempt at empathy where one might lack it.

I don't think it necessarily presupposes or denies any of those specific isms you mention, nor biology.

I do however very much think the complete strawman claim that "everyone has the same talents" serves as a fitting example of a (subconsciously) preconceived notion one might hold, that this exercise logically could cause one to doubt (possibly leading to an increased acceptance of the conceptual need for at least some redistribution*), if it indeed were to have the super power of imposing logic and empathy on those who lack them, that you apparently so fear it does.



*try not to get triggered too much by this one either