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07-20-2024 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
From what I've heard, he seems to allow free speech only when he agrees with it, and it's not critical of him personally. But I'm not on the tweeter myself, so I just know what I heard from rumours.
Do you think you could give a single example of him engaging in this type of behavior? I'll hold my breathe and wait.

As far as Elon's actual motives, I would say they are:

1. Support his companies
2. Send man to Mars

And not necessarily in that order. He is really into the whole Mars thing, for good or bad. And he views the current iteration of the Democrat party and their dedication to equity at the expense of technological progress as major impediments to that task.
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07-20-2024 , 09:36 PM
*Builds company better than NASA from scratch*
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07-20-2024 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Do you think you could give a single example of him engaging in this type of behavior? I'll hold my breathe and wait.
No, I can't. Keep holding.
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07-20-2024 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
*Builds company better than NASA from scratch*
Meh.
Scratch is a strong word .
Elon is a capable guy not doubt about it .
He did amazing .
But no one build anything like Elon by himself from nothing …



From 2015 article .

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...%20The%20Times.

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Elon Musk’s growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies
Fwiw ,the principle of 0% interest rates over a decade help created other companies that wouldn’t ever been able to succeed as well with more « normal interest rates » .
It’s hard to bankrupt with 0% interest rates .
Ask those 20% zombies corporations for over a decade ….
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07-20-2024 , 09:56 PM
So it was a pile of money that built SpaceX. I've heard that and other talking points echo'd on this board. Got it.

I've talked to plenty of people who discredit Elon. Still haven't seen anything material that backs up their points.
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07-20-2024 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
So it was a pile of money that built SpaceX. I've heard that and other talking points echo'd on this board. Got it.

I've talked to plenty of people who discredit Elon. Still haven't seen anything material that backs up their points.
Reread my post .
I never imply that .
Scratch is a crying word tho .
Doesn’t mean having help and benefited from a special economic era means he isn’t great …
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07-20-2024 , 10:03 PM
who gives a **** about elon or his individual posting? it's the policies.

it's allowing mis-information to purposely run wild in the name of "free speech", or worse, as HAHAHAHmickey puts it "political free speech", trying to further mask it from what it is...purposeful mis-information....and even going as far as to make it 'legit' in the form of selling account 'validations'.

i don't give a **** what kid he banned or anything about his life.
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07-20-2024 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
So it was a pile of money that built SpaceX. I've heard that and other talking points echo'd on this board. Got it.

I've talked to plenty of people who discredit Elon. Still haven't seen anything material that backs up their points.
This guy is a scientist and a youtuber. He has quite a lot of videos debunking/discrediting claims Musk has made going back years, with receipts (meaning if he claims something is physically impossible, he presents calculations why etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t...=dd&shelf_id=1

It's not a political channel, it's a science channel. The closest he gets to politics is talking about the amount of money Musk makes, or I guess he might have diverged a little into politics when the whole twitter saga was happening.
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07-20-2024 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I’m sure kamala took the VP job because: 1. She had presidential aspirations to begin with and it’s better than being a senator from california and 2. She assumed biden would be 1 term and that’s it with him backing her as the Democratic candidate

Suffice to say this didn’t go how she probably expected
Or Biden would be 2 terms but then give it away halfway through the 2nd term to her.
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07-20-2024 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
A conservative liberal is a rare species in a extinction phase .
In your country only, sadly. An extinction...
Guess that's what happens when you only have two parties, with one comically calling themselves democrats.

You seem to not even differentiate much between liberal and left. These two "things" are totally independent of each other. And left has a different meaning when talking about possible new immigrants, compared to things within the own country, for example.

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07-20-2024 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
This guy is a scientist and a youtuber. He has quite a lot of videos debunking/discrediting claims Musk has made going back years, with receipts (meaning if he claims something is physically impossible, he presents calculations why etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t...=dd&shelf_id=1

It's not a political channel, it's a science channel. The closest he gets to politics is talking about the amount of money Musk makes, or I guess he might have diverged a little into politics when the whole twitter saga was happening.
I don't imagine you have watched these videos, as they are pretty bad.

I picked out "The Myth of Elon Musk: Busted" (32 mins)....so far the narrator makes fun of Elon for a bunch of things without anything close to demonstrative. Such as the computer game he wrote as a 12-year-old being similar to Gallaga or other games.... huge fail, amirite? I am trying to keep an objective viewpoint....and will finish the video....if anything changes I will report back.

I'm seriously hoping to be proven wrong. But if the best you can come up with is that he inherited money from emerald mines (an unsubstantiated rumor that he denies), then he will have to remain a hero of mine.
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07-20-2024 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
I don't imagine you have watched these videos, as they are pretty bad.

I picked out "The Myth of Elon Musk: Busted" (32 mins)....so far the narrator makes fun of Elon for a bunch of things without anything close to demonstrative. Such as the computer game he wrote as a 12-year-old being similar to Gallaga or other games.... huge fail, amirite? I am trying to keep an objective viewpoint....and will finish the video....if anything changes I will report back.

I'm seriously hoping to be proven wrong. But if the best you can come up with is that he inherited money from emerald mines (an unsubstantiated rumor that he denies), then he will have to remain a hero of mine.
Yeah, he clearly dislikes Musk and goes to great lengths to make fun of him, no argument there. From memory, if you want him definitively debunk something, watch the hyperloop stuff. In any case, I'm not trying to sell you on the channel, I found it pretty good but YMMV.
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07-20-2024 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
who gives a **** about elon or his individual posting? it's the policies.

it's allowing mis-information to purposely run wild in the name of "free speech", or worse, as HAHAHAHmickey puts it "political free speech", trying to further mask it from what it is...purposeful mis-information....and even going as far as to make it 'legit' in the form of selling account 'validations'.

i don't give a **** what kid he banned or anything about his life.
Is your idea of free speech that anything untrue shouldn't be allowed?
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07-21-2024 , 12:18 AM
If it were not for LeBron James, Elon Musk would be my personal savior man. The Jesus Christ of tech.
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07-21-2024 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Is your idea of free speech that anything untrue shouldn't be allowed?
that is up to the website in question. on twitter, content moderation attempted to eliminate as much obvious misinformation as possible.

on 4chan, it is the feature, not a bug.

free speech has nothing to do with either. it is called corporate policies.

They are not owned or operated by the government where "free speech" granted by the constitution applies.

you have no "rights" on twitter, 2+2 or 4chan.
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07-21-2024 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
that is up to the website in question. on twitter, content moderation attempted to eliminate as much obvious misinformation as possible.

on 4chan, it is the feature, not a bug.

free speech has nothing to do with either. it is called corporate policies.

They are not owned or operated by the government where "free speech" granted by the constitution applies.

you have no "rights" on twitter, 2+2 or 4chan.
Someone once called me McScrubbinDeezNutz.

He had every right to say it.

Until he was banned.
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07-21-2024 , 12:25 AM
Actually lolled
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07-21-2024 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
If it were not for LeBron James, Elon Musk would be my personal savior man. The Jesus Christ of tech.
add elon to the aids goat thread title
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07-21-2024 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
add elon to the aids goat thread title
Your wish is my command.

Check SE Forum.
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07-21-2024 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Actually lolled
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07-21-2024 , 12:36 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!


Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go!
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07-21-2024 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Parasense
In your country only, sadly. An extinction...
Guess that's what happens when you only have two parties, with one comically calling themselves democrats.

You seem to not even differentiate much between liberal and left. These two "things" are totally independent of each other. And left has a different meaning when talking about possible new immigrants, compared to things within the own country, for example.
I wonder how u got that impression but
Thx for the tip.

Ps: I’m actually Canadian .
We got 5 parties .
Left, right, conservative, liberal, federalist, sovereignist,
We have a blast .
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07-21-2024 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Yeah, he clearly dislikes Musk and goes to great lengths to make fun of him, no argument there. From memory, if you want him definitively debunk something, watch the hyperloop stuff. In any case, I'm not trying to sell you on the channel, I found it pretty good but YMMV.
The hyperloop does appear to be a failure without question.

I did LOL at his Tesla critique. Elon intimated his cars appreciate in value. Then a bro who also owned a Rolls Royce complained that his Tesla depreciated.
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07-21-2024 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
that is up to the website in question. on twitter, content moderation attempted to eliminate as much obvious misinformation as possible.



on 4chan, it is the feature, not a bug.



free speech has nothing to do with either. it is called corporate policies.



They are not owned or operated by the government where "free speech" granted by the constitution applies.



you have no "rights" on twitter, 2+2 or 4chan.
+1
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07-21-2024 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I wonder how u got that impression but
Thx for the tip.

Ps: I’m actually Canadian .
We got 5 parties .
Left, right, conservative, liberal, federalist, sovereignist,
We have a blast .
Sometimes i connect a few of the dots (posts) in my mind, but the picture is still wrong...

PS: i'm german

We, again,... got more than 30 parties...
But only a new left party, a somewhat new conservative party, a terrible old one, and a shitshow of current goverment which consists of liberals who, by now, sold their souls to get into goverment with the braindead idealistic wokeism and ****tardry of the green party, which literally (photo) works hand in hand with Soros and American dems to ruin our country from within, same as the social-democrats.
The three parties in goverment would currently get less % combined than the old conservative party alone...
But the greedy old cons would love to get in power with the green party, next time, to finally destroy our country forever.

Thanks Merkel

Rest is all below 5%, tho, which means they get zero seats/influence.

Can i live of 2000$ a month in canada?
Doesnt matter if it's 2 hours from next big city.

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