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02-08-2024 , 07:07 PM

#2526

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Yeah Trump willingly took the documents and Biden willingly took the documents and shared them

The report says he willfully kept the documents

how many times biden got ask and refused under many pretense not to send back classified documents, even vs legal actions ?

thinking both is the same is hilarious disingenuous from anyone but you of course.

and the funny thing , what was trump saying and promise when he took office ?

u just cant find a president as unstable as this guy...

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02-08-2024 , 07:54 PM

#2527

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

You keep telling me stop with the whataboutism

Biden wasn’t charged because a jury would be sympathetic to an old man with no memory.

Biden shared these classified documents and took them as a senator not as Vp or President

The man is unfit to be president of the USA

If you can’t see this is damning for Biden …..

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02-08-2024 , 08:11 PM

#2528

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Originally Posted by lozen

Biden hasn't been a senator in 15 years. He didn't take these documents when he was a senator. I assume that he received most of them when he was VP. In any case, Luciom's point is valid. It shouldn't be that hard for high-level politicians to avoid retaining classified documents.

Biden didn't hinder the investigation. Trump did. Biden willingly returned the documents. Trump did not. But any way you slice it, this is not helpful for Biden, especially the comments in the special counsel's report about Biden's age and memory.

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02-08-2024 , 08:18 PM

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Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this

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02-08-2024 , 08:25 PM

#2530

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Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this

What in the world are you talking about. There is extensive evidence that Trump showed classified documents to reporters when they came down to Mar a Lago

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02-08-2024 , 08:33 PM

#2531

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The mishandling of classified information is extremely common. Being cooperative, open, and honest plays a massive part in how they view the transgression.

Source: I work at a company that has secret and top secret contracts

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02-08-2024 , 08:37 PM

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No ones proved that Trump did this

He was caught red-handed, lozen.

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02-08-2024 , 08:51 PM

#2533

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What in the world are you talking about. There is extensive evidence that Trump showed classified documents to reporters when they came down to Mar a Lago

Please provide links ?

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02-08-2024 , 08:52 PM

#2534

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Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this

Trump kept (some of?) them in a bathroom accessible to visitors

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02-08-2024 , 08:53 PM

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Trump kept (some of?) them in a bathroom accessible to visitors

Says who CNN ?

Biden intentionally shared classified and national secrets .

I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden

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02-08-2024 , 08:57 PM

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Says who CNN ?

Biden intentionally shared classified and national secrets .

I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden

The indictment says that

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02-08-2024 , 08:58 PM

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There are actually photos

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02-08-2024 , 09:15 PM

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Please provide links ?

Are you seriously unaware of this. It was all over the indictment. There is audio. He apparently was talking to the writer and publisher of a memoir for Mark Meadows as well as two other staffers w/o security clearance.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/au...legal-troubles

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02-08-2024 , 09:57 PM

#2539

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There are actually photos

Looks tidier than the garage . I’m not sure how many hookers and drug dealers were in the bathroom compared to the Biden house

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02-08-2024 , 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

You keep telling me stop with the whataboutism

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I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden

LOL holy **** dude, you're the one who introduced the subject by comparing the two:

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I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump

When you bring up a subject comparing Biden and Trump, maybe you should expect some replies that compare Biden and Trump?

Is this some kind of weird trolling routine, or are you just unable to remember your posts 4.5 hours later?

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02-08-2024 , 10:33 PM

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I think lozen is right that Biden got an unjustifiably soft treatment given trump is indicted for similar actions.

I think the comparison is kinda reasonable and I don't think you need to be a maga trumpist to see similarities in the two cases, and asymmetrical treatment by justice

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02-08-2024 , 10:42 PM

#2542

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I haven't read a lot about it so I couldn't say whether or not they went soft on Biden, but...

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Originally Posted by coordi

The mishandling of classified information is extremely common. Being cooperative, open, and honest plays a massive part in how they view the transgression.

This, obviously. It's a pretty big and important difference, IMO. Far too big a difference for a simple offhand "I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump".

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02-08-2024 , 11:33 PM

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I'd like to see the comparison of volume too. It looks like Trump had literal boxes full of documents where they made it sound like Biden had a few specific documents that were meaningful to him.

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02-09-2024 , 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jmill

spooner is heavily invested in the Michelle Obama dem nominee narrative

11/21/23

1/16/24

you are correct sir. I do have some Newsome to hedge and win scraps in case though.

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02-09-2024 , 03:39 AM

#2545

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Originally Posted by Rococo

Are you under the impression that Michelle Obama is running for president?

Yes. Biden is not running.

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02-09-2024 , 11:21 AM

#2546

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Originally Posted by spooner90

Yes. Biden is not running.

Let's assume you are correct. That means Michelle Obama is running?

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02-09-2024 , 12:23 PM

#2547

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Originally Posted by Rococo

Let's assume you are correct. That means Michelle Obama is running?

Mainly have funds on her to run yes, that's where odds are based on my analysis. And wagered a smaller amount on Newsome incase.

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02-09-2024 , 12:25 PM

#2548

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Can I get in on this action?

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02-09-2024 , 12:28 PM

#2549

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Mainly have funds on her to run yes, that's where odds are based on my analysis. And wagered a smaller amount on Newsome incase.

I know that you have money on her to be the nominee, and I assume you have your reasons. I'm asking what those reasons are.

One possible reason could be that she has the best chance of beating Trump if Biden drops out.

That might be true, but I am 99.9% certain that people she trusts have made that case to her more than once. And I see no evidence that she is even tempted. Not everyone wants to be POTUS.

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02-09-2024 , 10:22 PM

#2550

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I think I'm back off voting for Biden.

While it's inconceivable to the limo lib/msnbc mind, I sincerely do find blowing up hospitals and deliberately slaughtering civilians to be intolerable.

I understand using tax money to buy bombs to drop on children is good for the stock market, but I dislike it anyway. Can't vote for someone this blood thirsty.

While he made some empty gestures on improving life for the non-rich, none really panned out.

Congrats to whatever 3rd party makes the ballot in my state.

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