Its my first time cashing out money in more than 2 years and now im trying to cash out with ecopayz and what kind of site is tigergaming?

They dont send an email to confirm my cash out and dont even process it. Very unprofessional way to deal with the money of customers.

What are my options here ?

ecopayz is a load of garbage.

On the BOL controversy.

I mean it is obv shady, but there are some devils advocate things.

a) was it a mistake by the dealer?

b) maybe it could not matter because decks are shuffled

In the 60k+ hands of PLO that ive played in the micros on the sites, I don't believe the site is rigged, but thats still is not a big enough sample size.

I have no complaints with Chico network so far other than some laggy connections to their site.

The black jack dealer was definitely cheating. Unfortunately Morgenstern is mentally challenged and could not communicate to BOL what had happened. Good thing there was the video.

You can also see the dealer rubbing the corner of the card to see what the number was before he flipped it.

And yet, it's only ever been caught once.

That video obviously doesn't look good (terrible, more like it), but I'd like to see another example or two before I'm convinced of a nefarious scheme.

Probably a better place to discuss it:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ating-1654421/

Can i do a one time 5k cash out a week with ecopayz or i can only do 5*1000 so its more time consuming and more importantly, more costly in fees 50usd instead of 10usd?

Can i cash out with ecopayzs and cash out with another method at the same time ?

have 20k in the account and want to cash out 10 what would be my best option i am canadian and dont have access to skrill or neteller

thanks

Bitcoin is the best cashout/deposit option by a fair margin

As a Betonline player, I am glad I saw the black jack cheater. I would never had seen it in the forum the spinner recommended. The discussion belongs here.

how are the bitcoin withdrawls on Betonline/Tiger

I upload with bitcoin it was fast, hoping withdrawl is fast as well.

I did bitcoins on ACR network and it took 3 days =/

There's nothing accidental, coincidental, or natural about what that dealer did. If you watch closely, you'll see that he attempts to flick the card twice with the first attempt being unsuccessful. I can't think of a plausible explanation that BOL could give. All I know is, where there's smoke, there's fire.

Wow. I didn't actually think you were a shill until this.

Wait, what?

Yeah, I agree that the video looks terrible for BOL but am not convinced it's a site-wide scheme until I see more than one hand, so I must be a shill. And that makes a lot of sense, since I sell advertising for 2+2, and BOL isn't an advertiser, so of course I'd want to promote them ahead of sites that are advertising with us...oh, wait...

is it normal that when i cash out with ecopayz on tigergaming, after 24 hours i didnt receive email of confirmation and the money still appear in my account ?

yes i deposited with ecopayz before cashing out

edit: i guess their 24 hours timeframe on their website is not realistic?

Ha! They may not be a sponsor (are they?) But they're unarguably your bread and butter.

That fact aside, you're the one always crowing about hard evidence (from a nefarious company thought to be run by gangsters, who would surely do their best to cover their asses.)

And now we've got some hard evidence and your logical response is "eh, I'd like to see them cheat a few more times!"

Gimme a break dude.

Right, as I said, they're not.

No. Do you think I'm lying?

How is a site that doesn't advertise with us our bread and butter? They're competing against our advertisers.

Now, how about you argue against my point, rather than trying to make this something personal - even though I've already shown you that I'd have no ulterior motive to "defend" them, motive doesn't really change the point I'm making anyway.

As I said, the video looks terrible for them. But if the site itself is behind some kind of systemic BJ cheating scheme involving dealing seconds, why is there only the one video? I've only heard one plausible explanation - that the site does this on a regular basis, but removes any hands where they've cheated, and missed this one. The only other one I can come up with is that they just decided to start cheating, and got caught right out of the chute. But it's also possible that the dealer has done this on his own for some reason, or it could have been a mistake.

So while I would agree that it's possible this shows BOL is cheating at online BJ, it certainly isn't the only possibility, and I don't even know that it's the most likely one. You mention me "always crowing about hard evidence" - one aspect of hard evidence of cheating is the sample size. Just like a few bad beats isn't going to convince me a site is rigged, a single hand that appears to be showing a second being dealt doesn't leave me certain of the reason it happened.

The guy posted two new videos, and says he was offered 250k to pull the video, and also getting death threats to him and his daughter from the company now. So it sounds like it's getting serious

That's the most annoying thing overlooked by people not even humoring the idea that this site might be rigged. Obviously they would go to great lengths to prevent people knowing or suspecting they're set up to lose more often. They have basically unlimited resources and again, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS BOL.

That being said, I don't know if I believe they're sending him death threats. Idono who he is, but he would probably have just taken the money.

Why would he take 250k? He said he had 6 million in the bank. He even has a video where he made 210k in one night at the casinos. He had it all over the table. He doesn't need their money. If this was anyone's else's situation, they would take the money. This guy has been in prison for 7 years, robbing 27 banks. He doesn't care, and isn't a soft person. Seen peoples faces burned off with boiling oil. He doesn't give af.

Bigchief you don't know how people get down in Central America. They're ruthless. It's basically like elchapo ordering a hit from Mexico.

Also, a guy on twitter said BOL offered him to stream BJ for 250/hr for 8 months a month via twitch. He declined because he said it was a scam to get people to join.

yeah right ... he is so rich, he desperately tries to sell his 101 BJ BS advice and fangear just for the lolz

btw i don't know what's more laughable, believing this guy is super rich or bobo is a shill

No complaints? Are you unaware of the bots that they do nothing about sucking up tons of money multitabling and playing godlike amounts of hands per day/week/month. That's money real players are losing out on.

i am playing at tigergaming...what is the best option to withdrwal?? i would like to request a 10 000 usd withdrawl

-Yea hes got 6mil in the bank
-All counters get banned from every casino around the world eventually, hardly a profession
-The people who play on twitch and recieve money from bol get the money based on people using their link to deposit, same as affiliates. Sodapoppin has commented multiple times even when he gets a couple k a week deposited into his account he has to play with it and can't just cash it out so it's even worse then an affiliate deal. Of all that have streamed bol blackjack on twitch he is far and away the biggest user base yet his deal is dog****?
- there are tons of nonames who try to stream on twitch/YouTube to get famous or just for fun. All of them having recorded evidence of their play yet we are to assume that bol knows every player who is recording so they stop cheating on those tables?
- where is the evidence to show systematic cheating taking place? Still not even a 2nd instance found with 1000 of hours of vods available

can anyone feedback on Bitcoin withdrawl

Yes its the best and only option to use on BOL . Most recent withdrawl for me was last week it took 24 hours to hit my wallet so super fast .

ty ty, yeah I uploaded VIA bitcoin(i used to play on TG, but I really hated the transactions fees they have) I have yet to withdraw, hoping to in a few weeks before I hit the casino.

Same network, different skin

But I am wondering. Cant people abused their 100% deposit thing with bitcoin. I keep creating new account on different IPs?