Hi, I would like to share a post I sent on WPN forum (not sure if it will be published there).

Hi, here is the list of all WPN Jackpot bots. They all have identical stats, bet sizing, timings, hand selection and everything . They play always just jackpots. Investigate one and you have them all, pretty simple. I hope they all will be gone and not replaced by other nicknames like it happened in past. For a regular it is quite easy to detect the bot, we can play them, but I want all the recreationals who read this to know who the bots are and that they are not playing in fair environment. So me and all other regulars hope that you will shut down these bots and not replace them by others. That would be awesome and really would show how much you care about game integrity. Plus there are some "players" clearly cheating with real time assistance, they all play same style, have same stats and everything (different than bots though). Those players are Paulitrovich, Westchester, Whoopensocker, Gerda_kitty, EmilayKnows and NickTheKick. I suggest to look into it as well.

Thank you.

List of bots:
Satyr1con
Midnightbeggar
GoodSamaritan
Cndlelight
MerryDancers
Blakaf
BeataVirgo116
Faerie
Neuromancr911
Reliquary613
Snufkin25
Mutant143
Cottoneyejoey
MarCEsCEns
Rumblehorn
Awkward2
Knotweed8
Drownyoucare
Bluishpunk
WernerVonCroy
Proffsmirk
Shardik7
Patanec
LincolnSixEcho
An9ler
Gayver
Klebag
Tangerine22
Neron

I hope something will finally change, I have been playing those bots for 16 months already, me and other regulars have sent WPN all the details, screenshots of bot's stats and nothing has happened so far. Maybe publishing this will finally help.

Hey everyone, I am a regular SpinNGo (Jackpot) player in WPN as well,
Thank you for stepping up for this, I like to add some more technical information to your statement,

These players which we believe they are definitely BOTs are very easy to detect, for example for me when I see a player usually from Russia, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Brazil which have similar timing to previous BOTs and have 75%+ ISO jam HU less than 8bb, I immediately tag it as BOT.

I usually saw complex discussion and stats in other posts for proving some cheating going on in their environment but here I am going to give you some simple key points to prove our points,

1. All of these players have similar timings

2. All of them have semi similar stats but Identical stats in key statistics like HU ISO jamming 75%-85% less than 8bb

3. They never change their lines against different players (nit and lose players) generally they do same ISO or call a jam against a player with 90% VPIP HU or 20% VPIP with same combo which regular players know this is evidence enough,

4. They never notice a player sitting out at table and still they play with same stats,

4. There is a deal option in WPN in higher multipliers (100x+) which it gives you 180 seconds to decide accepting deal, without deal the prize pool is like this (1st 75%, 2nd 15% and 3rd 10%) but with deal the prize pool is like this (1st 40%, 2nd 30% and 3rd 30%), first of all every single one of these players reject deals and you can check them at Sharkscope but the key point is every regs who were at their tables report they timed out that 180 seconds and automatically deal got rejected which is due to a simple fact that they are BOTs and they can't accept or denying deals with clicking buttons.

5. There is a leaderboard called "SitnCrush" at WPN which is exclusive for SNG and Spins players, other than that regular money there is a 95$ ticket for high numbers of players rank at the SnC LB, WPN automatically register players qualified for that ticket in the Sunday tournament called "Beast & SnC" every single one of these players are registered at that tournament but they sat out and get busted after their blinds drop to 0, and this is due to same simple fact that they are Spin BOTs and they can't recognize MTTs to act on it.


The point is we tried to inform WPN about BOTs numerous times through their support, we provide all the stats and evidence for them, but they refuse to act and they usually stop answering after a few automatic replies, they always talk about the game integrity and trust but they ignore simple facts and evidence that somehow we started to think maybe these BOTs are running by WPN itself to make more traffic or other reasons, believe me guys if you would be a regular spin player and play at WPN you would recognize them very fast and it's really hard to believe that WPN can't recognize them!

I just wanted to prove our point without showing complex stats for the sake of simplicity and not repelling recreational viewers but we can provide all the stats if it would be needed.

Any REGs and recreational players who were at my tables know that I constantly warn other players if there was a BOT in our table. I am asking every REGs and recreational WPN players who has same experience with these players to join and post reply here to raise awareness about this unfair situation.

I will explain about RTAs in following post.

About Real time GTO assistance cheaters (RTAs),

There is a group of Belarusian players:
whoopensocker, Westchester, Paulitrovic, Gerda_kitty

These 4 players previously exposed cheating in HUSNG with RTA tool in this forum:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ealed-1777912/

As the result of that whistleblowing, WPN closed their HUSNG games last year BUT THEY DIDN'T BAN INVOLVED PLAYERS! after a while these players migrate to Spins because Spins is the closest game to HUSNG and now they've been scamming Spins for like a year.
You can find all the technical information about their cheating at HUSNGs provided by HU REGs at the time in the mentioned forum, Beside all the identical stats, I am going to add just a point.

At WPN there are 2$, 5$, 10$, 15$, 25$, 40$ and 50$ spin pools, these players play at 50s, 40s, 25s and 15s , They share these pools together, they never play with each others, they usually switch pools with each others to gain enough points for SnC leaderboard, they usually gather similar number of points and they are always at the top of leaderboard.

There are another RTA team who are from Ukraine :
Emilayknows, NickTheKick

Same thing with Belarusians, Identical stats and sharing lobby.

Also there is another player "G20LLD" who is included to the mentioned forum as a previous HUSNG RTAs who is playing at Spins now.

These players are harder players to deal which they hurt our EV significantly. I analyzed their stats with InstaGTO Analyzing Tools, and as expected they have the least EV difference possible to GTO less than 0.5 in every positions, Those who understand GTO and study it know that having EV difference less than 0.5 is a thing that it's not close to capability of human mind specially in 15 to 50 stakes!!!

seems legit!!! honestly as a south american player i think brazilian players are super soft (NOT bots)... but nothing is softer than American players... they have lots of fish with big money.... and LOADS of bad regs that think they are good and will keep losing money for years that blame the RNG for their bad plays...

i m also playing this jackpots on ACR for the last 6 months, i used to play in pokerstars spin and gos up to 30s and heads up up to 60s for the last 8 years and i never found an enviroment with regs mixing their tendencies so hard and making your life so hard in 15s and 25s games as they do in ACR, except the example with the preflop iso spots that mentioned and their simillar perfect stats another strange thing is that they use crazy lines on rivers like gto does in some cases but this is not what a single reg do cause it doesnt make sense to try it if you are not sure you have perfect tendencies preflop flop and turn firstly cause it can cost you much ev if you dont do it perfectly balanced and also its a more high variance strategy, all real person regs are cautious to try these lines and most of them take the safe path and dont try this plays escpecially when you are someone who multi tabling like crazy as these guys do which makes it even more difficult to make this plays work with the balance they need and lets be honest we talk about 15 dollar regs who suddenly looks like poker gods with their skill to multi table and alongside use the perfect lines, the big picture is that these guys as mentioned in other treads and as notsofastbro and uloseanyway told are close to gto but the details is making this so obvious that something is going wrong, how does all of them not attack to sit outs? ,how are you not making a deal to a 100x after 180sec of thought, how you dont play the 95$ ticket from the leaderboard which is so profitable while is the same time you are a beast who plays all day and you get the high leadeboard every week without a single stop, how you never sit out for time reasons and if you sit out for internet reason you are never back? the situation its so obviousi in my eyes and hope ACR finally do some research to find out if these guys are RTAS or BOTS

Its not just Jackpots. I cannot prove it but NL50 blitz seems to be full of bots.

(If I am wrong my bad)

I just dabbled a bit in NL50 on blitz and really like it.

My post has been actually published on WPN forum, but after some time I got the answer (see below). They hid the list of bots in my original post. Yet they kept the other 6 cheating players visible - guess why? 😃


"List of bots:
Edit by Moderator: The list of suspected accounts has been forwarded to our game integrity team for further evaluation.
We appreciate your report, yet this forum is meant to engage in meaningful discussions with other community members, it`s up to WPN game integrity team to evaluate any account and deemed as in violation of our Game Integrity Policies. For further reference, the right channel to submit your report is directly to: GameIntegrity@WinningPokerNetwork.com where our integrity specialist will evaluate them which you should always include as much information as possible that raise your suspicions."

Looks like they are annoyed about the list of BOTs, It's good we can still publish them here

I would like to update the list with following accounts, Please note that usually it's their procedure after several months BOTs stop playing and get replaced by new ones probably because they want to avoid gathering data against them otherwise it doesn't make sense at all, Those who knows about RakeBack system at WPN understand that, You can basically release significant RB by reaching certain point of VIP levels, so it's obvious if you give up playing before you reach that VIP level you would lose significant amount of RB, and come on guys, think about it, Spins is the game of RB, how you can give up your optimal RB if you are a regular player for several months?!!!

pocketprofit
Pion
Saviour97
caterpilar
Haleyon
Malboroboro

Little update:

Me:
Thank you for your answer and deleting the list of bots. Me and other regulars have sent you all the details in past with detailed statistics and all the proofs. To the very email you mentioned. All we got was some automatic answers that you will investigate everything. Nothing has changed

WPN:
After a report is submitted every account is carefully and deeply evaluated, if a violation of our security and game integrity is confirmed we'll take the necessary actions including potential compensations to affected players: https://winningpokernetwork.com/banned-accounts/

As per the list of suspected players you initially shared was removed as this is a public forum, discussing the integrity of each player should be backed with strong evidence, and please let us be clear that it`s up to WPN game integrity team to deemed any account in violation of our security and game integrity policies.

Me:
Ok, I understand. On one hand list of bots is not ok to be posted here, yet you did not delete those other cheating players I mentioned from my post. I guess that explains everything.

WPN needs to make all these players film their sessions with cameras on tripods.

I can't believe they still let the belorussian group play after what they did at the HUSNGs. I check the WPN banned list every few months and sometimes these guys even get a refund from other cheaters..This is just terrible

Dont play against any of these players. Avoid tables and zoom pools with Russian players.

They proved that they don't want to do anything about them for some reasons, Even they deleted that list from their forum, So no one can see those accounts!!

https://winningpokernetwork.com/foru...c285c36c6c5854

You can also check this forum to see how they react when we try to inform them and other WPN players!

https://winningpokernetwork.com/foru...b9d5b0eb246406

Yes I agree it is actually unbelievable, and hard to believe that those players don't have anything related to WPN itself! You can check SnC leaderboard and see how all of them are always at the top of the leaderboard every week!

https://rakerace.winningpokernetwork...eaderboard/ACR

It's not actually possible to avoid them my friend unless you quit playing spins at WPN!!!

Another confirmed bots - TeQiLkaa and Samuman.
And just the correction: Malboroboro is not a bot.

If Russian players keep registering for your games over and over again, refuse to play them indefinitely. Play live poker, play on other sites, play cash games. Dont give Russian players any action ever. Let them play each other.

Another two new confirmed bots at 50s:

Devotionalist

morhinomia

Klebag and Bocko 100% same player botting or something.

love all the evidence that these single digit post users are posting to back up their accusations of "confirmed bots"

Agreed. Saying "confirmed" with zero proof and, I assume, just your hunch, makes you look like your opinion shouldn't be trusted.

"Here's a couple accounts who might be bots also. Here is why I suspect them..."

I can't speak for others, but my list of bots is not based on some "feeling". I have been playing poker since 2009 and never had the urge to write anything about sites being rigged etc., that's why I never wrote to 2+2 before. It's only because I have provided WPN all the proofs multiple times (including all my HUD sample on them, key hands...) and they did nothing, if they did, the bots would be long gone.
My list of bots is evidence-based. I am not saying someone is a bot because he "acts fast, doesn't write to chat, plays close to GTO etc.". But obviusly I use detailed HUD and I have a very big sample on those "players". I am not gonna share any detailed info about their playing style, but here are some major factors that convince me someone is a bot:

- Their time to act is exactly the same in certain spots
- They have static bet sizing in certain spots
- Identical stats pre and postflop
- Hand selection in certain spots
- In past they were unable to sit back if they went sit out for the rest of the tournament
- they always play just jackpot games, never play anything else
- they play same stakes (for example mixing 10$ and 15$ games and nothing else) - come on, guys, they play very solid, which real poker player would get stuck on those limits every day and never play any higher stake or anything else?
- they never play or unregister the tournament we get a bonus ticket to every week (meaning they play it as sitting out)
- they have static playing hours
- they don't distinguish between different types of opponents and play exactly the same vs anyone
- they don't adapt to your game heads-up - you can do some crazy **** vs them all the time and while a real player would see that and play back, they never do

All those bots are the same, it is one program. That's why it is so easy for me to recognize it. If you guys have been playing poker for a long time, believe me, you would be able to spot it very easily.

Stop playing on WPN. It's the only way they might get serious about bots. If you can't afford not to play there, accept bots as a fact of life.

Or perhaps it's their goal to make all winning players leave. �� I am not gonna stop playing there, but that doesn't mean I will not try to do something about the bots, if nothing else, I just wanna raise awareness. With hopes something will finally change. It just bothers me how they claim all the **** about game integrity, it is in direct contrast with the reality.