Lol @ thinking Stars is coming back into the US market. For one, there is no federal legislation, at all, so if they somehow manage it, they will be in the state of NJ. BFD.

So when delta goes bankrupt you expect to be compensated for your sky miles?

if another company bails them out and then promises to do so, absolutely.

Did they promise to reimburse points? I only remember it being the cash.

I don't remember them promising to do that...

They promised that Medals had already been converted to points.

ROW players did get their points. Where their medals converted to points?

Ya, they even promised that the had ALREADY DONE IT.

they also promised us account balances were segregated and that our balances were safe and secure. we all see how that turned...

fact is, medals are gone, points are there but are worthless in all practicality, and old ftp and everything that went with it is officially dead several months ago. time to move on.

The difference is, the segregated account and your money is safe and secure issues were prior to the "new FTP".

the "new FTP" came in here and announced that medals had already been converted to points. Then when US players responded in that same thread with questions, they were all ignored.

Medals were converted to points for ROW players i'm pretty sure.

Then they just decide not to do it and don't announce anything about it? what is the deal with that?

The medals aren't worthless but have no value at the moment for us players since we can't use points unless poker is regulated in the US or we move. FTP said they were worth i believe 50 points a medal so why not convert them?

pretty sure it was old ftp that said medals were converted maybe Stars made the mistake of believing them. either way its done, medals are gone and points are worthless. doj has your cash and FTP has nothing to do with the US at all in any way shape or form. youre whining about a company not giving u a few worthless points when they just gave up 330M to pay back players their cash balances. like seriously why do you want points? its never coming back, move on.

it was new FTP. scroll down to post #5.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...012-a-1232335/

But if they converted them for ROW players than why not for US players, especially considering that they are "worthless". Stars is in the process of buying an AC casino and I guess it will be finalized if Gov Christie signs the legislation that just passed. NJ players could be playing on PS in 2013, not on PS.com but PS.nj

I understand the current reality and am capable of moving on while at the same time asking for what I and many others believe is fair. The value of my worthless points is 4 digits to the left of the decimal point. As I am not far from NJ it seems there is a likelyhood that I could be accessing my points "soon".

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Have you guys looked here?

Looks like they should have already been converted.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/faq/gen...landing-link-2

Your anger should be directed at the previous owners of FTP, not Stars.

what a circus.

this is still listed on the US player FAQ on their website?

It's a joke. They should do the right thing.

And yes, of course it's great that Pstars put up the money to make players "whole". That obviously goes without saying. But ignoring medals isn't making players whole. And they didn't do it b/c they wanted to give money away to charity. They see future potential customers in US players.

Yeah, I was pretty confused when I first logged in and saw my FTP points balance and it was about 700k short, since FTP said they had converted medals already. I had been in iron man for 50+ months and was stockpiling medals to one day convert them to points. If they are letting us keep points in our account, it only makes sense to convert the medals.

actually the section in the FAQ that refers to ironman medals is for ROW players (u can see multiple references to the date jun 29th [which is applicable only to ROW] thru out the "Changes to Account Balance" section)

the section dealing specifically with US players is the first 3 bullet points

regardless, it seems only fair that they honor ironman medals for US players if it was done for ROW

If Poker Stars ever becomes licensed anywhere here in the USA, a class action lawsuit wouldn't be that hard to create. Let a court or arbitrator figure it out. Something is better then nothing. Poker Stars wants a clean bill of health to open shop here. Any bad press will not help them if ipoker goes state by state. Cash, money, points, medals, its all about the same thing. Value.

I am pretty confused about what exactly was supposed to happen with FTP Iron Man medals, but I only know that my friends were not credited with anything for their value. FTP claimed to have converted them into FTP points but this has since turned out to be a lie.

So my question for you is whether that is just the case for my two roommates who are American but living abroad or is that the case for all FTP ROW customers? It seems odd that FTP would honor FTP points for both ROW players and any Americans that decided to go abroad to claim them but that they would just steal the value of Iron Man medals which is pretty much the same idea as FTP points--rewards that had a cash value. In fact, they had even more of a direct cash value. To build on the strangeness of the situation, both my friends are not able to get any response from FTP beyond 'get over it, it is case closed' and then utter silence.

What is going on here? Is this really as dirty as it seems?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...p-pts-1280945/

ty. mods can move/delete

Can someone clarify this for me. Were medals converted for ROW players and just stolen for Americans (regardless of whether they are ROW now) or did ROW get their medals stolen as well? There can't have been THAT much monetary value in Iron Man medals, why the **** do they have to be so goddamn scummy and steal that money?

I'm pretty positive iron man medals were converted for ROW. It was actually announced that they ALREADY had been converted for US players too but that was a lie.

Why announce it has been already done for US players and then not do it and ignore all requests about it? i have no idea

maybe FTP or Shyam can tell us what the hell is going on.

They are lying bastards, thats pretty much it unfortunately

confirmed, medals were converted for ROW