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12-03-2015 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
hey pk007za, whats new in todays update?
Nothing new Megloooo, this will be the first place if I hear anything I'm allowed to make public.

Have you guys tried the android client yet - looking for feedback.
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12-03-2015 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pk007za
Nothing new Megloooo, this will be the first place if I hear anything I'm allowed to make public.

Have you guys tried the android client yet - looking for feedback.
I think if you get an iPhone/ iPad client you will get a lot more people using that.
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12-04-2015 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaHiLowKid
I think if you get an iPhone/ iPad client you will get a lot more people using that.
Its already in the pipeline, expected mid 2016.
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12-08-2015 , 12:10 PM
FF been down for anyone else today? tried to open 3 times and no luck.
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12-08-2015 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
FF been down for anyone else today? tried to open 3 times and no luck.
Hey Megaloo, no everything is up and running - feel free to PM me to assist with connection issues.
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12-11-2015 , 06:27 AM
I have officially stopped playing on fullflush i find it completely useless,, i have over 25k dollars stuck on there that they refuse to pay. Once i made 9k dollars in pending withdrawls i all of a sudden stopped getting payments.... I also started seeing some really shady activity like players that came out of no where that totally wooped my ass, that i couldnt beat no matter what, evertime i bet on a river where i had nothing they minraised me, and these are just no namers playing 400 and 600 nl and sometimes 5-10, they dont even playl ike professionals but they DONT LOSE and they are sitting on enough tables to have loaded over 5k personally i think its people that work for FF and they upgraded the software last month and put a super user ability, firstly cuz no one was playing, second to clean out players that were winning too much, namely me and some others. I am now actively looking for a stake on another site. Having over 25k most of which I worked my ass off for months winning, I would really apreciate a stake on bovada or acr or betonline, im a 10 year pro and can beat stakes from 100-1k, my main games are nl and plo and i can even beat limit, i also do very well at tournaments. I have studied the game to beat almost all games except for studd and stuff like that.
Please pm if u can help out. I can guarantee over 5k a month at 200nl and I used to play on merge and had some 50k months at 3-6, I win over 8bb/100 consistently over 1 million hands. Most of my hand histories are on other computers around the planet but i could prolly run them down if i needed to. I can atleast show withdrawl histories from FF and some graphs, i just nuked my hard drive so lost alot of them, i can also show graphs on merge over 200k hands winning over 200k at 2-4 and 3-6.

i advice all players to stop playing on FF until they start making weekly payouts to everyone who is owed money. I have other friends who have over 20k stuck on there to and htey have given up...

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Originally Posted by Hondinpot
I have had the exact same experience in 1/2 PLO with 2a2me. I didnt win a single showdown above $25. He would either check fold when i had a hand or lead/raise me out of pots where i had nothing or marginal hands and when i made a big bluff he called me down on a semi hand like third flush on a paird board. I have even told some friends to rail while i was playing because it was super strange. And they have seen it as well. I have never felt this outmatched HU either. I lost around 1k to him at 1/2.

Im sure every1 here that plays PLO on equity knows me and know im a winning reg. I will basically play any1 HU and think that im a good HU player. I have played this guy for about 1,5- 2 hours and got absolutely crushed by him.

So I contacted claims department of FFP and explained the entire situation to them. I have included a stretch of hands i have played with him at 1/2 and explained the exact same things every1 else here is claiming. I said to them that i am 100% sure that he is a cheater: heres my first reaction on my mail:



2 days after this happened another " unknown" player sat down with me at 1/2 PLO and did the exact same thing. His name is "DrWho". Exact same story, couldnt win a big pot and played "perfectly". I mailed support again and said that this is another cheater. Soon after i send that second mail i got a reply on both mails (both the same standard reply):




After receiving those 2 mails i replied to them with the following:



This was last Tuesday and i havent gotten a reaction anymore. I thought i was the only one experiencing this and my accusations would be futile. Now the next step: what can we do about it? If any1 has an idea, u can PM me here or reply in the post, ill try to read it daily.


Regards,

Hondinpot
i plaued him over a month ago in 400 nl , he absolutely beat the **** out of me, i didnt win one pot over 20 dollars against him, anytime i floppped well he folded, any draw i missed he pushed all in when i bet or checked, and everytime he had very slim equity against me like i have top pair good kicker and he has a better one he would push all in and beat me, i am absolutely positive he is a super user, and there were other ones like jamesbond007, and the funny thing is, they dont play anymore! its like they dont want to be susrpocus so they keep changing the names of the players, now theres a few other players playing 20-40 that came out of no where and they seem to know what cards are going to fly out cuz i watch them push all in with q 3 and things like hat and beat AK And JJ by out flopping them all in for like 4k dollars, full flush is a shady ****ing site, and unless they pay the money that i had qued up for like 3 months i would never ever play them and im going to be posting about them EVERYWHERE. when people make 20k+ on a site and u send them only like 2k dollars in 2 months then stop paying them something is way off....

the reason u cant prove a2e2 was cheating is because he doesnt play anymore, it could look like just very good variance for him, and FF is smart enough to know it, i gurantee he could see our cards, luckioly i only lost a like 1500 to him before i quit, if i had continued to play him he would have taken me to the claeners, not that it matters they dont pay anyway! the more u win the less u win with FF, stay AWAY

who other regulars are with me to boycott FF until they pay all pending payments???lets take aaway there inccome, without regulars, they wont last another week no tables will run long enough

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Originally Posted by pk007za
There is no such thing as a "Superuser" its technically impossible with the coding/methodology of the system. If anyone would like to contact me on PM to discuss that further, please do so.

If you do suspect players of being anything but honest on the site, I would implore you to contact support and lodge a ticket/case to get an investigation going.

Pk
its absolutely NOT IMPOSSIBLE, cerueus poker ultimatebet had one, therefore any site can have one, u guys use some old ass software no one ielse has, and for u to say its impossible makes me think moreso u guys are cheating, not only do u not pay players, but u cheat them out of there money too. freaking scum bags, i used to like FF now im a hater. once u lose me u lose most everyone cuz it takes alot to lose my confidence

also asking a site to investigate itself is ludacrous, your losing your entire player base of regulars, u guys are freaking screwed.

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Originally Posted by Megloooo
Yeh I found jamesbond007 suspicious too and the guys turning up and playing 20/40 is laughable considering the action at higher than 100nl is pathetic.

It's got to the point now where unfortunately I am suspicious of everyone who sits apart from a few old faces.

that right there is proof.. theres no way that guy has any business playing 20-40 unless hes a super user hes one of 2 players i think are super users and i dint even know he was playing 20-40, that right there is very telling, there should be a sticky imploring everyone not to play there, im currently in talks with a web designera nd going to do a Fullflushisascam.com sort of site so that no one deposits money on that site, ive had it with all the shadiness

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Originally Posted by Hondinpot
I have had the exact same experience in 1/2 PLO with 2a2me. I didnt win a single showdown above $25. He would either check fold when i had a hand or lead/raise me out of pots where i had nothing or marginal hands and when i made a big bluff he called me down on a semi hand like third flush on a paird board. I have even told some friends to rail while i was playing because it was super strange. And they have seen it as well. I have never felt this outmatched HU either. I lost around 1k to him at 1/2.

Im sure every1 here that plays PLO on equity knows me and know im a winning reg. I will basically play any1 HU and think that im a good HU player. I have played this guy for about 1,5- 2 hours and got absolutely crushed by him.

So I contacted claims department of FFP and explained the entire situation to them. I have included a stretch of hands i have played with him at 1/2 and explained the exact same things every1 else here is claiming. I said to them that i am 100% sure that he is a cheater: heres my first reaction on my mail:



2 days after this happened another " unknown" player sat down with me at 1/2 PLO and did the exact same thing. His name is "DrWho". Exact same story, couldnt win a big pot and played "perfectly". I mailed support again and said that this is another cheater. Soon after i send that second mail i got a reply on both mails (both the same standard reply):




After receiving those 2 mails i replied to them with the following:



This was last Tuesday and i havent gotten a reaction anymore. I thought i was the only one experiencing this and my accusations would be futile. Now the next step: what can we do about it? If any1 has an idea, u can PM me here or reply in the post, ill try to read it daily.


Regards,

Hondinpot

drwho raped me too dude, hes another one .. ****ing cheats im telling u... all the same suspucous people to all of us is no coincie

its so telling the 3 or 4 players i thought theres no way these players arent cheating,... lots of other people are mentioning there names before me ..... how is this site still operating!!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by pk007za
I'm going to re-iterate this here *again* - no player can see another players cards in the software, not even the back-end or database knows what a game result is until the hand is is 100% complete. The software has passed multiple audits in both the Kanhawake and Curacao Licensee areas, and the RNG for card shuffling is auditing by an external company separate from these Licensed areas.

There are better players out there, there are streaks and runs and tilts, I personally looked into a2me hand history and found nothing suspect, I had my QA team look just out of interest, they found nothing - that is separate to Equity and from the Software Provider side in addition to them doing their work.

Remember also that Chico and EPN share the same software platform and as such are subject to *dual* audits of software code and RNG.

Online poker is a very small pond, and for an operator to do something nefarious like having "Superuser" client or account is business suicide - we've seen that with other operators in the past.

You can play on EPN and Chico for that matter knowing that there is no-one with a competitive edge other than skill and experience.
oh u guys got a shady business license and both chico and epn have always been shady, u guys never had business til black friday problems, and u guys are maximizing and stealing players funds!

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12-11-2015 , 06:39 AM
Yeh I found jamesbond007 suspicious too and the guys turning up and playing 20/40 is laughable considering the action at higher than 100nl is pathetic.

It's got to the point now where unfortunately I am suspicious of everyone who sits apart from a few old faces.
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12-11-2015 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LoLiWin
oh u guys got a shady business license and both chico and epn have always been shady, u guys never had business til black friday problems, and u guys are maximizing and stealing players funds!
I dont work for either EPN or CHICO, I work for the company that makes the software, backend solutions and infrastructure. I'm here for *technical* advice and feedback of a technical nature only.
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12-11-2015 , 07:37 AM
can you add auto top up and can players be kicked from heads up table after x minutes of sitting out.
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12-11-2015 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
can you add auto top up and can players be kicked from heads up table after x minutes of sitting out.
Technically its of course doable, we would need a request from the client (EPN in this case) to effect that.

I will speak to our QA/Dev team to see if its just backend changes or a code change.

If you'd like to push for it, I would suggest contacting support and ask them to forward your request to the Marketing Manager.
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12-11-2015 , 03:48 PM
I received an interesting update via email from the Payouts Department when inquiring about a cashout:

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We have been informed this week that some changes are taking place on the management team, and those changes are exactly to expedite all delayed payments to all players affected by that.
Payments will be ready soon, exact day I do not carry, you can expect our communication very soon.

We deeply apologize for the delay and any issues this situation may be causing you.

All changes taking place are exactly to benefit all of our players affected by our delay on payments.
I'm not sure what exactly to make of this, but any change is probably better than the status quo. Maybe new investors who see potential in the site?
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12-11-2015 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
FF been down for anyone else today? tried to open 3 times and no luck.
With all the issues and complaints you have with this site why do you continue to play there?.....
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12-11-2015 , 04:11 PM
because more rake paid means a higher chance of getting paid
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12-18-2015 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JonIrenicus
Is it true that they actually take 25 business days for a withdrawal?
Seems huge compared to the traffic there.
My WU was requested on 10/27 and Wire transfer same week. I have been told 3 different days now until they finally only respond with this.

Hello

We have been informed this week that some changes are taking place on the management team and those changes are exactly to expedite all delayed payments to all players affected by that
we know for our payouts team that payments will be ready soon, exact day I do not carry, you can expect communication very soon.
We deeply apologize for the delay and any issues this situation may be causing you.

All changes taking place are exactly to benefit all of our players affected by our delay on payments.

Regards

Eilyn A
Costumer Support
Full Flush Poker

All the MTT guarantees have dropped and payouts taking months and months. But They are at least still paying.
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12-18-2015 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by springs
Closer to 40 for checks, wire, skrill
Closer to 10 for MG or WU
MUCH longer than that atm
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12-18-2015 , 06:55 AM
CEO I hear is out and new management coming in.
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12-18-2015 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1DonkMaster1
CEO I hear is out and new management coming in.

Is Clive Archer the now former CEO?
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12-18-2015 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Is Clive Archer the now former CEO?
Yes. Clive Archer has been ill for the past 6 months.

Here's an article discussing it:

http://calvinayre.com/2015/12/09/pre...er-steps-away/
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12-18-2015 , 11:09 PM
I still dont understand how Clive archer's absence the past 6 months led to this payout issue. As if the FF office called him weekly asking for extra cash on hand and he was too sick so he couldnt give them any money? He was the ceo of EPN, not a shareholder, a sales rep, or in a payouts department. I am struggling to determine how this one individual was the cause of the payout dilemma. Regardless, i hope something is done under the new management team. This site has a ton of potential and is fun to play on, but they need to fix this problem sooner rather than later.
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12-23-2015 , 08:04 PM
Anyone else get a "Happy Holidays" solicitation pamphlet in the mail recently from these clowns? This was the first time I've ever gotten anything like this delivered to my actual mailbox. This is just getting comical now...
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12-23-2015 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by J^2
Anyone else get a "Happy Holidays" solicitation pamphlet in the mail recently from these clowns? This was the first time I've ever gotten anything like this delivered to my actual mailbox. This is just getting comical now...
Yup. I appreciate the complete inconsistency & lack of respect.

Also I was told I'd get a MG "today" on Tuesday. They then changed the status of it from "Under Review" to "Authorized" which is not the same as "Approved" as the money hasn't been taken from my account. They said it was already sent they just need to get me the information which apparently takes them days now. Been 8 business days since I requested my most recent MG & it's still just listed as "requested", hasn't even made it to the perpetual "Under Review" yet.
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12-24-2015 , 08:09 PM
Still a scam network as far as I can see
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01-02-2016 , 02:56 AM
I've played on America's card room for 2years loyally. I can't believe I didn't leave them sooner..

Full flush does have softer games and there whole ecosystem isn't about rewarding the bum hunting his using script using grinders.

It is the perfect place for competent rec players to enjoy a good game of poker fir real money and have a chance to win..

Acr has crazy late registration with 15 minute blinds to give the pro the lowest possible variance in losing. Even in micro games it's the same people playing each other for the rake race. Acr is nothing but 24 multirablers bum hunting recs.

I hAve truly come on board to full flush..

Have they had some liquidity issues? Yes. But if u look at the equity withdrawal thread it's down to under 3 weeks..

I think they deserve our loyalty and will/have worked there way out of the mess just like carbon poker did.

If u think full flush doesn't deserve our patronage just try America's card room and good luck to u. U will be back.

They have been getting better and if u.look on poker scout there traffic is up..

Other sites are just strictly geared for the grinder and bum hunters and yet recs keep depositing there.
I was one of them and a fool not to come to full flush earlier..

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01-02-2016 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by thesparten1
Have they had some liquidity issues? Yes. But if u look at the equity withdrawal thread it's down to under 3 weeks..
Uh, no it's not under 3 weeks. I have a MG that's been almost 3 weeks & hasn't even been moved from requested to under review, another that's a month old that hasn't been sent, WUs that are over a month old, & I don't really care that I have to pay 10% to cashout via these methods @ all but I only do it trying to get some money off the site since I have checks & wires that haven't been paid in over 6 months.

Is the site soft? Yes. Will I be back if by some miracle new ownership manages to actually pay me this month? Probably. Do I expect this to happen? No.

No site with a liquidity issue deserves loyalty. If you keep the player balances separate you should never have a liquidity issue. Not doing so is fraud since every site claims they do. This isn't an issue of them not being able to find a way to process checks for a 6 weeks, this is a case of them not having the money to pay out players for over 6 months.
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01-02-2016 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thesparten1
I've played on America's card room for 2years loyally. I can't believe I didn't leave them sooner..

Full flush does have softer games and there whole ecosystem isn't about rewarding the bum hunting his using script using grinders.

It is the perfect place for competent rec players to enjoy a good game of poker fir real money and have a chance to win..

Acr has crazy late registration with 15 minute blinds to give the pro the lowest possible variance in losing. Even in micro games it's the same people playing each other for the rake race. Acr is nothing but 24 multirablers bum hunting recs.

I hAve truly come on board to full flush..

Have they had some liquidity issues? Yes. But if u look at the equity withdrawal thread it's down to under 3 weeks..

I think they deserve our loyalty and will/have worked there way out of the mess just like carbon poker did.

If u think full flush doesn't deserve our patronage just try America's card room and good luck to u. U will be back.

They have been getting better and if u.look on poker scout there traffic is up..

Other sites are just strictly geared for the grinder and bum hunters and yet recs keep depositing there.
I was one of them and a fool not to come to full flush earlier..
You must work for Full Flush because ACR is 10x better than Full Flush, especially when it comes to trust.
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