with p2p transfers the money stays on the site. that would be a plus for them right ?

So when are we going to find out if this move is happening or not?

Have a skrill cashout from first week of November around the 3rd that still has not been processed. Skrill/moneybookers should never take this long.

*note, on BCP

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Kahn

who cares? its still the merge cashier no?

Anything specifically inaccurate with it?

Dear Kahn,

I have seen how you protect Carbon ( sportsbettingsites.org/carbonsports/ )

What you have to comment about that who owns it? What happens if it goes bust?

Is Howard Lederer 1 of the owners?

I m using one of the most old and well know skin and my last cashout (netteler) took less than 1 day. wow.

Which room sir?

I m not sure if I m supposed to say it in a public forum, but I just want to tell everyone that cashouts are going out for ROW players.

Why are they not processing BCP cash out requests?

Its relevant insofar as BCP's cash-outs are almost certainly being purposefully skipped at this time. The reason will become evident any day now...

There are some inaccuracies in that article and I've addressed it before. I do not work for Merge, and I can not comment on their true ownership structure more than they have themselves. Most people can understand why these companies would do anything in their power to obfuscate the ownership and protect the company/owners given the business they participate in...

If Merge goes bust, just like if any network goes bust, you are probably ****ed. That said, Merge is not going bust even though a dozen ill-informed parties come on public message boards every day espousing that the sky is falling.

Howard Lederer?... Troll much?

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Kahn

Why don't you just go ahead and tell us.

Well it starts out by saying that the Merge cashier is migrating to the Jazette cashier, which from what I have read and heard, is not the case.
In fact, the entire article only applies to Carbon, not Merge as stated.

Even if I knew the exact details, which I do not, it would not be my place to tell anyone. The only person who's word matters is the BCP rep. And when he is ready to make an announcement, he will. Until such time as we hear it from his lips, it's all heresay.

Again, BCP's owner is quality people and will be doing what he feels is best for his players and his business.

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Kahn

Thanks, appreciate the constructive feedback. I'll look into it and correct the article.

FYP.

any guesstimate on when he will make his announcement

Of course you can name the room, unless you have a financial interest in it yourself and would be spamming.

It was RPM

I have a pending Neteller withdrawal from October 31st on BCP...obviously it's very concerning regardless of the speculated reasons.

I see.

Well where is this announcement?

patience! its not coming today or tomorrow

Answer me this, since I appear to be nothing more than a clueless "glass half-full" dreamer that expects a company to treat its customers better than Michael Vick did his dogs back in the day...why are these companies allowed to obfuscate so often and get away with it, and why do seemingly the majority of players not care? To me, this whole thing has always been a complete and utter customer service failure times one hundred in that they simply cannot (or choose not, which is even worse) get out front and communicate to their players and keep them updated on the situation.

Do I expect them to reveal everything? No. But it says an awful lot about this company that they continue to shroud themselves and let rumor run rampant when all they had to do was come out, with a name placard in front of them, take ownership of this thing and at least try to talk to players as if they had a brain and could assimilate information. Frankly, I don't care what or how they reason their decisions - it's their company. But any company in business that cares to cultivate relationships with customers and stave off alienating them has true customer support - and the fact that they have gone this long while their company seems to be in free-fall with only veiled "I work for Merge or know a guy who dated the second cousin of a person they knew second hand who works there" messages (which only stand to fan the flames further), completely proves how inept and untrustworthy they are. Yet, most (or perhaps a vocal minority - Kahn, I'm looking at you...lol) don't seem to mind this and simply state it as "par for the course". Well, if it is, it's because we as the poker playing community allow them to treat us this way.

The perfect analogy is the NHL lockout and the fact that owner and players are debating on how best to divvy up billions generated by the fans (in the end, everything comes from the fans in one form or fashion). They know they can basically give a big "screw you, season's cancelled" to the fans because they know they will come back, regardless of what they say. Whether we want to admit it or not, we let a lot of these rooms basically walk all over us with their long cashout times and generally inept management because we want to play - so badly that we will allow these people to act like third world dictators instead of business owners, where no one demands accountability so long as the rooms stay open and the players get their money...eventually.

The UIGEA plays a part too - but this can't be used as justification to basically give these people free reign to do any underhanded thing they desire. If they are scared to reveal themselves because of potential legal issues...here's a thought - STOP BREAKING THE LAW {swear omitted - think Jim Carrey }. Stop employing people under the table. Stop using third party processors that are illegal (no clue if they are doing this or not, but I'm fairly certain I've seen a few folks post that these things are shady at best). Is there no legal way to offer US players online poker? Really? The best you can do is to use some sort of processor that, in essence, means you have to use fake names for everyone associated with your business?

I admit it - I'm just a dreamy-eyed sky watcher who thinks people should treat other people with respect. But I didn't get turned off to Merge by their ending of P2P transfers (despite their reasoning being pretty much an outright lie - quicker cashouts, anyone?) or any other changes they made to their game. Again - their business, their decisions. However, I don't think ****ty customer service and lack of caring to your customer base is acceptable and I for one will continue to point out ANY skin that treats its players as if they are a bankable commodity and can get away with giving them vague, general, and unspecific answers to player issues. We don't have to take what they give us - if we united more as a group, you damn best believe there would be some changes across the spectrum. But since that's a pipe dream, I'll move away from that part of it.

You can't treat people like this and expect to regain or keep players. At least me, in any case. Maybe I do think it's 1955 and that customer service should be priority #1 - I know...I'm nuts (or nutz...see what I did there?). But until I see some hardcore evidence that Merge is attacking this whole deal with a lot more attention to the players instead of largely leaving them in the dark, I won't partake in any of their offerings. And I'm sure they don't care...there's plenty of others who will.