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01-31-2013 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 3betu
Is there any other sites on the internet that does have this capability ? just asking because if so i will def stay off of them.
The best part of today is we have an oracle called google, so if you are not sure about something you can ask the oracle and see what happens.

If you ask the oracle whether any websites can format hard drives you will not find anything that pertains to that at all.

Ass in a bit of the common sense factor that if such websites existed there would

a) be an insane number of them that exist just for the joy of causing chaos

b) be a lot of information about such things


Certainly some websites can install viruses of varying types, and you can research that if you like.
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01-31-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Part of me wonders if any of the deeply paranoid people in this thread ever got an opportunity to be part of the other side of the equation - somehow they could sit at a table and magically see screenshots of the tens or hundreds of thousands of computers, what they think they could do with that other than be utterly bored to tears.

Seriously, the most boring thing one can do is watch some random schmoe doing mundane activities and these guys think that large departments of secret employees (have to be secret since none have talked about it) exist that do just that every day?

I will not even ask for what end or purpose, because I am certain that would make zero sense from any logical perspective for the real world, but I do hopw some share their special visions of why Pokerstars would do this.

I would be curious how the paranoid crew believes Pokerstars can do this in terms of gathering and processing the information for the evil overlords. How many people are needed to do this, how come they never tell, how many people have access to the information etc.


Paranoid people must love the internet because it is much more comfortable than those wood crates on street corners during winter.
Smoking drugs again Monteroy you post some horse ****.

So we are paranoid just because we would like to know what personal information is being stored on us or how this is used we would all have no rights in your drug addled utopia of reality eh howard marks.

Pokerstars has already broken the DPA in the UK with this e-mail sent from an employee what if this had a rootkit attachment and was malicious.
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01-31-2013 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Smoking drugs again Monteroy you post some horse ****.
The real world can be abrupt and frustrating to people who create special worlds in their minds.



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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
So we are paranoid just because we would like to know what personal information is being stored on us or how this is used we would all have no rights in your drug addled utopia of reality eh howard marks.
You are paranoid because you naturally assume every large company, government, probably even other people all have this power and use it for evil purposes, even if it defies all common sense.

You are paranoid because if you are told that they do not have a capability or they are not doing something your first belief is "hmm, what are they really hiding?"

You are paranoid because you create endless "prove this is not possible" structures in your mind.

You are paranoid because you are paranoid, it really is that simple.


All humans should exercise common sense, but guys like you go well beyond that (while rationalizing to yourself that you are just being "safe"), and that is what makes you paranoid.


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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Pokerstars has already broken the DPA in the UK with this e-mail sent from an employee what if this had a rootkit attachment and was malicious.
Two possible explanations:

1) Some random nobody does something of meaningless impact, gets caught right away, and the person is fired, and steps are taken to ensure similar things do not happen again

2) It is a coverup for possibly darker more sinister forces at work - after all if this can happen then ANYTHING can happen, and this dude getting caught at something proves all sorts of other things that have not been caught yet must be happening.


Possibility number(1) never exists in your world, while possibility number (2) is a constant in your mind.

That is why people like you are paranoid, and you create that general fear of the world for yourself.

All the best.
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01-31-2013 , 03:02 PM
Cliffs: A bunch of paranoid morons discuss why the health of their computer security and personal privacy is at risk by playing online poker.

Later that day: said morons use one of the biggest companies in the world for emailing personal and business documents, driving directions to personal and business destinations with a gps enabled device, web searches for personal and business reasons, calendar appointments for personal and business reasons, hosting personal and business pictures and video, and phone conversations of a personal and business nature all with little thought to privacy.
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01-31-2013 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Cliffs: A bunch of paranoid morons discuss why the health of their computer security and personal privacy is at risk by playing online poker.

Later that day: said morons use one of the biggest companies in the world for emailing personal and business documents, driving directions to personal and business destinations with a gps enabled device, web searches for personal and business reasons, calendar appointments for personal and business reasons, hosting personal and business pictures and video, and phone conversations of a personal and business nature all with little thought to privacy.
Google i would assume?
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01-31-2013 , 03:21 PM
This is to all you drug taking hore**** talking posters,as you live in the land of fairies and candy,You live in abubble where nothing bad ever happens in your world.

Post your I.P. or E-mail address here as you are sure your personal info is so safe...wait paranoid?

JOHN THE RIPPER IS OUT THERE.
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01-31-2013 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Post your I.P. or E-mail address here as you are sure your personal info is so safe...wait paranoid?
You do know that any 2+2 mod can look up your IP, right Captain Paranoid?
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01-31-2013 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
This is to all you drug taking hore**** talking posters,as you live in the land of fairies and candy,You live in abubble where nothing bad ever happens in your world.

Post your I.P. or E-mail address here as you are sure your personal info is so safe...wait paranoid?

JOHN THE RIPPER IS OUT THERE.


monteroy1979@gmail.com

IP addresses - some message boards actually post them along with posts, they are hardly a state secret. Welcome to the internet.

Not everyone is paranoid of the world like you.



Here is how your brain works

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/04/...pit-sweet-tea/

A story about how a McDonalds worker was arrested for spitting on food.

Now, when a guy like you reads that you think:

- If a guy at McDonalds does that, what is to stop others from doing that all the time?

- What if McDonalds is behind it? They could be asking their workers to fill drinks with spit to reduce costs of the drinks by pouring less ( I mean if Subway has 11 inch footlongs anything is possible).

- Why wouldn't companies do whatever they need to save costs, the fact this guy got caught proves that anything is possible

- Prove the companies are not behind it - you can't - see, that means they must be behind it all.


If you actually think the above sounds crazy then you are pretty much correct but replace McDonalds with Pokerstars and it is basically the same line of reasoning guys like you preach day after day.


Paranoid gonna Paranoid

All the best.
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01-31-2013 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
You do know that any 2+2 mod can look up your IP, right Captain Paranoid?
Take your tongue out of the shills backside dogs do that.
Your ignorance is bliss like your friends up in the sky.

Paranoid no security aware yes.I use Tor browser look that up lassie.
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01-31-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Paranoid no security aware yes.I use Tor browser look that up lassie.
If you use TOR at all time, you're either paranoid or a big fan of shady internet sites.

I'm willing to take my chances that I'm not going to get hacked because I post on 2+2 or Reddit.
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01-31-2013 , 04:31 PM
A dude got caught spitting on food in McDonalds, and another dude got caught sending out some emails with no special information at Pokerstars.

Anything is possible, so some need to assume the world will be out to get them 24/7 even when the world does not even know nor care that they even exist. Their paranoia empowers them in that way.
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01-31-2013 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
monteroy1979@gmail.com

IP addresses - some message boards actually post them along with posts, they are hardly a state secret. Welcome to the internet.

Not everyone is paranoid of the world like you.



Here is how your brain works

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/04/...pit-sweet-tea/

A story about how a McDonalds worker was arrested for spitting on food.

Now, when a guy like you reads that you think:

- If a guy at McDonalds does that, what is to stop others from doing that all the time?

- What if McDonalds is behind it? They could be asking their workers to fill drinks with spit to reduce costs of the drinks by pouring less ( I mean if Subway has 11 inch footlongs anything is possible).

- Why wouldn't companies do whatever they need to save costs, the fact this guy got caught proves that anything is possible

- Prove the companies are not behind it - you can't - see, that means they must be behind it all.


If you actually think the above sounds crazy then you are pretty much correct but replace McDonalds with Pokerstars and it is basically the same line of reasoning guys like you preach day after day.


Paranoid gonna Paranoid

All the best.
WTF are you on about again? STOP trying to misdirect this thread with attacks on me and your silly storys and opinions any more off topic crap from you and i will report you for trolling .

This thread is about privacy and pokersites OK sir shillalot.
Some may value there privacy others may not some may be unaware and most never read the terms and conditions.
Some players have had warnings from pokerstars about software on there PC even when its not running and they have the client open.
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01-31-2013 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
If you use TOR at all time, you're either paranoid or a big fan of shady internet sites.

I'm willing to take my chances that I'm not going to get hacked because I post on 2+2 or Reddit.
Poker players do not get hacked and when they do it was because they were not paranoid by your and other posters logic.
If just one player is more security aware from this thread then that is a result in itself but stop trying to misdirect off topic.
Being security aware is not the same as being paranoid.
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01-31-2013 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
WTF are you on about again? STOP trying to misdirect this thread with attacks on me and your silly storys and opinions any more off topic crap from you and i will report you for trolling .

This thread is about privacy and pokersites OK sir shillalot.
Some may value there privacy others may not some may be unaware and most never read the terms and conditions.
Some players have had warnings from pokerstars about software on there PC even when its not running and they have the client open.
If you do not approve of how pokersites treat your privacy then do not play there.

All the best.

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01-31-2013 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaronluvsyababy1
Thats precisely why AEP got banned for coughing up the truth on how to exploit these sites in detail.
Um, what? AEP was banned because he was accused of scamming people, and his name was basically an advertisement for his proxy service, used by players to play on sites from countries from which they weren't permitted to.

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Lastly Josem ,whilst you cannot prove the sites dont do anything untoward like using packet injection techniques ,Can you simply answer whether or not it is possible to actually do ,if so then you have your answer that online poker can be rigged. Because at present "packet injection techniques" are found to be LEGAL in any technical aspect that I personally know of.! Even the sites software has a "properties box wherein the contents can be modified or changed".
You keep carrying on about this like it would be some revelation - we already know poker could be rigged, and it doesn't require clandestine operations on your computer. Why would they go to all that trouble when they could simply send you different cards in the first place? They already know who you are without worrying about your IP. And it doesn't matter whether packet injection techniques are legal - the path taken to commit a fraudulent act doesn't change the fact that it's fraudulent.

Now whether they could rig it without being detected is another matter, but the method used doesn't affect this, as it would be detected through players' results in their hand histories.

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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
WTF are you on about again? STOP trying to misdirect this thread with attacks on me and your silly storys and opinions any more off topic crap from you and i will report you for trolling.
Pretty amazing that you're the one reporting posts:

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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Smoking drugs again Monteroy you post some horse ****.
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
This is to all you drug taking hore**** talking posters,as you live in the land of fairies and candy,You live in abubble where nothing bad ever happens in your world.
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Take your tongue out of the shills backside dogs do that.
Your ignorance is bliss like your friends up in the sky.
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
This thread is about privacy and pokersites OK sir shillalot.
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01-31-2013 , 05:50 PM
Yes i lost direction, all this Monteroy seems to do is enter threads with long rambling posts ridiculing other posters and de-railing the topic in hand the guy is a troll and i went to his level today.
His lapdogs then also chime in with posts that are as off topic as his, its disgusting this goes on, in future i will just report his and other posters ramblings as he has managed to deploy his tactics in this thread yet again.
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01-31-2013 , 05:56 PM
Just try and keep some perspective, and keep in mind that disagreeing does not euqate trolling, and not every analogy is a derail.
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01-31-2013 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
Yes i lost direction, all this Monteroy seems to do is enter threads with long rambling posts ridiculing other posters and de-railing the topic in hand the guy is a troll and i went to his level today.
His lapdogs then also chime in with posts that are as off topic as his, its disgusting this goes on, in future i will just report his and other posters ramblings as he has managed to deploy his tactics in this thread yet again.
It's his job along with the others to do this as you can tell. The do this 5-7 days a week as they are affiliated with the poker sites in some way or another. The whole point is to keep pressing and debating any post that questions or speaks out anything against the online poker industry or Pokerstars. The aim is to sway those on the fence or sway the one casual virgined player who is easily persuaded. You may lose a lifetime customer if they didn't do there job properly
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01-31-2013 , 06:39 PM
Lose a lifetime customer? I tell guys like you all the time that the last thing you should do is be a customer to any online poker site.

Quit all forms of online poker and never play again.

Also, if you can further develop the Secret Shill Society theory that would be appreciated. I hope we get to wear cool hats at the meetings.

All the best.
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01-31-2013 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Lose a lifetime customer? I tell guys like you all the time that the last thing you should do is be a customer to any online poker site.

Quit all forms of online poker and never play again.

Also, if you can further develop the Secret Shill Society theory that would be appreciated. I hope we get to wear cool hats at the meetings.

All the best.
5000 posts...Get a girlfriend dude!
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01-31-2013 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
No.

When I say 'they can' I mean that since they have the ability to update the software they can code whatever they like in it and, if you allow the upgrade, they would then have the ability to do what they coded.

When Josem says they can't, he means that the software as it stands does not have that capability.

So no one is lying and no one is calling anyone a lair.

And, I'm not suggesting that there is any likelihood that PS would ever include malicious code. Just making the point that when you allow anyone else's code onto your computer you have to have made the decision that you trust the supplier of that code.
You mean like the "Sha1 Certification"?

By the way that can be modified or changed too.
Let me just say that by granting a personal identifiable pc computer or laptop into someone elses possesion irc "clearly coded pieces of softare that may be invasive" then it stands to reason how 1 would feel slightly a bit insecure no? regarding thier "data/hole cards or any other form of privacy"

I would recommend you search deeper into the code within the software ,whilst it may not be clear to many ,just think how they included such code into the absolute poker software and how it was found out in the end.!

Obviously there is more than what we know about that is going on behind and without our knowledge here guys.
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01-31-2013 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
5000 posts...Get a girlfriend dude!
My account is over 6 years old. You latest throwaway gimmick account is a few days old. No doubt if you added all of your gimmicks you would see you post quite a few more times per day than I do on average.

It is ok, I know that type of math stuff scares and confuses disposable riggies like you.

Remember - we are all in on it, all of us, all the time shilling for shills who shill shilling. That is how the world works in your head, and I am completely supporting that you continue to always think like that.

A good way to practice is for you to start every one of your sentences with something like "there is more going on..."

Also, be sure to quit all forms of online poker. Never play again.


All the best.
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02-01-2013 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaronluvsyababy1
You mean like the "Sha1 Certification"?

By the way that can be modified or changed too.
Let me just say that by granting a personal identifiable pc computer or laptop into someone elses possesion irc "clearly coded pieces of softare that may be invasive" then it stands to reason how 1 would feel slightly a bit insecure no? regarding thier "data/hole cards or any other form of privacy"

I would recommend you search deeper into the code within the software ,whilst it may not be clear to many ,just think how they included such code into the absolute poker software and how it was found out in the end.!

Obviously there is more than what we know about that is going on behind and without our knowledge here guys.
All you seem to be doing is mixing a load of paranoia with a few buzz words that you clearly don't understand in an attempt to make it look as if you have a clue what you are talking about.

You don't.
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02-04-2013 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OnE OuT On RiVeR
all this Monteroy seems to do is enter threads with coherent, easy-to-read, and correctly spelled posts with proper grammar ridiculing profoundly stupid people regarding the topic in hand the guy is a troll for said profoundly stupid people and i got pwned today.
Other posters who recognize how profoundly stupid the posters Monteroy trolls are then also chime in with posts that are either just as coherent or cogent in their argument or just simply mocking, pointing, and laughing at these morons who come on 2+2 every day (hour?) to post mindless drivel and can't even take the time to post in a manner that reflects something higher than a jr. high school education level, its ****ing hilarious, in future i will just report his and other posters gems because I am butt-hurt as he has managed to obliterate yet another clueless automaton in this thread.
fyp

Now on to the rigged thread where hilarity will ensue
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02-04-2013 , 06:53 PM
i guess this explains why PS can be so RAM-intensive at some times...
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