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tricked by a hacker/saved by Ultimate Bet tricked by a hacker/saved by Ultimate Bet

03-31-2010 , 09:07 AM
As some of you might know, Joe "floes" Serock's AIM got hacked. I sent $3,150 to "Joe's horse's" account on UB, and only find out that it wasn't Joe 5 days later, because he was playing WPT Indiana and I didn't want to bother him. I say GG to the 3k and call UB to find out the name of the account I sent to (I didn't expect to get any money back from UB because it's obviously not their fault that someone's AIM got hacked and that someone else was stupid enough to send to an unknown account, but felt my 3k would be very well spent if
somehow I can make the hacker's life miserable). I spoke to George, head of UB security, who was very understanding and helpful, assuring me that they're on it and that there's a chance I might be able to get some money back. Exactly one business day later George informs me that they were able to recover the money, and 30 minutes later I was very pleasantly surprised and extremely happy to find the full amount transferred back to my account! I would just like to say thank you to George and to Ultimate Bet!

Alex Bolotin
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03-31-2010 , 09:11 AM
maybe UB are trying really hard to win customers over. I'm sure this incident will be a good example and very suprised you got your money back. FTP would just send the "nah sorry brah money's gone " template message.
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03-31-2010 , 09:12 AM
This one is going downhill from here............
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03-31-2010 , 09:16 AM
well, at least YOU got all your money back from UB right..

lets throw a party in their good name!
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03-31-2010 , 09:17 AM
cool, but really really lucky that you got it back.
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03-31-2010 , 10:54 AM
i didnt realize people still play on that site, i mean they only stole like 20 million from their players.
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03-31-2010 , 11:08 AM
Good story OP
Its a nice change from the past of AP/UB
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03-31-2010 , 11:08 AM
lol nice advertising piece, not buying it OP
Ban the spammer.
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03-31-2010 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DIESEL PPP
As some of you might know, I am Phil Hellmuth. I sent $3,150 to "my special account" on UB. I say GG to the 3k when some idiot from northern Europe calls me with a queen and a ten (I didn't expect to get any money back from UB because it's obviously not their fault that someone's an idiot from northern Europe, but felt my 3k would be very well spent if somehow I can make the idiot from northern Europes life miserable). I spoke to George, head of UB seclolurity, who was very understanding and shady, assuring me that they're on it and that there's a chance I might be able to see other peoples hole cards. Exactly one business day later George informs me that they were able to superuse my account, and 30 minutes later I was very pleasantly surprised and extremely happy to find the account working very successfully! I would just like to say thank you to George and to Ultimate Bet!

Phil

FYP
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03-31-2010 , 11:41 AM
Did I just hear something along the lines of "I don't mind losing the 3K if I can make the hacker's life miserable"

lol.
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03-31-2010 , 11:53 AM
Wait, how did you get your money back? Wouldn't the scammer spend/gamble the money away immediately? I just don't understand why the person doing the scam would let the money just sit there for a few days and not touch it. Please help me try to understand this, or tell me what I am missing.

PS I am glad you got your money back, and Kudos to UB for getting right on the investigation.
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03-31-2010 , 11:56 AM
OP, did they say anything how they recovered the money? Have they been able to freeze the money right in time? (did the hacker try to cash it out?) or did they pay that out of their pocket? (after the hacker dumped it?)
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03-31-2010 , 11:57 AM
1 right and 54758475843 wrongs don't make a right
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03-31-2010 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Online Veteran
Wait, how did you get your money back? Wouldn't the scammer spend/gamble the money away immediately? I just don't understand why the person doing the scam would let the money just sit there for a few days and not touch it. Please help me try to understand this, or tell me what I am missing.

PS I am glad you got your money back, and Kudos to UB for getting right on the investigation.
Like I said, I didn't expect to get the money back since I figured it was long gone. I'm assuming when the hacker tried to cash it out, UB asked him to verify his account and froze it meanwhile.
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03-31-2010 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sickofitall
OP, did they say anything how they recovered the money? Have they been able to freeze the money right in time? (did the hacker try to cash it out?) or did they pay that out of their pocket? (after the hacker dumped it?)
I received it as a transfer from the account I sent to 30 min after I spoke to George, so it looks like UB confiscated the funds as opposed to paying out of pocket.

Funny thing is I got warned about hacking just a few days prior by Chad, but chose to ignore it. Before you do swaps on AIM, make sure you verify by talking to the person on the phone!
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03-31-2010 , 01:20 PM
Hi George.
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03-31-2010 , 01:25 PM
just going through a hacking experience of my own, so I feel you on this. it was such a releif to find out moneybookers caught the guy before he widthdrew anything out and froze the account. could have been a lot worse for me, glad you sorted it out as well.
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03-31-2010 , 01:39 PM
UBs always had amazing support fwiw. if it werent for the SCANDAL!!!! and the merge it would probably still be the best site
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03-31-2010 , 01:58 PM
pretty sad it's noteworthy if a company gave money to its rightful owner.

Way not to steal again UB!! We are so proud of you.
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04-01-2010 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_
1 right and 54758475843 wrongs don't make a right
THIS........ OP boy you and ub will try anything to recover from cheating people and still have not made right all the stealing you guys did.

Somebody please close down UB so I dont tilt every time I read about them. Then there's that guy on there that has a mole on his face that looks like a second nose.

Honestly they really should just close it down because he's associated with it. PH you missed the memo: it was halfway entertaining the first time I saw you but the poker tv boom hit about 8 yrs ago its not good tv now and hasnt been for some time...grow up.
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04-01-2010 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KingBBinLV
i didnt realize people still play on that site, i mean they only stole like 20 million from their players.
so what dude, read OP, they helped HIM recover almost 3 0 0 0, that's three thousand buckaroos man.


UB suuuhuuuhuuuhuuuucks mah butt
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04-01-2010 , 11:49 AM
you deserved to lose more and not get it back for supporting that site
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04-01-2010 , 11:56 AM
"to recover the money, and 30 minutes later I was very pleasantly surprised and extremely happy to find the full amount transferred back to my account! I would just like to say thank you to George and to Ultimate Bet!"

[x] April fools
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