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07-19-2015 , 02:25 AM
Just read the entire thread. I read a few of these types of posts on 2+2 before, and all the previous ones I've read, it turned out the OP was guilty. I must say that OP in this thread has presented their case 100x better than the other posters, which is a plus and takes away some of my skepticism when reading threads like this. GL OP, if what you posted is the whole true story, then I am sure it will work itself out, though it will probably take awhile, so try to not lose too much sleep in the meantime >.<
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07-19-2015 , 05:18 AM
Agh. I know the hopeless feeling you have right now and every minute seems like an hour.
But seriously, you have some good guys here on your side, prr and monteroy to name a couple.
This site, for all its faults (particularly with alot of nasty trolling) IS actually an extremely powerful platform and pokersites do take these threads seriously if they gain alot of traction.
Im of the opinion that, if you have been wronged here, you WILL be reimbursed. I have seen some wonderful threads rally enough support for the sites to come and correct their own errors.
Fingers crossed for you sir. Good luck.
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07-19-2015 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fatNsweaty
Just read the entire thread. I read a few of these types of posts on 2+2 before, and all the previous ones I've read, it turned out the OP was guilty. I must say that OP in this thread has presented their case 100x better than the other posters, which is a plus and takes away some of my skepticism when reading threads like this. GL OP, if what you posted is the whole true story, then I am sure it will work itself out, though it will probably take awhile, so try to not lose too much sleep in the meantime >.<
Thank you for the interest. I really have posted anything, if Party has anything else other than this they have my full permission to post anything in this thread that is in any way contradictory to anything I have posted. Based on posts made in this thread in the last 24 hours I have been a lot calmer today.

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Agh. I know the hopeless feeling you have right now and every minute seems like an hour.
But seriously, you have some good guys here on your side, prr and monteroy to name a couple.
This site, for all its faults (particularly with alot of nasty trolling) IS actually an extremely powerful platform and pokersites do take these threads seriously if they gain alot of traction.
Im of the opinion that, if you have been wronged here, you WILL be reimbursed. I have seen some wonderful threads rally enough support for the sites to come and correct their own errors.
Fingers crossed for you sir. Good luck.
Thank you sir. Honestly, at these times one is thankful that a site like this exists and there are many parts of it that are serious and still of huge benefit to the poker community. Honestly, without the poeple on here God knows what the poker landscape would look like. My experience from forums in general throughout the years has been not great but I have decided to keep this account active and look through these forums myself in case anyone else in the future needs help or any type of support, it seems that if we do not police these things ourselves then nobody else will.
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07-20-2015 , 05:42 PM
An update:

Ok, and update. Hadn´t been conatcted after 48 hours as expected, so called them. WAs told that they will have a supervisor call me tomorrow. I think this is the fifth or sixth time they have moved this forward but I will try and keep my calm, even though its a bit difficult.
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07-20-2015 , 05:56 PM
I should have mentioned this earlier, but you should keep a log of the time and date of all the calls and the name of the people you spoke to each time.

Seems they gave you a firm deadline for a supervisor to call, so be patient and see if it plays out.
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07-20-2015 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I should have mentioned this earlier, but you should keep a log of the time and date of all the calls and the name of the people you spoke to each time.

Seems they gave you a firm deadline for a supervisor to call, so be patient and see if it plays out.
Thanks Monteroy, I will do that from now moving forward and update the thread. Ifthey give me a negative answer tomorrow I will be extremely frustrated at this point.
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07-20-2015 , 09:22 PM
Just read whole thread and do believe you're innocent (would pretty much lose all faith in humanity if you aren't).

GL
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07-20-2015 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TakingIt
Just read whole thread and do believe you're innocent (would pretty much lose all faith in humanity if you aren't).

GL
Thanks for reading and dont worry, I am. I´ll update thread tomorrow with PartyPokers answer to this.
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07-21-2015 , 03:28 PM
An update:

Today I recieved this email from them:

Thank you for contacting us.

With respect to your Account, we wish to inform you that the security team is reviewing the case and shall revert by 24th July (Friday). We acknowledge that this has been a long wait for you but appreciate the patience shown so far.

We promise to do everything in our capacity to expedite the communication process with regards to the pending investigation.

Sincerely,

Credit Team

Gamble Responsibly


Afterwards I called and they assured me I would not need to wait past the 24th. I hope this is not a tactic from their side to let the interest in this thread die down, but I might just be thinking that cause I am stressed out. I´ll wait and update this thread on the 24th, thanks to anyone reading or posting here.
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07-21-2015 , 03:38 PM
Good news that they are reviewing your case again. Still feel I believe you and like I said earlier, unless you aren't hiding some info, I'm sure Party will see they were wrong and correct the situation.
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07-21-2015 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
Good news that they are reviewing your case again. Still feel I believe you and like I said earlier, unless you aren't hiding some info, I'm sure Party will see they were wrong and correct the situation.
this
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07-21-2015 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by agh
pantsman211 or janett777
lmao. i beat pants for >100bb/100 over a big sample. prob would have been quite easy to collude chipdumping if you looked at certain hands or if neither of us played often.

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1
lmao. i beat pants for >100bb/100 over a big sample. prob would have been quite easy to collude chipdumping if you looked at certain hands or if neither of us played often.
meant to say conclude*

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-22-2015 at 02:14 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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07-21-2015 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by agh
Afterwards I called and they assured me I would not need to wait past the 24th. I hope this is not a tactic from their side to let the interest in this thread die down, but I might just be thinking that cause I am stressed out. I´ll wait and update this thread on the 24th, thanks to anyone reading or posting here.
u really need to stop with the conspiracy theories, be patient, and just let them do their job. as i mentioned earlier the time frame is quite standard considering the complexity and amount of $ involved. u have to remember they want to get it right on their end as well.

i know its hard to have a large sum of $ held and not have control over it, but ur just going to have to suck it up. i can speak from experience because i had a large sum tied up in the tusk/microgaming liquidation and wasnt paid out for 6 years (dont worry ur case will be much shorter lol) and then again for 1.5 years with the ftp black friday.

anyways gl, i would say ur odds of recovering the $ r quite good with the info u have presented in this thread
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07-21-2015 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
Good news that they are reviewing your case again. Still feel I believe you and like I said earlier, unless you aren't hiding some info, I'm sure Party will see they were wrong and correct the situation.
Thank you, I am actually feeling the first twinge of cautious optimism now with these recent posts, thanks.

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this
Awesome, I will stick it out.

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1
lmao. i beat pants for >100bb/100 over a big sample. prob would have been quite easy to collude chipdumping if you looked at certain hands or if neither of us played often.
Exactly. However, looking at my hands I wasn´t even forced to make too many if any unstandard plays in the 308 hand sesssion. I can agree w the notion that usually hh don´t matter much, however having reviewed the hands I would believe a lot of experienced players would agree this is the exception where I am playing so very straigtforwardly in almost all the spots.

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Originally Posted by ItsOnlyChips
u really need to stop with the conspiracy theories, be patient, and just let them do their job. as i mentioned earlier the time frame is quite standard considering the complexity and amount of $ involved. u have to remember they want to get it right on their end as well.

i know its hard to have a large sum of $ held and not have control over it, but ur just going to have to suck it up. i can speak from experience because i had a large sum tied up in the tusk/microgaming liquidation and wasnt paid out for 6 years (dont worry ur case will be much shorter lol) and then again for 1.5 years with the ftp black friday.

anyways gl, i would say ur odds of recovering the $ r quite good with the info u have presented in this thread
Tnanks IOC, I can only imagine what that must have been like. Thank you for the encouraging words!
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07-24-2015 , 05:34 PM
AN UPDATE:

I am feeling pretty bad right now. I did not recieve a phone call today but rather an email, stating that my account is closed and that balances won from that player are seized, but that the other balances will be released:

Dear Ali,

Thank you for contacting us & we appreciate the patience shown in this regard.

After a comprehensive investigation on your gaming, we regret to inform you that the decision taken on your account cannot be revoked.

We wish to inform you that while taking decisions of this magnitude in particular and any closure in general, the review is done in a thorough & comprehensive manner. Whilst you may be able to justify some of the gameplay, the circumstantial evidence we have in this situation is overwhelming and compels us reiterate the decision already communicated to you.

However, with respect to the Account balance, we are withholding the funds received from the player in question and will approve the winnings you accumulated from other sources. The funds confiscated in this process is €9302 and your available balance after this reversal is $12216.09.

The Fund out request will be initiated at the earliest convenience to your most frequent Cashout option and you shall be informed once the process is initiated.

Regards,
Game Security Team.


I have done nothing wrong, and I think they know that and dont want to pay out the 9k, and for that reason they have to close the account as well. Not once I have been asked a question or asked to clarify regarding the circumstantial evidence, like I have done in this thread (and in every case, succesfully debunked). I feel this is down right villaneous, inccredibly frustrated and would love any ideas on how to proceed.
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07-24-2015 , 06:49 PM
Withdraw the remaining $12216.
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07-24-2015 , 08:53 PM
Sounds like they are trying to save face. Scums. Start tweeting about it. It seems major companies are not very happy when someone tweets about them being shady
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07-25-2015 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by agh
....the circumstantial evidence we have in this situation is overwhelming.......
Yeah, to me that doesn't really make sense, if the evidence is overwhelming then they should have some direct evidence against you rather than circumstantial.

It's bull****.

They've essentially stolen the money.
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07-25-2015 , 03:29 AM
I think you should wait until after you've gotten the remaining money back before going too crazy, then you can do whatever you want with no consequences.
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07-25-2015 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
Withdraw the remaining $12216.
I believe this will be done automatically by them, I have no access to the account.

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Originally Posted by MX210
Sounds like they are trying to save face. Scums. Start tweeting about it. It seems major companies are not very happy when someone tweets about them being shady
Yes. I believe this is setting a very dangereous precedent. I do not use twitter but I might open an account to do this. If anyone else could send a tweet in their spare time I would veru much appreciate that as well.
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07-25-2015 , 12:36 PM
Congratulations on getting the 12k released.

I understand your frustration and believe that you should pursue the remainder but at the same time I think you have to see that you are at least better off than when you created this thread.
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07-25-2015 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by agh
Also, this could have been premeditated so don´t know if it counts in my favour, but after he busted I followed him to another heads up table where he sat another player and I joined the waitlist.
What happened at this table? Did the player who played you lose at this table, and if so is the other player still playing on party?
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07-25-2015 , 01:39 PM
OP has over 12,000 reasons to be happier than when he started this thread, however that does not mean he should give up his fight if everything he has said is true.

Party is a public company so once he gets his bankroll back he should consider a few things like posting all of the details in the Party thread here and looking for a hard core reg there to help continue fighting the case (for a cut of the money). He should also consider going to or having an agent go to the annual meeting to being this up if they open the floor for discussion. Management at those meetings tend to promise to help after as a way to shut the person up, but then they do have to follow up.

Before this fight happens the person representing him should literally know every hand that was played as well.

Good luck.
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07-25-2015 , 02:52 PM
good reason not playing on partypoker
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07-25-2015 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mullion
What happened at this table? Did the player who played you lose at this table, and if so is the other player still playing on party?
This is the other guy Jorgen lost money to. Looks like his account is still open.

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