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07-03-2008 , 07:47 PM
Updating the list, as it comes to my attention lg8732 is a serial scammer who scammed many members here and including me, for now I am taking him off the list, awaiting MH confirmation on my suspicions. If he turns out to be legit I will add him back on there of course. MH already banned him as I see.
OhioSt2k $ 200 (initially owed $ 450)
gettinricher7 $ 280 (initially owed $ 300)
lobster $ 400
exec771 $ 310
tb17 $ 270
sah_24 $ 500
citrus $ 200

total $ 2160 I will update this as every payment is made

there were 2 more but they got paid already: ktulu22 and hookem
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07-03-2008 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Roman - The situation didn't just COME UP!!

You made it happen.
You lost some money which happens to a lot of people. Then you decided to steal from people. Nothing about that just "came up"
You made the decision to steal from people. YOU.
I am talking about my situation prior to this incident.
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07-03-2008 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by romanwarrior
Updating the list, as it comes to my attention lg8732 is a serial scammer who scammed many members here and including me, for now I am taking him off the list, awaiting MH confirmation on my suspicions. If he turns out to be legit I will add him back on there of course. MH already banned him as I see.
OhioSt2k $ 200 (initially owed $ 450)
gettinricher7 $ 280 (initially owed $ 300)
lobster $ 400
exec771 $ 310
tb17 $ 270
sah_24 $ 500
citrus $ 200

total $ 2160 I will update this as every payment is made

there were 2 more but they got paid already: ktulu22 and hookem
I don't get it if he sent you money you owe him, and if he didnt why wass he on the list in the first place?
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07-03-2008 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by romanwarrior
I am talking about my situation prior to WHAT I ALONE DID TO COMPLETELY TRUSTING PEOPLE.

Calling it an 'incident' and some of your other word choices in this thread really seem designed to relieve yourself of guilt and responsibility on this.

Glad that you're trying to get the money from wherever though and hope you are able to pay back these people immediately.

You don't necessarily have to buy gift-cards though. Can't you just wire the money via Western Union or Moneygram or whatever?
I think the people involved just have to give you their name and state or town.
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07-03-2008 , 07:54 PM
I had to stop reading this thread halfway through because you make me so sick roman. Seriously wow. Go do EVERYTHING except play poker ASAP to get money. Don't even think about eating anything other than raman noodles until your debt is paid. ****ing scum.
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07-03-2008 , 07:55 PM
if the one guy scammed other people I still think roman owes him the money he scammed from him. It's an interesting conundrum though.
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07-03-2008 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by romanwarrior
Bob once again I don't have a gambling problem, I actually win in poker believe it or not, I claimed a profit from poker over 15k since 2004.

I have a question, if I buy a prepaid card and give the numbers to those I owe to, will they be able to use it to deposit the funds into their account ??
your not addicated and you sya your good at poker but yet you have a gambling debt afraid to tell your wife about it. your hiding it it from her your worry that she will leave over it. ya if your not addicated to it nobody is. sell your **** quit poker your addicated admit alreadly no way your addicition can blind you this much.
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07-03-2008 , 08:04 PM
Its simple that money goes to a mod who distributes it to the people the other guy scammed..

Just becaue that money came from a guy who scammed other people doesnt mean its ok to keep it.
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07-03-2008 , 08:07 PM
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Just becaue that money came from a guy who scammed other people doesnt mean its ok to keep it.

Would sure be a lucky break for roman if this were the case though.
Steal $2400.
Find out you stole part of it from a fellow theif.
So you only pay back $2100 whenever you get around to it.
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07-03-2008 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
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You don't necessarily have to buy gift-cards though. Can't you just wire the money via Western Union or Moneygram or whatever?
I think the people involved just have to give you their name and state or town.
Yes. There would be fees but nothing substantial $15-20 per victim. If the victim wished to remain anonymous with small amounts under $500/$1000 you don't even need a real name as the sender can waive ID and instead have a secret question. Further, Stars accepts Western Union as a deposit method so OP can just deposit money on behalf of the victims and then give them the MCT# and they will get credit for it in their accounts.

Also in Canada we can just e-mail money from any bank account to anyone with a bank account even at a different financial institution. Not sure if this is available in the States. Regardless, if someone trusts OP with their account / transit number (basically what is printed on any cheque) OP can just go into any branch of the bank and deposit the money into their accounts for free.

There really is no reason to make it more complicated and get gift cards involved.
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07-03-2008 , 08:27 PM
I know he can deposit on Stars via Moneygram or WU and then do the transfers from there but I'm kind of thinking it would be a bad idea to even tempt him with money on the site since there's just ever-so-slim possibility he MIGHT have a gambling problem.

If he doesn't have all the money when he starts to do this then he can reason that he will try to play it "just a little" to see if he can run it up to $2400 to pay everyone else back. Since he already pretty much said he wanted to do this with his last $24 or whatever I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest he might get tempted and change his mind if he tries to do the transfer through Stars.

That's why I thought transferring the money directly to the people he stole from via WU or MG would be a better idea.
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07-03-2008 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by romanwarrior
OhioSt2k $ 200 (initially owed $ 450)
gettinricher7 $ 280 (initially owed $ 300)
lobster $ 400
exec771 $ 310
tb17 $ 270
sah_24 $ 500
lg8732 $ 210
citrus $ 200

total $ 2370 I will update this as every payment is made

there were 2 more but they got paid already: ktulu22 and hookem
In answer to the question about keeping quiet about the slow transfers, I honestly though rw was in the same position I am; have a reasonable bankroll floating around several sites, just can't get it--with any speed--where I want it. I didn't want to trash his reputation and make it harder for him to move money around to some place where he could transfer it to me. I was keeping an eye on his postings to see if he was doing this to anyone else, but it didn't look like he was. I ended up getting busy with life and such and didn't check again until last night when I saw the depth of the problem. RW sounds like he's got a boat load of issues and it's scary that there's a wife and kid wrapped up in them, but, if he's going to try and make it right, I certainly want to give him the opportunity.
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07-03-2008 , 08:41 PM
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I know he can deposit on Stars via Moneygram or WU and then do the transfers from there but I'm kind of thinking it would be a bad idea to even tempt him with money on the site since there's just ever-so-slim possibility he MIGHT have a gambling problem.
Oh I agree transferring it to his account would be a big mistake. I meant he could transfer it to their accounts. When you send money via Western Union there is a box that you can check about half way down that says I'm sending this money on behalf of someone else. So he'd physically go to the agent but then he'd PM the MCT# to the victims and they would enter it at Stars. The funds would never be in his account.

I have never done it with Stars but with sportsbooks I've done it countless times. There is an agent in my building so when friends need to top up their accounts it is easier for me to just go downstairs and they give me the money later.
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07-03-2008 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
danger - I didn't follow the situation too closely between you and Mark and the $50 or whatever it was.
But my impression was that you definitely sounded very similar to that.
And I'm almost positive others would agree.

Glad that you are willing to look at something like this and that it makese you think about your own actions though. That kind of self-reflection about what you did can only benefit you I believe.

We still luv u Dang111!!!!lol!! come back to the culb.

And I sure hate this guy romanwarrior...and that durn greg odlen. man that guy
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07-03-2008 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dangeraw
your not addicated and you sya your good at poker but yet you have a gambling debt afraid to tell your wife about it. your hiding it it from her your worry that she will leave over it. ya if your not addicated to it nobody is. sell your **** quit poker your addicated admit alreadly no way your addicition can blind you this much.
Why wont you tell your parents you play poker for real monies Danger.
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07-03-2008 , 08:55 PM
Henry - I'm not really sure but I think for him to do it that way it would have to be the player on Stars entering the deposit there and then they get the number, send it to Roman, and then he goes to WU or MG and deposits it.

I don't think Stars likes you very much if you say you are about to deposit into your account via WU but never do. So for the player to do this they would have to trust that roman would actually follow through and not renege and end up getting them in some sort of trouble.
However, it's entirely possible that Stars doesn't care if you say you are going to deposit and then don't end up doing it at all so perhaps this concern isn't justified.
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07-03-2008 , 08:56 PM
ya i hope it he makes it all right i had done a couple trades b4 wit no problems at all, but the 500$ taken from me is like 1/5 of all the money i have to my name so it is an important amount to some people! But hes continued to keep contact wit me and i apreciate that at least
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07-03-2008 , 09:10 PM
Ok sorry I had to step out for a little, I have 120 in cash which I want to distribute now, PS is out of question as my balance is negative there, if someone is willing to let me deposit on their account with moneygram I will be happy to do so. Than they can distribute the funds to others.

if that is the same scammer who I think it is, he scammed me out of nearly $ 500
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07-03-2008 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by romanwarrior
Ok sorry I had to step out for a little, I have 120 in cash which I want to distribute now, PS is out of question as my balance is negative there, if someone is willing to let me deposit on their account with moneygram I will be happy to do so. Than they can distribute the funds to others.

if that is the same scammer who I think it is, he scammed me out of nearly $ 500
I would love my money, but if sah is really hurting, then pay my share to him first.
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07-03-2008 , 09:15 PM
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My parents will NEVER help me, and my wife's parents live in another country so that is out of the question. If I sell my wife's stuff she will probably leave me, and that will defy the purpose of me doing it so she doesnt leave me.
I had to pay bills on time last month or she would of left me.
If you're marriage is so rocky at this point that your wife would leave you for either of those two reasons, then you have other major problems besides gambling. Perhaps this is the time to start thinking about where you're heading and what kind of cliff is at the end of this road.
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07-03-2008 , 09:15 PM
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Ok sorry I had to step out for a little, I have 120 in cash which I want to distribute now
Amscot GIVES away free money orders. Other places charge about a buck. Buy them and mail 'em, taking photos/scanning them before you put 'em in the envelope.
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07-03-2008 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gettinricher7
I would love my money, but if sah is really hurting, then pay my share to him first.
im not dying i pay my bills, as i am 23 yr old wit only few bills. i was just saying that i dont have alot money and its alot for me to lose?
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07-03-2008 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerstudAA
Why wont you tell your parents you play poker for real monies Danger.
they know.
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07-03-2008 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
im not dying i pay my bills, as i am 23 yr old wit only few bills. i was just saying that i dont have alot money and its alot for me to lose?
I think 300 dollars is a lot of money as well, and I certainly want it back, but I don't want anyone to miss the rent or fail to buy groceries--even RW



man this whole thing is just screwed up.....
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07-03-2008 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Perhaps this is the time to start thinking about where you're heading and what kind of cliff is at the end of this road.
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