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PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011 PokerStars will no longer offer Double or Nothing Sit & Go’s, Effective February 28th, 2011

02-10-2011 , 03:11 AM
Well I find I likely that the regular SNG players are happy with this decision since it will make traffic better for them.

I play on full tilt over party/ipoker/ongame since full tilt do not offer DONs.
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02-10-2011 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermion5
PS introduces 20bb-50bb tables
FTP never introduces them
PS removes them.

PS introduces DoNs
FTP never introduces them,
PS removes them.
FTP introduced 20-40 bb tables a long time ago.
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02-10-2011 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
when is ongame and party merging pls?
Party and Bwin approve merger
My guess is that the players will be merged to the PartyPoker software and network, improving the liquidity.
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02-10-2011 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
FTP introduced 20-40 bb tables a long time ago.
i thought they had 20bb-100bb and deep tables prior to the current setup. did they also have 20-40 along with the two i mentioned? my mistake if so.
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02-10-2011 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by justDgmt
lol


agree
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02-10-2011 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by curlyface
I've never played a single DoN in my life but I can imagine the collusion potential so maybe there is something stars can do to save these games rather then destroy them completely?

Why is it not possible to have 1 single DoN registration at each level (e.g 2.20, 4.40, w.e it is I don't even know the entry fees) while having 10+ "phantom" tourney's and a randomization tool which allocates each player to a random tourney in said entry fee. If stars could implement some sort of RNG software which takes into account players who have already sat at the same table this session or are already sitting at the same tables it could prevent the colluders from a tleast playing every single DoN at the same time, this will minimize their edge as they really don't know if they'll be in the same one and if they are, they won't be again for 5+ (random estimate here) DoN's.
They should make the tourneys start 10-15 minutes apart but you are still able to register to as many as you like this way it gives stars the opportunity to change up the player pools and gives players the ability to play as many as they would have anyway, maybe a little less but this could be the compromise stars and the regulars complaining in this thread make.

If these fill up as fast as you guys say, it will provide a greater challenge to colluding players to play in the same DoN as each other.

This is just a thought, I haven't really thought it through too much but maybe you guys could help stars come up with something that implements what I said as I feel like theres likely a flaw somewhere but as I said I haven't thought about it much since I don't really care whether these exist or not.

Complaining in this thread will not get you what you guys want. I'm sure stars has considered the cost-benefit analysis of this scenario and obviously the players they lose from this will not reduce their profits significantly enough or will provide them with less work to do in terms of security measures, etc. Seriously, if you do this for a living either figure out a way to fix it or figure out a new game because threatening a multi-billion dollar organization with your business will not get you what you want no matter the rake you provide them.

Also - stars know you have nowhere else to go
SHIP THREAD TO STARS
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02-10-2011 , 03:30 AM
it's funny you said car wreck because I got into one in the last week.
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02-10-2011 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermion5
i thought they had 20bb-100bb and deep tables prior to the current setup. did they also have 20-40 along with the two i mentioned? my mistake if so.
I believe they had 20-100, 100-250 bb and 30 bb cap then switched to their current setup of 20-40 bb, 40-100 bb, 100-250 bb and 30 bb cap.
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02-10-2011 , 03:53 AM
all you need is an aircard w/ non us ip addy. simple as that
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02-10-2011 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by xxIcemanxx
all you need is an aircard w/ non us ip addy. simple as that
What about that pesky little problem of furnishing a government ID, address (no PO boxes), and current utility bill most sites require before letting you cashout?
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02-10-2011 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by xxIcemanxx
all you need is an aircard w/ non us ip addy. simple as that
Getting a non US IP address is a cinch, there are plenty of sites that allow you to change your IP. Now, what this aircard you speak of? This has peaked my interest.
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02-10-2011 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
I'll be broke.
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Originally Posted by t_roy
So you're just gonna quit?
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
No

I don't think stars is worried about losing business to the change, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by magent
What about that pesky little problem of furnishing a government ID, address (no PO boxes), and current utility bill most sites require before letting you cashout?
Your VPN service provider doesn't give you those?
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02-10-2011 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
I don't think stars is worried about losing business to the change, that's for sure.
They'll lose my business if I can figure out how to illegally play on a non US site.
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02-10-2011 , 04:12 AM
internet on the go. as for ID for cashout that is not required of all players, but lets be serious if you really wanted to, who cannot make a fake id or take a utility bill and change its address? not that I am advocating that.
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02-10-2011 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by xxIcemanxx
internet on the go. as for ID for cashout that is not required of all players, but lets be serious if you really wanted to, who cannot make a fake id or take a utility bill and change its address? not that I am advocating that.
Oh, okay. Just forge up a government ID from the Ukraine and find a copy of a gas bill from that country and photoshop it. You 18?
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02-10-2011 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by magent
Oh, okay. Just forge up a government ID from the Ukraine and find a copy of a gas bill from that country and photoshop it. You 18?
If you fail, who's gonna come after you?
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02-10-2011 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by xxIcemanxx
internet on the go. as for ID for cashout that is not required of all players, but lets be serious if you really wanted to, who cannot make a fake id or take a utility bill and change its address? not that I am advocating that.
OK sounds good. Why do you have to use internet on the go? I know there are plenty of sites that allow you to change your IP at the drop of a dime. I've used them to get back onto message boards I've been banned on. One click of my mouse and I'm surfing the net on a Mexico IP adress in Spanish, why isn't that sufficient?

As for internet on the go, I know nothing about that. Does it work for desktops? Is the connection reliable?
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02-10-2011 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by t_roy
If you fail, who's gonna come after you?
Failure rate would be pretty high. That's the point.
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02-10-2011 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
As for internet on the go, I know nothing about that. Does it work for desktops? Is the connection reliable?
It's cellular internet service.
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02-10-2011 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by magent
Failure rate would be pretty high. That's the point.
It really wouldn't be if you put a lil effort into it. The PO box would obv be a pain but the documents should be super easy. It's not like you have to send stars the document. You just have to show them a bad quality scanned image. You're not very good at photoshop if you couldn't pull something like that off. The hard part would be getting a good vpn I think.
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02-10-2011 , 04:41 AM
@pokerstars

that´s a joke,right? are you serious?

if so,why? and why in seven days? i´m very disappointed about your kind of politics right now!

as other players already have stated out,if you want that we play the fifty50´s,then you must decrease the rake,because the playtime is shorter and the variance higher, there is no higher skill in the fifty50´s,only more luck and optimum play tends more the play of fishes,so the Roi will decrease tremendously for everyone,who try to grind them.

worst decision ever!
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02-10-2011 , 05:40 AM
RIP rs03rs03
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02-10-2011 , 05:47 AM
I complained to pokerstars and just got the standard sweep it under the carpet reply trying to convince me how good the fifty50's are...

The decision has been made and no matter what we say here or how many emails went send it wont get through to the top..

Something like a facebook page though might get some attention..
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02-10-2011 , 05:48 AM
Stars won't respond to the complaints! I'm afraid that this is an "Accept it or forget it!"-decision ...

So many poor decisions in such a short space of time! I'm very disappointed by Stars ...
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02-10-2011 , 06:19 AM
Stars standardized reply to any complaints about the situation:

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Hello *,

Thank you for emailing PokerStars about Fifty50 Sit & Go Tournaments.

We do agree that in Fifty50 Sit & Go tournaments it is possible to cash more
often than on Double or Nothing tournaments, and yet still show an overall
net loss. Unlike the old ‘Double or Nothing’ format these tournaments
reward not only survival but also chip accumulation.

Strategies optimized for Double or Nothing tournaments that focus solely on
survival may not be as successful in Fifty50 tournaments. However, in both
formats the sum total of all buy-ins is returned to players. While some
players are cashing for less than twice their buy-in when playing Fifty50s,
other players are earning this same amount extra. While some players and
strategies may not fare as well, others will fare better.

While it is understood that many players may miss the old Double or Nothing
format, improvements and changes to game formats are necessary from time to
time. While the loss of a familiar game format can be frustrating or
annoying initially, PokerStars is confident that Fifty50s will prove to be a
superior tournament format.

Thank you for playing at PokerStars. Please don’t hesitate to contact us if
you have any further questions or concerns.

Regards,

*
PokerStars Support Team
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