Is the minimum still $500?

yes

You guys get your panties in a wad when he mentions it, but theres a post like 3 posts up saying it too? lol

Just got home and have an email from 5:14pm with my pickup instructions, about 13 hours after cashing out. So awesome, will pick up my $$$ when I wake up!

Why is it a secret? Cliche 2p2 "hilarious" answers not needed.

There are two scenarios that have people convinced its bad to mention the proccessor name in a thread. I dont really agree either scenario is likely (though the second is more likely than the first), but i usually avoid mentioning the name just out of caution and not to be yelled at.

Lets say stars had contracted Schmeuls Wholesale Kosher Pickles inc to send players cashouts via western union.

scenario 1. Some DOJ flunkie is googling "online poker cashouts" and finds this thread on 2p2, and immediately brings the wrath of god down on Schmeuls Wholesale Kosher Pickles inc and WU.

Senario 2. Some exec from either Schmeuls Wholesale Kosher Pickles inc or WU is googling his company's name. Lo and behold, he finds a bunch of threads about how his company is involved in online poker cashouts. Well online poker cashouts are _illegal_ and while schmuel of the pres of WU might be willing to turn a blind eye and make money if they thought there was some sort of plausible deniability, theyre not as willing to do so if their association with online poker is plastered all over the internet. One company or the other changes their policy to block cashouts and now were down another proccessor.

wrong

Funny story though. I went to pick up my cashout at a walmart here in vegas today, and the old lady behind the counter looks at my green form with the sender and city on it, and says "so... you must play poker online." so i think the secret is kind of out

fixed my post. You might know that theyre legal, and I might know it. But schmuel and the vice president of compliance at WU might not be as certain, and might pull the plug just based on the fear of having the DOJ up their ass. Remember Epass.

I live in AZ with the $499 limit (some messed up state law), but I cashout $2500 and drive 25 miles to a CA town that has a Money Gram in a liquor store and have no problems.

Yesterday I cashed while I'm here in Vegas, and picked up in a Ace Cash Express (payday loan place). They gave me less of "the eye" than the Wal Mart employees do.

Plus at Ace Cash Express they offer to put any amount of my cashout on a prepaid Visa Dept Card for free if $200 or more. I liked that, although there is a $1 charge everytime I use the card.

I'm cashing out from Absolute Poker, but everything applies the same......except you seem to not get the $25 fee on Stars that AP charges me. Guess that's the price I pay to have a super user account.

100% Agreed. Not illegal, but there is a strong perception out there that they are. Blame the media for all this paranoia due to constant misreporting. That is why this person's #2 is so right. Barely anybody takes the time to study the nuances of Federal and State law so they just run scared when an incident such as #2 happens.

OR even if that CORP or BANK does understand the nuances, they are forced to bail because of the negative publicity associated with it all because they know others out there do not understand the NUANCES.

WTF

who's the idiot whos been telling the walmart employees what these transfers are for?
care to share which las vegas wal mart this was via pm?

Hey, I hope you didn't laugh and agree with the lady. Better to play dumb about it.

Obviously some idiots have been saying too much at this one particular location. Fortunately the person seems cool about it but there certainly will be many other spots where it would not be. This is rediculous that people would do that. So frustrating.

People WHY JEOPARDIZE something that HELPS YOU?? People love bragging that much?

I actually did laugh and agree with her. A transparent lie (and it would be transparent, she obviously knew what it was from) would bring a lot more negative attention than simply agreeing with her and taking the money.

I get your point, but I would have just smiled and taken the money without saying anything. But I guess it doesn't matter now since that store knows far too much now. I just hope people do not start being this carless elsewhere, especially in the States less carefree then Nevada.

cashed out at 5am this morning, details were in my inbox at 9:46am the same morning.

stars

Cashout request time: 2008/07/23 11:36:23

Cashout amount: $500.00

Has anyone deposited recently with this? Just wondering the total time it takes from the request to the money actually showing up.

LOL at You. So you think the $9/hr walmart employee who works the customer service desk at Wal Mart is going to crack the case and shut down cashouts to all 2,500+ stores in North America?

They are looking at "us" funny because they are used to dealing with white trash and illegals who are sending money home or receiving a couple hundo to get new tires or some ****. When a clean cut person walks in and receives cash, yea they are going to look at you funny, because 1.) they make 9 bucks an hour and thats more than they net in like 6 weeks and 2.) you probably dont fit the profile of a typical customer.

So you are saying going in and telling them exactly what this is for is a good idea?

If that is not what you mean then I have no clue what you are talking about. My post had nothing to do with why people get funny looks when they pick up money. My point is just shut your mouth when you do it regardless if you believe it is dangerous to do so or not.

I see nothing beneficial about a brag.

Is it likely? No. The problem is when you take an unlikely event and repeat the scenario that leads up to it over and over again, sooner or later the cumulative probability of that event happening becomes quite high.

They _are_ supposed to look at the transactions they do for potential illegal activity. And it is perfectly feasible that sooner or later some $9 an hour CSR is going to mention something to some $14 an hour asst manager who is going to bring his concerns to someone who actually makes a salary and could potentially screw things up.

I'm not saying that everyone should go all patrick mcgoohan when they go to pick up their cashouts. But online poker players as a community should think twice before they make a habit of rolling up to the customer service desk and saying "look at all the PHAT LEWT im making playing poker on the interweb! I am so sick.. SHIP ME MY POKER MONIES BABY" because sooner or later that type of thing _is_ going to have reprecussions.

Post neteller, for any US payment proccessor in the market, be it Epass, or the ACH proccessors, or cash refund, the willingness of that proccessor to remain in the market is directly correlated to the ability of that proccessor to avoid getting attention about remaining in the market. They wont go to jail for us. They wont risk DOJ troubles for us. They won't even risk the _appearance_ of the possibility of DOJ troubles. Epass, everyone's great white hope for standing up to the governenment and staying in the market in spite of government pressure, sold us all down the river when the DOJ _sent them a letter_. The fact is that any way you can get your money off a poker site right now is precarious... and it wont take a lot to screw it up. Thats not worth LOLing about.

No I dont think you should walk in and announce the source. Just funny how you think that the whole process is in jeopardy if the clerk says something about the source. Of course you should just keep your mouth shut and wait for the transaction to be completed.

Phat answer senjitsu!

BobbyM I don't care if you agree with my concerns or not as long as you agree people should shut up when they get their cash. Everybody wins here.

14.5 hours from cashout to details. Woot. Stars rocks.

Cashout request: 12:04 AM
Cashout details received: 10:45 AM