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10-20-2013 , 06:27 PM
Any succesfull cash out from old play2b network? or play2bstar network?

Post here if you got some news ....

This italian scammers... hope they all disapear :d
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10-21-2013 , 01:45 PM
Waiting 4 month now, 6k€ goalwin
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10-21-2013 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherconmee
Sorry, but thats an incredibly high amount, are you serious? Cant believe that its Even possible to accumulate so much even when you are a winning player. Gilben the fact that there are only low Limit games...
sorry my man, i play high stakes, 250-500 and 500-1000 so it happens some times

I had a question guys, while ongame has different skins and does not seem to be helping with goalwin...it is still part of their network and reflects poorly on them. They are attempting to enter the New Jersey pool while this is looming and hoping it just goes away. Also, the guys at the top are from the UB/AP team...I was wondering what you thought if I were to bring it to the attention of New Jersey news to get the word out on it...ongame suffers to lose out on quite a bit if their NJ reputation is instantly tarnished and it may force their hand some as they should certainly be held responsible as a whole. It seems us poker players accept this as normal now and don't push hard enough, curious what others think.
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10-21-2013 , 08:54 PM
I somhow am confused...is poker mambo, play2b, ongame and goal win all the same? I thought play2b was the network, like ongame is, and poker mambo is just a scin, which is offering playing in the play2b network (which doesn't exist anymore ?). Or am I wrong?
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10-21-2013 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherconmee
I somhow am confused...is poker mambo, play2b, ongame and goal win all the same? I thought play2b was the network, like ongame is, and poker mambo is just a scin, which is offering playing in the play2b network (which doesn't exist anymore ?). Or am I wrong?
I played on pokersens(play2b network)

and when i received a cashout long time ago in skrill transaction details apears goalgaming so i think goalwin payed me .
But now i dont see any play2b poker on goalwin site.

So i am so confused . I send 4 emails to pokersens and nobody seems to tell me something.

This bastards stole my money. What a bouch of thieves.
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10-23-2013 , 01:07 PM
Hey all, I created a thread in NvG as this needs much more attention. The link is here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../#post40710270
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10-23-2013 , 01:42 PM
I am waiting 4 months, about 200€ Goalwin. First two months in transaction history Transaction
status was Pending, last two months its Granted and there is no money on my credit card
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10-23-2013 , 02:04 PM
Goalgaming Ltd is the company behind Pokermambo, Kickmyace, Goalwin and few other sites.

Play2b was designed as a network by Goalgaming to let PIV players clear funds and get them paid, however this obv failed hardtimes.

To sum it up, the company in charge of your funds and operating the skins above is Goalgaming Ltd.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-23-2013 at 03:34 PM.
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10-23-2013 , 02:09 PM
yeah Kagome, all of my withdrawals to my 40k euros changed from Pending to Granted also with no received funds
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10-23-2013 , 02:23 PM
Are all these unpaid withdrawals relating to play2b? If so, I think it's pretty far-fetched to blame Ongame, as it's likely they've paid everything they owe.

Sure, they should suspend the operator, but to "blackmail" them into paying your €40k owed by another network is a bit over the top imo
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10-23-2013 , 02:25 PM
A.ndree is right about certain things, but he isn't right about why play2b was created.

Play2b was created as Goalgaming's standalone network to try and push more liquidity into their own hands instead of having to rely on networks paying.

The network was launched in December/January and was integrated into piv skins and other third party skins by march.

When **** hit the fan with PIV, Goalgaming/Play2b did find a solution to try and help players, however it was very miserable and didn't work out.

When Goalgaming says that they are waiting for play2b to settle payments to them, its a load of bulls*it as they are the network owners. They might be waiting for settlements from third party skins or the revolution network, but not Play2b at least.
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10-23-2013 , 03:28 PM
owed over 30k euro...

Does anybody know any names of people involved with goalgaming?
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10-23-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket
yeah Kagome, all of my withdrawals to my 40k euros changed from Pending to Granted also with no received funds
+1
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10-23-2013 , 03:34 PM
still waiting for 10k since june
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10-23-2013 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ancelotti4
Are all these unpaid withdrawals relating to play2b? If so, I think it's pretty far-fetched to blame Ongame, as it's likely they've paid everything they owe.

Sure, they should suspend the operator, but to "blackmail" them into paying your €40k owed by another network is a bit over the top imo
going public with it is not blackmailing, it is getting answers instead of being a normal poker player and just letting them steal.

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Originally Posted by Penders
A.ndree is right about certain things, but he isn't right about why play2b was created.

Play2b was created as Goalgaming's standalone network to try and push more liquidity into their own hands instead of having to rely on networks paying.

The network was launched in December/January and was integrated into piv skins and other third party skins by march.

When **** hit the fan with PIV, Goalgaming/Play2b did find a solution to try and help players, however it was very miserable and didn't work out.

When Goalgaming says that they are waiting for play2b to settle payments to them, its a load of bulls*it as they are the network owners. They might be waiting for settlements from third party skins or the revolution network, but not Play2b at least.
Thanks a bunch for this, what does PIV stand for btw? DO you mind posting this in the NvG thread I posted that is more visible to everyone. Thanks.
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10-23-2013 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyrocket
going public with it is not blackmailing, it is getting answers instead of being a normal poker player and just letting them steal.
I just find it weird that you go on a crusade after Ongame when all points to play2b being behind on payments. Wouldn't Visa/MC & Ewallets be just as bad as Ongame then?
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10-24-2013 , 12:25 AM
^^ I think this is the trouble with networks in general, a diffusion of responsibility.

But the fact is, the ongame network allowed a rogue operator (two actually) associated w/play2b into their network. They unequivocally have some responsibility. Blackmail as you guys put it has nothing to do with it.
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10-24-2013 , 05:02 AM
Goalwin has been on Ongame since 2008, you're suggesting Ongame should've thrown them out the second they caught wind of Goalwin's play2b network launch last year?

I agree that Ongame has some responsibility, in the sense that they should at least suspend Goalwin until players are paid from the play2b debacle, but I can't find a single reason as to why they should have to pay for mistakes of Goalwin that they have nothing to do with.
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10-24-2013 , 05:42 AM
Ongame shouldn't have thrown out Goalwin for creating their own network, but should not have allowed Goalwin/Goalgaming to partner up with a insolvent partner such as pokerinvenice that just brought a lot more regulars to the network, did high under the table rakeback deals and who were not able to pay their losses to the network.

Now that it seems like Goalwin/Goalgaming doesn't have money to pay their players either, the network shouldn't allow the site to continue. Especially when we all know that Goalwin is a the biggest under the table rakeback skin on the Ongame network.
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10-28-2013 , 01:39 AM
As far as Ongame goes, allowing skins to operate on your network without proof that they have player funds is irresponsible and shows that you're putting money before player safety.

Otherwise, I don't see an issue with skins having operations on multiple networks.

And while the play2b thing might end up being a major reason, a lot of evidence points towards pokermambo (revolution) being a major problem too.
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10-28-2013 , 11:28 AM
I sent another email yesterday, because it's been 120 days since my cashout request and received this reply (which I think it's the same answer someone posted here a while ago).

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Dear Ivan,

We have some news regarding your pending withdrawals in our site, PokerMambo. Unfortunately, we have not been able to process your withdrawals owing to the fact that our Network providers are having difficulties clearing the settlements our agreement stipulates.

Over the past few months our company has continued to guarantee all immediate withdrawals with use of its own financial resources under the agreement that the network providers would solve the issues according to an acceptable timeframe.

Due to the fact this has not happened, we have come to the decision to temporarily suspend all activity on those networks forcing the same, also via the relevant gaming authorities, to honour their commitment towards us as soon as possible.

We are hoping to be able to give you some positive news soon.

If you have any questions or suggestions feel free to contact us.

Please accept our deepest apologies.

Best regards

The PokerMambo Team
So I think all we can do is pray...
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10-30-2013 , 08:01 PM
So nobody have received a cash out recently?

Nobody have any inside info!?
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10-30-2013 , 09:21 PM
Today I recived email from pokermambo:

Hello,
Unfortunately, we experience delays with withdrawal processing. We will get back to you once we have an update.
Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused.
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10-30-2013 , 09:52 PM
just to give heads up about an ongame skin thats paying on time - PokerLoco.
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10-31-2013 , 11:25 AM
Hi guys,

I am working like affiliate from 2006. Few players from my community ask me to help and send me this topic.

We have a situation here and I am looking to help. Facts are:

1. my players do not get cashouts into last 3-4 months
2. my commission also is in pending from June
3. emails from GoalWin and Mabo say similar things
4. etc etc

What we do till now:

1. email to LGA Malta
2. email to Ongame Network
3. email to Revolution Network

Nobody answer into last month! I suppose they cover each other.

I have all contacts details about GoalWin and Mambo owners and looking to find a lawyer who can help all players to get their funds.

There is anybody who can help? These people deserve to respond for their actions!

Thanks for your attention.
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