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Player from Chico Network that can see cards of opponents? Player from Chico Network that can see cards of opponents?

06-22-2016 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by coinflipper
Post the hands, without it posts like these are useless.
What kind of specific hands do you want to see? I can upload every single hand I have, but what it will give to you? There is almost no sense in uploading a few hands with strange showdowns or something like that, we must combine our hands vs him and show his wins % when he saw flop and wins % on the river showdowns. You do understand that the guy didn't make a single call with the worst hand on the river? not even once against me. How is that possible playing lot of hands in 20-30bb stacks, when you forced to make thin calls, taking into consideration that he made some "really thin godlike" calls, with 8 high vs 6 high bluff.
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06-22-2016 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shunyok
You do understand that the guy didn't make a single call with the worst hand on the river?
We understand that, but it's the type of claim which needs to be substantiated. Posting full sessions / tournaments, not just individual hands, would be a good start.
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06-22-2016 , 01:59 PM
I use Free Poker DB to collect my hands on BOL its just like a simplified free open source version of PokerTracker, gives you all the same stats and has a hud ect. Anyone with hands against the guy should get it and import all their HHs and we can start seeing some real stats
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06-22-2016 , 02:53 PM
I use kings hands to import hands from tigergaming. I can review hands if someone wants it. PM me
I guess we should post more hands to prove it... i guess calling all in pre flop with 87off vs 86off (shove) and calls with 8high in 10 10 Q A.. isnt this enough? i mean several players complained and some guys here still doesnt believe?

It's kinda obvious that its hard to get a "hand" that proves that he can see cards. But i guess zero bad calls in river its ridiculous.

And its look like tigergaming (chico) doesnt care about it. Asked today in live chat if they had news.. they said they didnt found anything wrong. I'm probably going to stop playing there (at least HU).. cause this is 100% cheating. I dont have any doubts. I can help if someone have interesting hands to show it. Still dont get it.. several players of HU cash were affected and they dont share hands or something.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 06-22-2016 at 03:42 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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06-22-2016 , 03:24 PM
why is that you havnt posted the evidence?

if you have 8,000 hands vs the susptected player post all 8,000 hands.

im guessing the real number is closer to a couple hundred. post them all

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Originally Posted by sixfour
What is posting a hand where hero is behind on every street and calls/bluff shoves off his stack supposed to achieve
since this was lost on both you an the op and maybe others in the thread.

- the hands is played on pokerstars vs the villian in question. showing that he also plays other networks and apparently does not have a fold button.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 06-22-2016 at 03:42 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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06-22-2016 , 03:49 PM
This is what online poker has become
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06-22-2016 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by coinflipper
- the hands is played on pokerstars vs the villian in question. showing that he also plays other networks and apparently does not have a fold button.
No, the hands is not played on pokerstars.
My converter of chico use pokerstars.

All hands are played in CHICO network(tigergaming BOL)
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06-22-2016 , 05:40 PM
Please tell me this is incorrect... Since I let OLDMAN ****n coffee playing on my account and he talked about what I thought was just stupid **** at the time.... then I make him stiop and I am going to play myself except it isn't for much money lol......
**** I don't care since I dont play heads up and have withdrawn several hundred while hardly playing myself..... BOL better respond... ***** ***********

Last edited by Mike Haven; 06-23-2016 at 05:06 AM.
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06-22-2016 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokuan
Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $664.50 (110.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $733 (122.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qd Jc
Hero raises to $15, BB calls $9

Flop: ($30) 8c Ad Kh (2 players)
BB bets $22.50, Hero calls $22.50

Turn: ($75) Jd (2 players)
BB bets $55.13, Hero calls $55.13

River: ($185.26) 2h (2 players)
BB bets $91.88, Hero raises to $640.37 and is all-in, BB calls $479.99 and is all-in

Results: $1,329 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 8c Ad Kh Jd 2h
BB showed 5s Ks and won $1,327.50 ($663 net)
Hero showed Qd Jc and lost (-$664.50 net)

vs damjanoid
this is the post im referring to OP, or is this you posting on another account?
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06-22-2016 , 05:50 PM
We will see what time it is at live poker.... *** I wish i lived where BOL HQ is .
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06-22-2016 , 05:51 PM
that hand was played on chico network! a program that he had convert the hand equal to pokerstars system!


WE are talking (this topic) about a player(s) who can see cards in CHICO network. Nothing to do with pokerstars
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06-22-2016 , 06:54 PM
What i dont understand is why doesnt he just outplay you normally without being so obv ? ****** ******
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06-22-2016 , 07:12 PM
Hey Loco!how are things going at PKR nowdays?U still running like the ****ing Sun?
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06-22-2016 , 08:41 PM
I was just gonna play BOL tonight. I'll wait and see how this pans out. If there's two then there could be a whole team on the inside. So far this is just like the Absolute scandal. Including the company denying to the customer and not addressing it publicly at the beginning and then more denial, finally to be followed by an apology, or sort of.
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06-22-2016 , 09:30 PM
crispoker10, shunyok, and proudad all claim to have hands they can post here as evidence (the latter 2 accounts created recently and only posting in this thread with same writing style as op but whatever probably coincidence) but no one is doing anything???

-with the AP scandal there was a massive database with tons of hands.
-itt we have 3 suspect hands and a 4th totally standard hand. but nothing overly obvious.
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06-22-2016 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coinflipper
crispoker10, shunyok, and proudad all claim to have hands they can post here as evidence (the latter 2 accounts created recently and only posting in this thread with same writing style as op but whatever probably coincidence) but no one is doing anything???

-with the AP scandal there was a massive database with tons of hands.
-itt we have 3 suspect hands and a 4th totally standard hand. but nothing overly obvious.
shunyok is a regular of HUs 200/300s. You can search him on sharkscope. whats your point btw? you are talking like a ****** idiot and you re talking ****. this topic only started 2 days ago. more regs who were affected will post their hands.

Like i said its hard to get a "hand" but the ones that we have its clearly cheating. The hands that we have is not obvious? Jesus
call all in pre with 87off when the other reg have 86off, is this real? and call down river with 8high?

Last edited by crispoker10; 06-22-2016 at 10:49 PM.
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06-23-2016 , 03:15 AM
I am playing HU on chico too, and had the same experience against damjanoid. I could not win and I felt that something was wrong. Guys played more against him know it better. I know they are good regs and has played lot of hands.

I tried to analize these hands because I do not want to say to a move that it is bad, or good, I wanted to understand it.

At first it is possible that someone can play higher level, and make moves what is hard to understand, but in this case the player has approx "normal" stats. Damjanoid has a stat like a typical fish [high donk, min3bet]. His stats and bet sizes does not show that he is a competent player.

and

If someone calls full stack for more than 1.5k with 2nd pair no kicker, he must have at least 2-3 bad calls. But he has not.

As I remember Sunny plays with similar stats like damjanoid. I played about 300 hand against him, and do not remember the first 200, but yesterday I played vs him [of course high stakes husng ] and in the last 2 match he lost with bad calls on river, so anyway yesterday he surely didn't see the cards.

I hope tiger will do something, because I have a lot of money @ damjanoid.
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06-23-2016 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by th13f45
...HU on chico [...] Damjanoid has a stat like typical fish [high donk, min3bet] [...] stats and bet sizes not competent player [...] Sunny plays with similar stats like damjanoid. I played about 300 hand against him...
Who brought you to this thread? Is there a network of you first time posters who play Damjanoid & Sunny in HUSNG?

Please post these stats for the two players here
And also stats for typical players in the same HUSNG stakes as a comparison

Why is nobody doing this already in this thread?
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06-23-2016 , 06:53 AM
all russians probably. they use other forum
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06-23-2016 , 09:02 PM
Can the victims confirm that you've all recently done an online anti-malware check (e.g. with Avast or ESET) and got the all clear? To me, this still sounds like Odlanor has been re-coded to work on Chico instead of Stars/FTP. That malware/spyware was propagated by hackers in Eastern European countries like Montenegro. A random hacker probably wouldn't know that his plays make no sense or look very suspicious, whereas a pokersite insider would presumably be aware that the best cheating method is one that is well disguised and doesn't win every time.

If you've got some tracker results showing just how often the alleged superuser wins at showdown, that would be pretty compelling evidence too.
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06-24-2016 , 12:15 AM
i play 5-10 6max and never seen these guys, would prolly be too obvious if someone was cheating in 6max in front of so many people i guess thats why

Still make me insecure about playing there, cant believe hes still able to play after all these hand histories..
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06-24-2016 , 12:37 AM
As much as I tend to believe that op is correct, at the end of the day he needs more than 4 hands. It shouldn't be that difficult to import the hands you've played with him. Also, 4 other accounts joining this month, with their first and only posts being in this thread, and also having broken English like op really isn't helping his cause lulz
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06-24-2016 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NicestoryiCALL
i play 5-10 6max and never seen these guys, would prolly be too obvious if someone was cheating in 6max in front of so many people i guess thats why

Still make me insecure about playing there, cant believe hes still able to play after all these hand histories..
all what hand histories? we have 5 people posting in this thread claiming there is a superuser, and they have provided a whopping 4 HH's combined, 1 of which is a totally standard hand and the first 3 are just suspicious, but not concrete proof.

with 5 people should be able to pool a couple hundred HH's, that could provide the nail in the coffin, this story would be front page of the various poker/gambling news sites but so far its just been a severely underwhelming thread.

op says the other players are russian, is there a more active thread on this topic on gypsyteam forum?
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06-24-2016 , 05:41 AM
I'm working on getting all the hands played by these 2 accounts. Once I do get something, a sample worth sharing, I will post the whole package. However, there are numerous hands that are ultra suspicious as well, which didn't see showdown. Because there vere raises, reraises, 4 and 5 bets....of course with 100% success
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06-24-2016 , 07:23 AM
Is this site tracked by any of the monitoring sites? One of the most damning pieces of evidence in UB was showing the super users win rates vs VPIP which showed them to be 20 standard deviations out or whatever.
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