i believe bovada deposit options are either credit/debit card or western union. if you go into the cashier it should have some info, and they also have a toll free phone number to call and those folks are pretty helpful

not sure what you mean about bovada transfers - do you mean deposits or withdrawals maybe?

yes sealswithclubs has low traffic

other usa options (depending on what state you live in) include the merge network (i'd recommend carbon poker), winning poker network (i'd recommend black chip poker or americas card room), and intertops (via invite only, on the revolution network). it depends a bit on what stakes/games/etc you wanna play

there's no set time/number of posts to unlock PMs - but please don't just go make a bunch of posts as the mods will probably infract/ban you for circumventing the PM rules . just go about your normal posting habits and hopefully it won't be too long. some folks also have their contact info in their profile if you are trying to contact them.

i do see poker trades for interac, which is a canadian bank transfer i believe, as well as other stuff sometimes. not sure on the others.

WPN check cashouts are fine and usually take 4-6 weeks. their transfers are fine - you can receive transfers right away on a new account, and i believe you have to verify your account (send them ID and proof of address) before you can send transfers or do a withdrawal

will they ask that there is substantial playthrough or do they not really care? I know poker sites dont like being used as banks. Just trying to get some insight into what problems may occur if any.

I got my account verified already. Just worried about cashout times, cant really wait 3 weeks for cashouts when the bills keep coming like clockwork.

i'm not sure of the playthrough requirements and not sure if they are published anywhere or not. i do know you need to play some and pay some rake before they let you transfer through a lot of money. not sure if the requirements vary from person to person or if they are standard. i think it'd be safe to assume that you need to pay a decent amount of rake before moving a decent amount of money. sorry i can't offer a more concrete percentage. maybe something like 50% playthrough would be on the very safe side?

you can talk to live chat or call their toll free number and maybe they'd be able to give more advice

Hi rocksolid83

From your posts so far, no offence intended, but you appear to be very new and naive and just the type of potential transferor that the lurking scammers who prey on easy targets will contact as soon as you post your requirements.

Please make sure you read and understand all of this post: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...25&postcount=1, before you post.

The petty-thieves will tell you anything that they think you would like to hear in order that you give them your money, and they will even stoop to trying to steal minimal amounts that you may regard as pocket-change.

Please take care; and I wish you good luck.

Well I get to post my first ever p2p ripoff report. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...stcount=150086
I initially misunderstood that Chris21 trader had an actual Vanilla Visa gift card, not a Vanilla reload, until he sent first and it was a card number/exp date/three digit code. I had no idea what I could do with a gift card and was going to initially back out of the trade because of the misunderstanding. However, I felt like that wouldn't be the standup thing to do on my end, considering he already pm'd me the gift card info, exposing himself to ripoff risk and the misunderstanding was at least partly my fault. So I confirmed the card balance online, sent him the BCP funds, completing the trade and figured I'd figure out something to do with the gift card online at some point.

That was 7/13, I go to use the card for an online purchase on 7/18, gets declined, check the balance it's now $0. I contact card CS they say it was a point of sale transaction on 7/15, meaning the physical card was used, I contact Chris21 via pm to give him a chance to explain before I report, he says not trying to scam me over $20, he just used the gift card that day because he didn't have his bank card on him and he will reimburse me through gdmp or other method "no later than tomorrow", 7/19. Today is 7/20 and I haven't received any contact from Chris21 since 7/18 around 9pm est.

Cliffs; Completed a $20 Vanilla Visa gift card trade for BCP with Chris21/BCP(Saltyfishie), Chris21 used all the funds on gift card after the trade, before I ever used it, admitted to doing it in pm, apologized and stated he would reimburse me no later than the next day/yesterday but didn't.

Odd..

Hardly seems worth it for $20. I completed a $55 gmp with him just a few days ago with no problems..

Yeah I noticed that, was trying to see how that might fit in with him even bothering to reply to my pm about using the card and claiming to reimburse me but your trade was on 7/16, I didn't pm Chris21 until 7/18. Though the gift card charge he made was 7/15, so after using the card he was able to get a gdmp to purchase 5Dimes from you but apparently not get a $20 gdmp to reimburse me. Guess he just figured I might never actually use the gift card, considering our pms where I told him I would have to find some way of using it.

Either he actually intends to payback the $20 but something came up or he didn't want it reported just yet for some reason, with no intention to repay, either way I felt the correct thing to do was to go ahead and put the facts of the trade out there. FYI, there was a $300 transaction that was going to originally take place after the $20 trade but then I realized after the first trade it was Vanilla Visa gift cards, not Vanilla reloads.

The thing for me is that if there really was no intention of a scam, why use that gift card under any circumstances. That's like trading some kind of reload pack, then the other trader informs you that they can't load it right away, so you wait a couple days then try to reload it on your own card. You might be apologetic afterwards but that's definitely scamming, lol.

fwiw he told me the same thing about a $300 afterwards, but it never happened. I'd assume the intention is to repay, considering it's $20...

gotta post it when things get weird, nothing wrong with that.

This is the guy who posted: so he was already on our watch-list.

I have temp-banned him for 7 days. If he hasn't repaid you by then, he'll be permabanned.

I'm not really sure how the whole "temp-ban" things work so maybe you can clarify. My only communication with Chris21 was/is through 2+2 so how exactly can he repay me if he can't post on 2+2? Is there some way for him to contact a Mod even though temp-banned and they pass on the repayment info or what? Again just trying to understand how getting repaid would be possible, all things considered.

Most people exchange e-mail and/or Skype addresses once they "meet" via PM.

In your case, PM me your e-mail address and I'll have it e-mailed to him.

Hello, this is a question for Canadians using the BCP/ACR debit card for cashouts. I applied for the debit card they offer however it seems everything is in USD. I assume you cant just go to the cash machine and Canada and withdraw USD so I am wondering what anyone who uses the card from Canada does in order to get the funds out with the least amount of fees possible. Thanks for the insight.

Aturningit banned again? We have been regular trading partners and I just realized he was perm-banned when I went to respond to a pm of his I received on another trade we were trying to get done.. Anyone know what happened with this poster?

-John

^^ Was their another trading issue? Or was this the same one from before? If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago he was involved in a trade with another poster where he didn't pay for a while after the agreed upon timeframe.

That's what I'm trying to figure out, I remember they temp-banned him until he completed his end of the trade which he eventually did but after that I thought everything was ok.... Unless there was another issue we don't know about.

He was banned for another, (although related), reason, but I would certainly recommend that no one deals with him again.

my greendot account has been locked for suspicious activity, i have only made trades with aturningit and paid my comcast bill. any chance these are related?

Gdmp is notorious for closing accounts. Try netspend instead. Plus u can do p2p amd loads are cheaper.
dan

Yes I just recommended vanilla/netspend to him also, green dot closes people's account for some strange reason when there are frequent reloads within a short period of time, had this happen to a friend of mine.

Seems like a reasonable possibility.

here's an old post about gdmp daily/weekly limits that trigger checks:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=189

Yeah Green Dot bans people a lot for the slightest... especially use of loading GDMPs.

I am 99% sure this has nothing to do with aturningit. I suggest loading your GDMPs to PayPal or Serve.. Also, get a NetSpend card/account. PM me and I will help you out with doing this.

-DS

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