Ah, okay, i thought he was like "why do I have this guys money in my poker account?"

:

In other words, if you wish to pursue this, go ahead. If the authorities require the information we have, they can contact site management, who will proceed accordingly.

There has been a recent deluge of 2+2 accounts hacked as a result of password guesses.

They had weak passwords such as 123456, 4444, the same as the username, etc.

These compromised accounts, as old as 9 years with as many as 16,000 posts, were used to scam fellow 2+2ers and are permanently banned.
There is no recourse and no justification for losing control of an account in such a manner.



The following 2+2 accounts were recently hacked via weak passwords:

PaperEmpire - $7k Lock theft
surfdoc - $790 Netspend theft
Zamees - $3k Lock scam
gimmetheloot - $2k MoneyBookers theft
babar86 - was hacked and used to PM phony trade references for Zamees and surfdoc



related Justin Archuleta scams
Nov 27/12 - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=19366
July 4/12 - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...uleta-1218338/


verified and unverified info

Justin E. Archuleta
Netspend card number is 4046214477068089
Netspend username is bossman222
Chase quick pay name - Justin Archuleta
Location - Texas
Lock email - Anthonys915@yahoo.com
Lock email - zeezee21@yahoo.com
Lock email - dannlon@hotmail.de

MB/Skrill account - pokertraders@gmail.com - name is Jason Wells
BCP - mycargo160
Cake or Lock - SinBad2332
Carbon - TripleSeas, TakinSips
Pstars - IGotThis521
aim- akarchie23
Twitter - @Archie2332
Skype - tigerstripes46, john stewart, joemay, john.doja1
email - archuletajustin@gmail.com
Big_Vincent803@yahoo.com
phone - 720 999 xxxx (# posted by ebet33)



Verified
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This is my other account, and yes that was me. I told him that I was sorry that this had happened and that I had contacted the people at moneybookers, posted in this thread and was in touch with RW and was willing to have anybody reputable look through my records and computer and skype logs to compare chats or whatever else but that I didnt feel I was liable for any of the money stolen from him and this ******* essentially told me I had no morals and was a sociopath for it. So I told him to go **** himself. I have done business with a ton of people on 2p2 in the past and very, very rarely have had any problems whatsoever. Admitting that I should have had better passwords is a far cry from admitting guilt in this spot.

He has decided that since I told him to piss off for being a right *******, that I had 'made it personal' and he is going to sue me for negligence.

Good luck with that.

Ill post our skype convo and you can see who is an ******* first.

Doncolo, yeah that wasnt me.

Also, RW, if I cant have my GTL SN back, can I possibly have an undertitle saying 'Gimmetheloot'?


This is from the first sentence I said to the guy:

[1/14/2013 7:39:26 PM] Jason Wells: hey man
[1/14/2013 7:39:32 PM] Jason Wells: when did we have this conversation?
[1/14/2013 7:53:31 PM] *** Call to mikedegilio, no answer. ***
[1/14/2013 8:28:05 PM] Jason Wells: hey
[1/14/2013 8:32:00 PM] Jason Wells: Hi mikedegilio! I’d like to add you on Skype. Jason Wells
[1/14/2013 10:14:35 PM] mikedegilio: hey
[1/14/2013 10:14:38 PM] mikedegilio: you here?
[1/14/2013 10:22:19 PM] Jason Wells: ey just got back man
[1/14/2013 10:22:28 PM] Jason Wells: did you have that convo with me today?
[1/14/2013 10:22:34 PM] Jason Wells: or is that months old?
[1/14/2013 10:23:16 PM] Jason Wells: [8:45:06 AM] Jason Wells: yo
[8:45:15 AM] mikedegilio: hey
[8:45:48 AM] Jason Wells: money is on the way?
[8:46:03 AM] mikedegilio: yea
[8:46:42 AM] Jason Wells: got it
[8:46:51 AM] mikedegilio: k cool
[8:46:57 AM] Jason Wells: i will write down ur details and will let u know when i managed to make the transfer
[8:47:00 AM] Jason Wells: i will do it in person
[8:47:12 AM] Jason Wells: ill be arround
[8:47:12 AM] Jason Wells: @ skype
[8:47:18 AM] Jason Wells: 24/7
[8:47:21 AM] Jason Wells: later mate
[8:48:07 AM] mikedegilio: ok thx
[7:07:07 PM] Jason Wells: yoo money is on the way! keep me updated
[7:07:23 PM] mikedegilio: will do. thx
[1/14/2013 10:25:02 PM] mikedegilio: today
[1/14/2013 10:25:09 PM] Jason Wells: mother ****er
[1/14/2013 10:25:09 PM] mikedegilio: i sent 2k on MB
[1/14/2013 10:25:15 PM] Jason Wells: ****************
[1/14/2013 10:25:21 PM] mikedegilio: to pokertraders@gmail.com
[1/14/2013 10:25:24 PM] mikedegilio: Jason Wells
[1/14/2013 10:25:26 PM] Jason Wells: yep thats not me man
[1/14/2013 10:25:32 PM] Jason Wells: i have no clue who that is
[1/14/2013 10:25:37 PM] mikedegilio: how are both your 2p2 and skype hacked?
[1/14/2013 10:25:54 PM] Jason Wells: tbh i have the laziest password in the world
[1/14/2013 10:25:59 PM] mikedegilio: i have rainbow warrior trying to get the transaction reversed
[1/14/2013 10:26:02 PM] Jason Wells: and its the same for both
[1/14/2013 10:26:06 PM] mikedegilio: who is liable for this if he can't fix it?
[1/14/2013 10:26:45 PM] Jason Wells: i have no clue, but i can tell you for sure that im not paying you for it, i had nothing to do with it and tried to take care of it literally the second i saw it
[1/14/2013 10:26:59 PM] mikedegilio: ****ed up
[1/14/2013 10:27:09 PM] mikedegilio: hopefully he can fix this
[1/14/2013 10:27:10 PM] Jason Wells: i will contact moneybookers and see if they can help
[1/14/2013 10:27:16 PM] mikedegilio: that isn't your MB account?
[1/14/2013 10:27:19 PM] Jason Wells: im sure he already has but i will as well
[1/14/2013 10:27:20 PM] Jason Wells: no
[1/14/2013 10:27:27 PM] Jason Wells: mine is xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail
[1/14/2013 10:27:37 PM] mikedegilio: bleh
[1/14/2013 10:28:02 PM] mikedegilio: really dumb if somehow i'm liable and get ****ed out of 2k b.c someone else gets hacked
[1/14/2013 10:28:08 PM] mikedegilio: but we will see
[1/14/2013 10:28:47 PM] Jason Wells: i feel you but im sure you can see how i dont really feel i owe you anything either
[1/14/2013 10:29:15 PM] mikedegilio: not going to get into an argument over it now
[1/14/2013 10:29:21 PM] mikedegilio: idk what is standard in these situations
[1/14/2013 10:29:32 PM] mikedegilio: will see if he can fix it
[1/14/2013 10:29:48 PM] Jason Wells: yeah its a first for me as well, im open to doing anything RW wants me to do to prove it wasnt me etc etc
[1/14/2013 10:29:56 PM] mikedegilio: k thx
[1/14/2013 10:30:10 PM] Jason Wells: can i have your MB to include in my report to MB
[1/14/2013 10:32:02 PM] mikedegilio: xxxxxxxxx@gmail.com
[1/14/2013 10:32:34 PM] Jason Wells: thanks, if you could tell RW to send me an email at xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com so we can communicate about this that would be awesome as well
[1/14/2013 10:36:33 PM] mikedegilio: ok i did
[1/14/2013 10:36:49 PM] Jason Wells: thanks, sorry this happened i hope it works out :/
[3:06:16 AM] mikedegilio: doesn't look like i'm going to be getting this money back
[3:07:59 AM] mikedegilio: you here?
[3:08:34 AM] Jason Wells: heym im sorry to hear that man
[3:08:48 AM] mikedegilio: you don't feel responsible at all for this?
[3:10:07 AM] Jason Wells: responsible, no. was I a bit negligent with keeping my passwords secure, yeah, but i didnt scam you, and did what I could to have the situation resolved the second the problem was known to me
[3:11:31 AM] mikedegilio: alright well all i have to go on is chat logs with your 2p2 username and your skype account. idk what happened, but i sure as hell am not liable for trading with a trusted 2p2 user. will be submitting chat transcripts from skype and 2p2 to my lawyer and we'll take it from there
[3:12:34 AM] mikedegilio: if someone were using my accounts to take advantage of people, i would feel responsible, but that's just me
[3:12:41 AM] Jason Wells: ok man, do what you gotta do, i expect moneybookers can do an IP trace and 2p2 can also see where accounts were logged in from but ill tell you there is no chance im paying you for something that i didnt do
[3:12:59 AM] mikedegilio: shows character
[3:13:01 AM] mikedegilio: gl
[3:13:11 AM] Jason Wells: yeah u know so mcuh about me buddy
[3:13:13 AM] Jason Wells: **** yourself

Originally Posted By jkidd1084

you really going to hire a lawyer to get back 2k you were dumb enough to send to an anonymous poker player you knew nothing about other than his track record.

Seems you ship very soft, can I pls have your s/n on ever site you play at

I am really confused on your chat here. You are Jason Wells correct? If so why did you come out right away and say this? The chat must not be complete right? Now I don't know what the right thing to do is but people need to be more careful in trading as scammers seem to be on the rise.

Assuming the whole hacking story is true, it seems pretty clear to me:

So Jason has been shown the previous Skype conversation, or finds it in his history, and wants to know if it's from that day or if it's old. Then he pastes it to be sure Mike knows what he's talking about:

And Mike responds that it was that day:
Which of course means that Jason has been hacked, so naturally he's upset about the situation and says:
And the conversation continues from there.

That cleared it up thanks. I guess I thought he was referring to the person when he said that, rather than reacting to a horrible situation.

It seems to me that the scammer set up a new MB account in the name of Jason Wells.

If that is the case, then MB should be asked to go after this guy with everything they've got, for bank fraud and for bringing their good name into disrepute.

hey nurgle,

just to clarify, you sold your lock at .50?

attention, re: hopesolo9

hopesolo9 and I were preparing for a trade - BoA for BCP - discussing it via PM.

i gave him my bank info - name, zip code, acct number (standard obv) - so he could send

after receiving those details, he hasn't gotten back to me and hasn't answered my PMs, though he's been active on 2+2

this could be nothing obviously, but i just wanted to put this out here publicly in case his account's been hacked or whatever (some scammers/hackers take control of an account, send and receive PMs, then delete them so the real owner of the account doesn't realize what's going on)

i don't care if we don't do the trade obviously but would like to know what's going on and to make sure his account is safe and everything is on the up and up

as always, for those of you trading, be very careful to make sure who you're dealing with. there have been lots of scams lately. people are being hacked, impersonated, etc. please take appropriate steps to be safe!

i did for a special trade with him . my normal rate is .65 amazon ( full )
.65 boa and skrill

other payment option ( pls confirm with me via PM ) .68

MB was emailed 24 hours ago and no response has been given on the matter. RW was also trying to get it fixed and said they are very hard to deal with and was also unsuccessful to my knowledge. Not sure how I can go about getting this fixed via MB, they're seemingly awful.

Thanks for your valuable input. You should be banned for trolling. I traded with someone that has a ton of successful trade history, 16k posts and a join date of 2006. I also had their Skype contact (his ACTUAL Skype, Jason Wells), his MB name was Jason Wells and I did a search of his username and real name and saw nothing sketchy linked to it. I did what I could to be cautious. It's not my fault he is a moron and has an incredibly basic password and makes it the same on all of his accounts so someone can literally steal his entire identity.

Yeah. This is 100% a ****ty situation. I feel for you jkidd

Plus he would obviously need a way to capture the $$ from MB which they would be able to track, even if it was just a debit card at an atm. RW had posted some confirmed & unconfirmed info earlier on this guy. That phone number is a Colorado area code, but what I saw on one of those email names at lock was the name of a small sisters community on both sides of the Tx/Nm border by El Paso, followed by the area code (915) for the Tx side that's basically a suburb of El Paso...if that's of any use to anyone. I would think Lock would be able to tell where those emails were accessed from also.

That scam seems outside of what the scammer had been doing. Setting a mb account in someone elses name seems pretty ballsy for only 2k. Mods, is there a chance original owner of the account is just lying and he's the one that actually scammed?

I see people in the p2p transfers thread selling Lock @ $0.66 is this real? I've been paying $0.80-$0.85 for months now, guess that's why people have been snap accepting my offers lol

How long do you think it will take for 2 friends on here one with legit account and weak password to use the my account was hacked, I do not know who this other person is scam?
It is too easy to steal here. They probably are making their back up accounts now.
I do not believe gimmietheloot was involved at all. I repeat I do not believe gimmietheloot was involved so I dont want to hear anything regarding me accusing him.
If he was though, how would this gone down differently?

Just a question out of curiosity, why is the standard for lock right now about .65? If you follow the lock thread, they are actually clearing up the backlog and those that requested WU on 12/31 have received sender info and it will be any day now before they get MTCN's. Lock still obviously has cashout problems but it seems but just a couple weeks ago .7-.75 was standard, I would think that the rate should be more like .77 right now, or is it that the market for lock money lags behind events? Anyway would love to hear what more knowledgeable members have to say. Thanks.

I think it probably simply has to do with supply, demand and perceptions. Lots of posts (not claiming to agree or disagree here, btw) on their threads noting how long it took to get MTCN's after receiving sender info; some saying not able to make second withdrawal requests because of delays on pending request (I'm sure they have max's also I'm sure some what of a "wait & see" approach also to will these new requests actually consumate in a timely fashion; lingering questions/fears/perceptions what the underlying problems may or may not be as to why the backlog to begin with; normal human hysteria; etc., etc.

Apparently, although I wouldn't know, the other 3 main competing US facing networks aren't having any problems getting people their money whether they be US or ROW and it seems even a site or two within their own Network aren't having issues either, so their "stock" has slid so to say. Whether justly or not, who knows. I enjoy playing on Lock and their issues haven't really affected me greatly, although I get annoyed w/them here and there also...but I get annoyed occasionally on any site given I'm an American and the crappy playing scenarios that makes me vulnerable to given the current climate for the last couple years.

Wouldn't say that's "knowledgeable" but perhaps a couple reasons why...perhaps not. Hopefully you'll get better answers also w/o a bunch of "flaming"

Not saying it should be .65 but to be fair I requested WU on 12/31 immediately after it was avail and I have not received sender info. And others from November still have not been paid including one of my horses. The perception is lock is unstable fair or not

Yes, Bobo had it perfectly right.

I agree with this.

They have finally responded, this was the response:


We would like to confirm that the matter reported is currently being investigation. Your Skrill account has been carefully been reviewed and we do not have grounds to believe that it has been compromised. Still, to be assisted further, we would ask you to provide us with more information (as detailed as possible) regarding the case.

Please, get back to us at vip@skrill.com.

We thank you in advance for your cooperation with this matter and look forward to hearing from you soon.

Not too helpful unfortunately. I have asked what documentation was used to set up his account. FTR, if its all the same documentation, I will pay jkidd $1000 dollars of the stolen money. My mind would be ****ing blown.

Yes, I agree with this. I dont think jkidd did anything at all wrong, and like I said to him, the procedure would have been the same if it had been the real me trading with him. Yes, I am a moron for having the weak passwords on my 2p2/skype accounts and deserve to be chastised for it.

This as well.

This is the reason 2p2's policy is banning the offending account whether or not they were actually 'hacked'. Unfortunately some careless but ultimately honest members fall into this. If seemingly honest accounts were allowed to be reinstated, the incentive for pulling the scam you describe is increased (or easier to do again).

Not much more 2p2 can do to prevent this except treat it like any other scam.

Full Name: Justin Enzo Archuleta
Birthday: 2/18/1989

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texa...37472/details/

He apparently believes that humiliation is the worst that can happen. Well I'd like to introduce you to his crazy story about his mother catching him "talking to the gods."

He believes he's a reptilian. His eyes change colors. He said " I definately have connections with aliens, why have they not contacted me yet?".

Interesting.. I'd say that's humiliating.

I don't think he's that humiliated about being on probation. I do know something that's more humiliating than probation though, and that is being locked up for scamming people.

People who have been scammed by him need to contact his probation officer about this. He was arrested in McKinney, Texas. He was sentenced to 2 years in jail. He had almost a year given as "time-served"when he was handed down that 2 year sentence.

Anyone up to calling his probation officer? Specifically someone who was scammed by him?

http://cijspub.co.collin.tx.us/CaseD...?CaseID=934918