ROFL, yeah, pretty stupid, huh? But, unfortunately, that appears to be the case. Altho', I am guessing that a lot of people that cannot get RB on FT themselves probably just get a trustworthy friend or family member to open a rakeback account in their own name and then just play on their account. It's against the rules, but, obviously, no one would ever be able to prove that it was you playing on their account, and not your friend/family member.

Otherwise, I think some people try to get away with opening a second account with rakeback with different names/id's/addresses, etc, and some people get away with it, but most probably don't.

Furthermore, as long as you can live w/o Rush poker, you really may as well just go play on Stars anyway. Stars is superior to FT in many ways, and their VIP program is about equivalent to rakeback, and you are guaranteed to get it!

Finally, not ALL hope is lost, because FT claims that they are working on some type of solution to this ridiculous problem, but lord only knows if/when that will ever happen, could be months, years, or never.

LOL, what's 90% illegal? It's either 0 or 100, and unless you're from Washington, I'm pretty sure it's 0. There might be a couple of other states where it's illegal; I'm not positive.

As far as closing your account w/FT, you can close and reopen your account whenever you want, but it doesn't change anything. Just email FT support and ask them to close/reopen your account and they will. I've done it before. I told FT that I would not play on their site w/o rakeback, and told them to just close my account. They said, "ok", and closed my account. Lol. So much for threats. I had them reopen my account a few days later just in CASE by some miracle I get rakeback someday, and also so I can screw around with play money sometimes.

Bobo is right. Online poker is "basically" legal in the US. The pseudo-illegal part is with some of the banks, ewallets, and stuff like that that don't want to have any part of "gambling money".

Yes, it's perfectly legal to play poker in the US as long as you don't deposit or withdraw.

I know I've told them I've moved my **** on PokerStars. They are seriously seriously dumb. Like whoever owns that site has absolutely no business managing skills.

To have the best software by far, the best tournaments (and allegedly the best players) playing on your site and still be lagging 2 times behind the competition? Means you are doing something really reallly realllllly bad -- and now I found out what it is.

FYP.

It's not illegal for you to deposit or withdraw. It's just illegal for the banks to process one of the two; I never remember which. Deposits, I think.

Got the email that i was accepted! I went and created an account, so now am i good or do i have to do anything else.

EDIT: "To accept this offer you need to create an account with RakeBackPros using your existing Full Tilt Poker player details." was the first email, but then i got one saying theyll let me know if i can and thanks for signing up. So am i approved or no?

I asked them not to send a canned response and this is what I get:

Hello,

If we can offer you rakeback then we will be in contact with you.


Regards

Joe
Rakebackpros Support


LoL

If RBP sent you something that said "You will receive rakeback on your FT account from now on", then yes, you are good to go. If not, then, no, you probably don't have rakeback yet, sorry.

If you signed up with FT for the first time, thru RBP, then you will probably receive rakeback.

If you signed up with RBP with an existing FT account that is NOT affiliated yet, then there is a good chance you will get rakeback in the near future.

If you signed up with RBP with an existing FT account that is already affiliated, then you will probably NOT get rackback anytime soon.

Hope that helps.

Well, the big problem is that FT has a contract with each affiliate, to not allow any player to have more than one affiliate, and FT doesn't allow more than one account per player. We play on FT. We pay rake. FT keeps most of the rake for themselves, and gives a small % of it to the affiliate, because the affiliate referred that player to FT. If it is a non-rakeback affiliate, the affiliate keeps all that money. If it is a rakeback affiliate, they give the player some of that money as rakeback.

So, FT can't allow more than one affiliate per player, and more than one account per player because then the non-rakeback affiliates would probably not get paid, and FT would have to share more of their money.

It's an imperfect system for sure. Hopefully, FT can straighten it out in the next several months.

Yeah, you sound good to go. Usually a week to three weeks you'll start getting the transfers.

They probably generate an e-mail for every new sign up that says 'we're checking to see if you can be added' because of so many players signing up that can't get rakeback through them.

Update: I had my g/f email RBP again yesterday to ask them why she is ineligible for RB despite being a new player, new account, and did everything right. Well, they wrote her back this morning, and said that there was some kind of "mix up" with the processing of her account, but they fixed it, and she should receive rakeback from now on. They apologized for everything, and that was it.

So, it took them 5 days to pull their heads out of their butts, but they did eventually fix their mistake and give her rakeback, allegedly. I will keep you guys updated if there are any other problems.

I have been playing on FTP for 3 years now and have never had rakeback from them. Ive tried once but never got anything out of it. I was up early this morning reading this thread and it inspired me to try again.

At 4am EST today I sent an email to FTP and to RBP's asking for rakeback again. At 9am I got this email from FTP, I know thats warp speed response time for them.

Hello Player,

Thanks for getting in contact with us about rakeback.

Although Full Tilt Poker does not offer rakeback directly to players, our preferred affiliate partner RakeBackPros.com offers rakeback to players who sign up through their website with Full Tilt Poker.

We?ve sent your player details to RakeBackPros.com and they will be in direct contact with you.

Sincerely,

Tomotaka
Full Tilt Poker Support


After getting that I was like damn it I guess I aint getting anywhere again with that lameass response. I also had an email from RBP which I received at noon EST.

Hi Full Tilt Player,

You are now eligible to receive rakeback on all of your future play at Full Tilt Poker.

To accept this offer you need to create an account with RakeBackPros using your existing Full Tilt Poker player details.

Go to www.rakebackpros.com/signup/ and create your account.

Once you have created an account at our site you will receive an automatic notification confirming your account details. Please do not respond to this. We will contact you within a few days to confirm that rakeback has successfully been activated for your account.

Sign up today!

Important! If you have already created an account prior to receiving this message, then please let us know by contacting us at support@rakebackpros.com.

Please include your Full Tilt Poker player ID in the message and we will make sure that your account is set up correctly.



Sincerely,

The RakeBackPros Team


WOW I was absolutely stunned. Not only did I finally get rakeback from my favorite site but I got it in only 8 hours after emailing them. I may run like shat on the felt but damn it I run goooooooot in this instance. Ive been pumped ever since.

^ Wow are you serious? I just dont understand how some people can get it instantly while ive been waiting for months. I also created my account on FT years ago. This puts me on tilt. I have been itching to play rush poker for weeks but I am holding off until I can get RB activated.

I got in too and there was no rhyme or reason as to why they'd let me in. My guess is that they had an unusually large amount of "meh whatever" spots to let people have rakeback this week?

In the email I sent to FTP I told them that If I didnt get it soon that I would be taking my money off their site and moving it to UB where I currently get 30 percent rakeback. Guess that got it thru their head to give me rakeback.

Good to hear, congrats!

Did you send an email to FT support or FT affiliate department?

Support

I told them Im going to move on PokerStars -- to no effect. After 5 emails back and forth they said they won't talk to me about it anymore. Pathetic.

does anyone know if there are any pros who dont have rakeback. I ask this because guys like the Dang bros, Andrew robl etc may have made their accounts before they knew about rakeback. Also, is there any good nl200, nl500 players without rb?

Just keep sending them emails. Send some every week.

I keep emailing them over the course of 8 mths -- I'm always polite, simply asking for rakeback. They don't care, but it's got to be annoying.

Threaten to move your roll. They still won't care. Then tell them you're going to move your roll to X company and do it. Then write them and tell much how much money X company is making off you. Send them graphs and numbers. Then politely ask them for rakeback again. Tell them if you get it, you'll move back.

I've been sending a ton of emails. I recommend you guys do the same thing. Keep asking, be polite, threaten to move your roll, tell them X company is better than them, tell them you'd like to return to FTP.

Just keep doing it. It probably won't change anything, but it's your only course of action. I'd imagine they are already getting fed up with rakeback inquiries. Keep it going, day in and day out. Don't stop. Just be polite about it.

if u already have an account with FT, where is the best place to apply for rakeback? I know of rakebackpros.com, so other suggestions would be apprecited.

You just got lucky...they just happened to pull your name out of the hat.