I choose this route and elected to just call the flop with the hope of taking it on a later street. When the turn bricked and villian led out again, I raised hoping to end it, but he called. River also bricked (Q of spades) and when he bet I just folded (I can't imagine he would have folded to a raise here). So, thats the breaks? Played it ok, missed, move on? I guess I always feel a little silly when I get aggressive with a draw and totally whiff...

Hand history continued from flop (I had Kd Jh):

FLOP ($3.50) 5 2 A

SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

TURN ($10.50) 5 2 A 3

SB bets $5, Hero raises to $13.25, SB calls $8.25

RIVER ($37) 5 2 A 3 Q

SB bets $15.40 (AI), Hero folds

SB wins $35.15

if you call the flop the stack sizes set up ok to jam over any turn bet i think.

i dont think a flop raise is bad either.

Aghh back from Vegas and a nice profit only to sit down at Rush and get it all in with Aces or Kings or set over two pair and lose em all

Down 5 buy ins first day back at 100 NL I miss Vegas

this was late at night what i meant to say was its ok to keep that as a possibility if you sense any weakness.

I am really, really ready for 2/4 NL rush. I need a way to tilt money away faster.

1/2 DS could also get interesting pretty quickly.

finally destroying 50NL

Just looking for an idea on 50NL Full ring Rush winrates. Just tryin to see how I stack up. Also do people find that 4tableing rush is more profitable then say 12-16 tabling regular full ring games at this level?

Or maybe just on the good side of variance.

i was 8bi below ev+ now im exactly on EV so nope, just playing good

Good thing EV perfectly measures variance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAD3wFjqWDc

All in EV means absolutely nothing whatsoever.

eh, i think that's an exaggeration (and perhaps you know it)

is it true that you can be running way below all-in EV but still be running good? yes, of course. and you can be running above all-in EV but still be running bad

that being said, if someone is 30 bis below expectation in all-in EV over 100k hands, they are probably running below their expectation overall. not definitely, but it's still more likely than not. the fact that you can use that information to draw a probable conclusion means it has some meaning

i agree that a lot of people overstate the importance of all-in EV, but i also think it's a mistake to go to the opposite extreme

I more or less meant the bolded portion.

However, honestly, you are also wrong in saying it's a mistake to go to the opposite extreme. I say this because all in EV isn't something in your control. It doesn't help you to play better, so its relevance is worthless. I tend to stick to focusing on improving my game and things in my control rather than make posts about how I am running and my EV. I'd say a good portion of people that post in this thread post stupid rants that no one cares about. It's meaningless and I hate wasting seconds of my life reading that ****.

You say you can use it draw a probably conclusion, but what conclusion does it lead you to that actually helps you? Does it identify turn leaks? Does it identify a trend in a lack of aggression? meh, it really is pretty worthless if you ask me (which most likely, no one did. )

If it makes you feel better, FINE. If it makes you hate the game, FINE.

The day I can appreciate the game, I'm fine. Up or Down, I'm fine. Set over set, I'm fine. BvB and he's at the top of his range, I'm fine. Called down by underpair, I'm fine. Yes, I fired all three. Top of my range isn't good enough, I'm fine.

FINE.

BB was 13/10/3 with a 6% 3bet over almost 200 hands (thats a LOT for Rush lol). So even tho this is blind vs blind I am pretty sure he is really strong when he 3bets pre and then calls my 4-bet. Probably putting him on JJ+, AK, AQ, and thats it. Given how unlikey AA would be here, I'm pretty sure I am ahead (or tied) and that he has minimal outs. Still unsure about playing in 4-bet pots so wondering about my bet sizes on each street? Also, should i have tried to bring along KK, AQ etc on the turn by betting smaller or even checking? Thanks...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($81.75)
BB ($251)
UTG ($17.90)
UTG+1 ($134)
CO ($48.50)
BTN ($274)

Dealt to Hero A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $12.25, BB calls $7.75

FLOP ($24.50) 2 A 2

Hero bets $15, BB calls $15

TURN ($54.50) 2 A 2 9

Hero bets $54.50 (AI), BB folds

Either bet smaller or even check the turn. You are trying to get value from KK or QQ or maaaaybe AQ here. That shove just blows villain off of all those hands.

I doubt he has KK/QQ here since it's BvB. He could even have something like AJs...I prob gay bet like third pot here hoping he shoves with flush draws and calls with worse

I'd say KK is less likely, but maybe not QQ. They are 160 deep.

Has anyone been timing out a ton the past couple days? I reset my modem but it's still doing it and I'm not using bandwidth for anything else.

everything working fine for me

Odd...

Yesterday I logged in to start a session of 4 rush tables. I fire them up at the same time - for the first time that day - and one of the four tables does not have me start in the BB for the first hand. I was in middle position.

I suppose that is possible IF they allow 2 people who are opening a table to sit at the same table. Not sure if there are rules against that, but it would make sense.

This happens to me all the time. Then next and always have the blind. Prob just a matter of 2 people starting up at the same time.

Hi,

are there any diffrences between these games and when yes which? Any specific strategy in 6max Rush I should use?

Thx for any (serious) thoughts!