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05-20-2013 , 08:14 PM
Any chance that you guys change the way that a person earns BP's from dealt to contributed rake? Doesn't really seem fair for someone like myself that plays ~25/21 style at 6max earning BP's at the same rate that all these nits that sit at these tables do. A guy that plays 13/10 earns at the same rate as I do while being involved in less hands and ultimately paying less in rake. I believe stars changed from dealt to contributed because the mid-stakes full ring games became a nit fest of players just wanting to earn FPP's and they wanted to loosen the games up and it also rewarded the looser players.
05-20-2013 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Clickety-Click
Yes, aware of that, just wondering why they don't show hands at showdown.
The "mucked at showdown" policy is designed to mimic that of a live casino game. The aggressor must show, but the caller can choose not to, if he loses. Most of the casual players on the network are more familiar with live casino play than the online version where the hands must be shown, and the network wants to make those players as comfortable as possible.
05-20-2013 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
The "mucked at showdown" policy is designed to mimic that of a live casino game. The aggressor must show, but the caller can choose not to, if he loses. Most of the casual players on the network are more familiar with live casino play than the online version where the hands must be shown, and the network wants to make those players as comfortable as possible.
I am a casual player who never plays higher than 5NL. Instead of keeping that feature out to make players like myself "as comfortable as possible", will you lower the rake a bit. I would feel more comfortable that way. Thanks
05-20-2013 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
The "mucked at showdown" policy is designed to mimic that of a live casino game. The aggressor must show, but the caller can choose not to, if he loses. Most of the casual players on the network are more familiar with live casino play than the online version where the hands must be shown, and the network wants to make those players as comfortable as possible.
except that bcp never shows when the party mucks at showdown and in live play in casino 70% of hands that go to showdown are shown by losing party, and if they don't you have the right to ask the dealer to see cards. and in some WSOP tournaments it is required that ALL HANDS be shown at showdown.....to say that it is done to mimic casino is not a good excuse, because the present 100% no show does not mimic casinos at all. If you really want to mimic casinos then don't have the software tell you when your turn is, have the players follow what is going on, also don't put boxes to show bet size required, let the players follow as in casino...see it is impossible to have internet poker be like casino poker...so take out that ridiculous rule of not showing at showdown.

Last edited by wwwin; 05-20-2013 at 11:27 PM.
05-20-2013 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonky1
I am a casual player who never plays higher than 5NL. Instead of keeping that feature out to make players like myself "as comfortable as possible", will you lower the rake a bit. I would feel more comfortable that way. Thanks
+1 if comfort is the main objective lowering the rake would do it...show the cards at showdown, I have the feeling the reason stated is not the actual reason
05-20-2013 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wwwin
+1 if comfort is the main objective lowering the rake would do it...show the cards at showdown, I have the feeling the reason stated is not the actual reason
Ya I got that feeling as well
05-21-2013 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonky1
I am a casual player who never plays higher than 5NL. Instead of keeping that feature out to make players like myself "as comfortable as possible", will you lower the rake a bit. I would feel more comfortable that way. Thanks
We were just passing along the network's explanation on why they do it this way. As always, we will continue to be our players' advocate so please continue to provide feedback, oh and a little good feedback would be nice once in a while
05-21-2013 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
We were just passing along the network's explanation on why they do it this way. As always, we will continue to be our players' advocate so please continue to provide feedback, oh and a little good feedback would be nice once in a while
Understandable. I haven't played much on there since the move from Merge, but I did play a fair amount before then and have always thought the site was well run.
If Louisa helps me out getting the 35% RB I had in the past (didn't realize I was supposed to email w/in 2 months as I wasn't currently playing BCP), I will have at least one more thing to say positive!
So far though seems like you are doing a good job from what I've read through this forum!
05-21-2013 , 01:21 PM
Does a P2P transfer count as a "deposit" for the first depositor bonus?
05-21-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant
Does a P2P transfer count as a "deposit" for the first depositor bonus?
No it doesn't.
05-21-2013 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtlow
Any chance that you guys change the way that a person earns BP's from dealt to contributed rake? Doesn't really seem fair for someone like myself that plays ~25/21 style at 6max earning BP's at the same rate that all these nits that sit at these tables do. A guy that plays 13/10 earns at the same rate as I do while being involved in less hands and ultimately paying less in rake. I believe stars changed from dealt to contributed because the mid-stakes full ring games became a nit fest of players just wanting to earn FPP's and they wanted to loosen the games up and it also rewarded the looser players.
????? Any comment?
05-21-2013 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtlow
????? Any comment?
I believe if you are in rakeback it is contributed not dealt.
05-21-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wwwin
I believe if you are in rakeback it is contributed not dealt.
I'm not in rakeback.
05-21-2013 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtlow
Any chance that you guys change the way that a person earns BP's from dealt to contributed rake? Doesn't really seem fair for someone like myself that plays ~25/21 style at 6max earning BP's at the same rate that all these nits that sit at these tables do. A guy that plays 13/10 earns at the same rate as I do while being involved in less hands and ultimately paying less in rake. I believe stars changed from dealt to contributed because the mid-stakes full ring games became a nit fest of players just wanting to earn FPP's and they wanted to loosen the games up and it also rewarded the looser players.
I don't believe there's any plan to change the way points are earned, but if that changes I'll let you know.
05-22-2013 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
I don't believe there's any plan to change the way points are earned, but if that changes I'll let you know.
Is it contributed or dealt for RB? Will help me decide how aggromonkey to play
05-22-2013 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonky1
Is it contributed or dealt for RB? Will help me decide how aggromonkey to play
I believe it is weighted contributed, not 100% sure though.
05-22-2013 , 12:15 PM
Great, software. Played on network for rirst time last night and had lots of fun. its a shame traffic isnt better. Can easily compete with pokerstars I think if traffic would pick up. I liked the over all quality of the players to, Not a ton of sucking donkeys like on merge.
05-22-2013 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
Great, software. Played on network for rirst time last night and had lots of fun. its a shame traffic isnt better. Can easily compete with pokerstars I think if traffic would pick up. I liked the over all quality of the players to, Not a ton of sucking donkeys like on merge.
what are you playing on?
05-22-2013 , 02:41 PM
I didn't mean the players were great players. I felt the integrity of the game was alot better then merge. Im probably on a diffrent level then you guys, so chill. : )
05-22-2013 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroDonky1
Is it contributed or dealt for RB? Will help me decide how aggromonkey to play
It's contributed for RB, dealt for the VIP Program.
05-22-2013 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
It's contributed for RB, dealt for the VIP Program.
Why are they different?
05-22-2013 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Curtlow
Why are they different?
I'm not privvy to every decision that's ever been made at WPN. We're the new comers here. The structure for attributing rake everywhere on the network - our back office, affiliates, rakeback, etc - is contributed. When it comes to the VIP program I assume they opted for the dealt method to reward players just that little bit more.
05-22-2013 , 08:42 PM
ya im a little confused as well
05-22-2013 , 09:00 PM
It's there house and they make the rules as it should be. And until there is another option for US players, I've simply decided to make do with what they offer. And when Ultimate Poker or another poker client becomes available to the rest of the US, I'll vote with my play then. At least HM2 is making a bit of headway (HUD soon?).
05-22-2013 , 09:39 PM
Why, oh why did you use the yellow spades in the 2nd four color deck?

      
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