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02-09-2013 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MrAggromonkey
I moved to a new apartment. I am debating as to whether I should change my address with Black Chip before my next cash out. What documents are they going to ask for if I tell them about my address change? I don't want to get delayed on the cash out while I am waiting for my first utility bill and such. I do have a forwarding order from my old address to my new one. However, the forwarding seems about 6 business days lagged. Please advise on what documents they are going to ask me for. My account if fully verified except for this address change that they don't know about.

You will need a document (utility bill, bank or cc statement, etc) that was mailed to you at your current address. The same standards apply as to how you proved your last location...

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Kahn
02-09-2013 , 12:25 PM
Is there any fix on the horizon for some of the random issues like importing HUSNGs into PT4? The 33 turbos tend to work fine, but all the hyper turbos and my other buyins I play all import as a 0 dollar buyin game, often times saying they were reg speeds or super turbos when they were not. So random. At least the hands import correctly, but it's really annoying for trying to have an accurate database.
02-09-2013 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WEC
Maybe I am plain dumb. But PT has supported them for a long time and it didn't seem to take them weeks, months, years and excuses to get it done. Maybe they are just a whole different story that I do not understand fully, but the whiff of BS fills the air with what I have seen thus far.
PT has supported their current HH format for some time. We did not want to waste development time supporting the existing format because by the time we had the development resources to devote to this new site support we knew a new format was in the works.


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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
Just to clarify - I didn't say it would be ready in 3-4 weeks, I said at least 3-4 weeks. That was the rough "minimum" timeframe I had from WPN at the time. I think any information/timeframe from HEM themselves would be more reliable as I assume they are talking directly to the developers.

BTW it's not fair to blame HEM for this delay. The very reason HEM are not able to support the WPN client is because they are waiting for WPN to change the way their HH are written, and WPN have been promising to do this for months. From what I understand the way it is currently was setup speficially so it would be supported by PT, and for WPN to switch it to a HEM-supported format it would have broken the PT compatibility. Fixing this (getting WPN HH to a format which is supported by both PT and HEM) has been top of WPN's development list for months, but (AFAIK) other jobs keep getting pushed in front of the task.

I'm afraid that's all I know on this topic.
Thank you for the clarification. That is similar to why it took us so long to be able to devote time to supporting this network. We could not put issues on hold that affected our entire customer base to work on supporting new sites. Now that most of those issues are behind us we can start working on new site support like WPN, Barriere, etc.
02-09-2013 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
PT has supported their current HH format for some time. We did not want to waste development time supporting the existing format because by the time we had the development resources to devote to this new site support we knew a new format was in the works.
Well, you lost some customers with your slow timeline. I for one switched to PokerTracker. It shouldn't be that hard for your development team to parse a hand history. Before you say that their hand history is ridiculous, it isn't too hard to parse at all. I have done it, another developer has done it, and PokerTracker has had it implemented for a long time.
02-09-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
Well, you lost some customers with your slow timeline. I for one switched to PokerTracker. It shouldn't be that hard for your development team to parse a hand history. Before you say that their hand history is ridiculous, it isn't too hard to parse at all. I have done it, another developer has done it, and PokerTracker has had it implemented for a long time.
We realized that would happen but it is a choice we had to make. We hope you are having good luck at the tables with your choice of tracker and we hold no ill will towards anyone that had to choose an alternative tracker and we hope they can understand our reasoning for the decisions we had to make. We understand those players that were only playing on WPN might choose an alternate tracker but we could not spend time trying to make some BCP players happy that were caught up in the network change at the expense of frustrating the majority of our customer base that were having other problems. Our focus generally has to be critical issues with currently supported sites, or issues that affect all our customers regardless of their site, over adding new site support.

FWIW I have an account at BCP and Lock for my only 2 networks since Black Friday and I haven't been able to play on BCP either since they moved from Merge to WPN unless I want to use the competitors product.
02-09-2013 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WEC
Maybe I am plain dumb. But PT has supported them for a long time and it didn't seem to take them weeks, months, years and excuses to get it done. Maybe they are just a whole different story that I do not understand fully, but the whiff of BS fills the air with what I have seen thus far.
I've been wondering this myself. It's like, how can a program that for years was leaps and bounds above PT, all of a sudden not be able to support a hh format? Like we're really supposed to believe all those wizards over there that coded HEM1 and HEM2 can't figure out how to make a hh read into the software. OK COOL. It's obviously just a case of HEM doesn't give a ****. They don't deem the market to be big enough at WPN to care about. How many extra sales are they going to make if they support WPN? Probably none, since everyone that plays already has purchased a HEM license.

Yeah, you can code a program that can process 100's of thousands of hands, and analyze stats in seconds.......but can't read in a hh format. LOL. GTFO fozzy.
02-09-2013 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
PT has supported their current HH format for some time. We did not want to waste development time supporting the existing format because by the time we had the development resources to devote to this new site support we knew a new format was in the works.
WASTE time supporting the existing format? WASTE? How about the fact that thousands of poker players spent good money to purchase a license from HEM, on the basis that you guys were the best program in the industry. And you say that making the program work for the site they play on is a waste of time? Who cares if a few months after, they came out with a new hh format? That's your problem to fix it again, not the paying customer who you are obviously not giving a **** about.

Maybe if you idiots hadn't undertaken the HUGE FAILURE that is HEM2, and just continued to support and improve HEM1, then we'd have WPN support by now. Instead you've been spending all your time fixing the millions of bugs related to that abortion of a program that HEM2 is.
02-09-2013 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
Well, you lost some customers with your slow timeline. I for one switched to PokerTracker. It shouldn't be that hard for your development team to parse a hand history. Before you say that their hand history is ridiculous, it isn't too hard to parse at all. I have done it, another developer has done it, and PokerTracker has had it implemented for a long time.
I agree I waited for HEM to develop the HH, But it took them so long I feel like they lost a lot of customers taking this long. Eventually I had to buy PT4 because they supported BCP.
02-09-2013 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by @YourGFsHouse
...GTFO fozzy.
As you wish. I am done with this thread. If anyone has questions for me they can post in our support thread or on our forums. I was trying to be as honest as I could, perhaps too honest, about why we haven't added support for this new network yet but I am not going to bother replying to the abusive/trolling posts.
02-09-2013 , 08:51 PM
What are easiest deposit options and are p2p still allowed?
02-09-2013 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
I was afraid of this

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Blackchip takes no prisoners.
02-09-2013 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
As you wish. I am done with this thread. If anyone has questions for me they can post in our support thread or on our forums. I was trying to be as honest as I could, perhaps too honest, about why we haven't added support for this new network yet but I am not going to bother replying to the abusive/trolling posts.
I appreciate your time here fozzy. Thanks for explaining the situation and giving us an update. Ignore the trolls
02-10-2013 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kleinstein000
I appreciate your time here fozzy. Thanks for explaining the situation and giving us an update. Ignore the trolls
Thank you, I lied... I am still here. You would think I would have a thicker skin after 30k posts here, 20k posts on hm.com, and tens of thousands of emails in the past 3.5+ years of this job. I apologize for almost resorting to his level but it has been a long day.
02-10-2013 , 12:49 AM
Hey Fozzy you the man bro, I appreciate all your help, you have helped me in the past countless times, and your super fast and precise. F the haters
02-10-2013 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Thank you, I lied... I am still here. You would think I would have a thicker skin after 30k posts here, 20k posts on hm.com, and tens of thousands of emails in the past 3.5+ years of this job. I apologize for almost resorting to his level but it has been a long day.
Good to hear. Affects everyone from time to time I'm sure.
02-10-2013 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mg0698
Hey Fozzy you the man bro, I appreciate all your help, you have helped me in the past countless times, and your super fast and precise. F the haters
02-10-2013 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
Thank you, I lied... I am still here. You would think I would have a thicker skin after 30k posts here, 20k posts on hm.com, and tens of thousands of emails in the past 3.5+ years of this job. I apologize for almost resorting to his level but it has been a long day.
I havent really needed your help one on one yet,But i really do use the info YOU post to others so thanks for the honesty and helpfulness.
Screw the trolls.
02-10-2013 , 01:47 AM
Fozzy,

What these guys are really trying to say is there aren't that many American facing sites for us to play on so can you get us going please.
02-10-2013 , 01:18 PM
there has to be a hotkey program out there that hits my timer button???? there has to be right how else can mcj and gog be playing that much without going insane and timing out every table. lmk if you guys hear of one
02-10-2013 , 07:44 PM
Im pretty sure its not fair that JETSEVEN gets to start a 50k guarantee tourn with 8 inactive players and get a free 5 times chip stack.
SUCH BS
02-10-2013 , 07:45 PM
implement some better alternatives to ur tourn structures.Unreal
02-10-2013 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ariolis30
there has to be a hotkey program out there that hits my timer button???? there has to be right how else can mcj and gog be playing that much without going insane and timing out every table. lmk if you guys hear of one
What % of a chance do you give that mcj is one, actual human being?
02-10-2013 , 07:47 PM
this guy JETSEVEN gets to have a 40k chip stack in a 5k starting stack 50K guarantee tourn.WTF.at a table with 8 inactives.so stupid!
Is this site really this bad?
02-10-2013 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
What % of a chance do you give that mcj is one, actual human being?
someone should request he be part of the "BEAST LIVE" thing they do when players are suspected of unrealistic playing ability.
I think they force him to play under video watch for a while
02-10-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ariolis30
there has to be a hotkey program out there that hits my timer button???? there has to be right how else can mcj and gog be playing that much without going insane and timing out every table. lmk if you guys hear of one
What if they created their own hotkey program?

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Originally Posted by hankwhite69
someone should request he be part of the "BEAST LIVE" thing they do when players are suspected of unrealistic playing ability.
I think they force him to play under video watch for a while
That would probably make sense if they would still hold this promotion, but its not the case anymore.

      
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