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Official 2011 Supernova Elite pursuit thread, with related chat Official 2011 Supernova Elite pursuit thread, with related chat

11-04-2011 , 05:01 PM
so u would give me what odds? 1000 to 1 ? 10000 to 1 ?
11-04-2011 , 05:06 PM
If you get 0.035 VPP per hand then you would need:
100000VPP/.035VPP= 2,857,142.9 hands per year.
Which is only 7827.7888 hands per day,
Which is 326.15787 hands per hour.

Go for it OP.
11-04-2011 , 05:13 PM
Lolz.
11-04-2011 , 05:52 PM
its definitely possible. you would get bored and stop tho
11-04-2011 , 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strappa
so u would give me what odds? 1000 to 1 ? 10000 to 1 ?
No one's going to give you odds like that, even though it's an almost guaranteed win for them, just because there's no point having to escrow thousands of dollars to win $5.
11-04-2011 , 05:56 PM
OP ... thanks for making my day, needed a good laugh.
11-04-2011 , 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strappa
Is it possible to reach Supernova status ONLY playing PLO 6-max 0.01/0.02 at PokerStars with a $200 bankroll?
You'd have to play an average about 5 hours a day of 24-tabling.
11-04-2011 , 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZephyrSpy
If you get 0.035 VPP per hand then you would need:
100000VPP/.035VPP= 2,857,142.9 hands per year.
Which is only 7827.7888 hands per day,
Which is 326.15787 hands per hour.

Go for it OP.
I think he would have moved up atleast half way thru so yea def possible unless u suck
11-04-2011 , 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve
The winners have been credited their funds. We'll look into altering details of the promotion for the 80 billionth hand to disincentivize such behavior in the future.
I feel like ur 5 year old posted this, this cannot be true.
11-04-2011 , 06:32 PM
Do they generate 0 vpps by open folding like that?
11-04-2011 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp
why don't you just leave every month or two and cross back over? no paperwork needed. Sure you run the risk of being denied, and then having to try again in 24 hours, but you don't have to jump through any legal hoops or anything.

If I had to do it over again, I would never do it via a temp visa. But because I did, I am forced to leave on a specific date, rather than whenever I want. If I somehow decided to stay in canada beyond my 6 months. I am just going to cross the border, and recross in a few days. And repeat every month or two.
Because I had the temp visa I was able to go back n forth when I wanted and had no issues getting back over. And I don't wanna stay for months on end like I did this year. I'd rather do a 2 weeks here 1 week in US or somethin like that. And knowing it's easy to get an extension on the visa when it runs out will gimme the whole year to plan out instead of a hectic mind numbing 6 month grind. I dunno though I've kinda been all over the place on what I'm gonna do next year.
11-04-2011 , 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sect7G
I live in Canada and I always get a paper check. Over the years it has gotten faster and faster on average. Now aproximately 3 days. Cashout on a Fri/Sat and I'd the check arrives via Fed Ex Tuesday.
Awesome thats great to hear cuz these little cashouts have me stuck here til I can get what I need off. I was worried bout cashin out and not gettin the check by end of month or somethin crazy like that. On stars it says takes approximately 15 days.
11-04-2011 , 07:31 PM
Holy crap Stars dropped the ball re: promotion.

I imagine they can't do anything due to lacking a strong case in their T&C/promotion rules, but it still makes the entire thing a complete sham.
11-04-2011 , 08:18 PM
Stars obviously has no recourse.... people found a loophole and used it. Fill the hole and move along.
11-04-2011 , 08:38 PM
Filing the hole is important. How about stop giving out large sums of money to a few people type promos. These type of promos tilt even modestly honest people to do questionable things. On Lock Poker Girah and some of his mostly honest buddies did something stupid because it was a large sum of money given to a few type promo.

Poker Stars when it comes to next billion just give everyone double points, reload bonuses and whatever but do it for e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e.

Large sum of money to a few promos are like the promo version of the bad beat jackpot and we all know how ****ing dumb that is.
11-04-2011 , 09:37 PM
ooh that gives me an idea

stars should do a bad beat jackpot promo!

Spoiler:
no not rly
11-04-2011 , 10:09 PM
what I find disappointing about Star's decision to go ahead with the payout is that they previously set the expectation of what's within the rules and what's not with the micro stakes vpp promotion last year, which team online pro, Chiren80 and another SNE reg found a loophole to allow them to accrue vpps at a faster rate than normal.

IIRC, technically no rules were broken, and no other players were adversely affected by their play, yet Star's still went ahead and punished both players. Ok, so the average rec/fish wouldn't know this, but probably most SNE chasers and large volume Supernovas would have read about it. PokerStars determined back then, what was ok and what is not.

Hence why no Team Pro/Online Pro would even dare try do what these two guys did, nor would any of us SNEs and high volume players openly risk our vip statuses and resort to 'fast-folding' with an accomplice on 24 HU tables in order to bink the big milestone hand.

All those ppl who are saying, fair play to those guys, they were smart and didn't break the rules don't even realise this. The better informed regs knew this was a grey area, and didn't proceed to go down that route.

Those guys had nothing to lose, except maybe a small amount of $ in their account to attempt this.

Last edited by gobby888; 11-04-2011 at 10:35 PM.
11-04-2011 , 11:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecooler992
Has anybody else applied for and received approval for an extension to stay in Canada past their initial trip?
i have, but it doesn't guarantee getting in even during the time they assign to you. if you leave and try to re-enter it helps but doesn't make getting in automatic.

i'm getting out of here for a while in 1 week!! would like to sublet my downtown toronto place from mid nov to mid jan -- last try, any takers?
11-05-2011 , 12:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobby888
All those ppl who are saying, fair play to those guys, they were smart and didn't break the rules don't even realise this. The better informed regs knew this was a grey area, and didn't proceed to go down that route.
I was just about to mention this as well.

These guys weren't smart, at all. I had this same idea, I'm sure hundreds or thousands of other players did as well. But what they did involved colluding and soft playing. It was heads up so those terms lose their normal connotation but I don't see how you can say agreeing to do nothing but fold with another opponent is anything but. That is the sole reason I decided not to auto-fold at 24 tables. I expected, at minimum, any prize I won would be forfeit with potentially much more severe consequences.

It's frustrating they allowed this since many more customers on the up-and-up just got spat on. What would support have said if I emailed them and asked if there would be any problem if I sat with a friend at 24 heads up tables and we agreed to do nothing but auto-fold to increase our chances of hitting a milestone hand? That is ostensibly a rhetorical question obviously. Such a mess.
11-05-2011 , 12:49 AM
I like how the underage kid who actually earned his money gets it taken away but these guys are rewarded doing something imo much worse
11-05-2011 , 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chisness
i have, but it doesn't guarantee getting in even during the time they assign to you. if you leave and try to re-enter it helps but doesn't make getting in automatic.
I really don't understand Canadian immigration...how can they grant you an extension (were you given a visa to begin with?) and then not have that be a guarantee that they'll let you in? Curious to hear more about the process you went through with CDN immigration if you feel like sharing...like, how you got the extension and what the conditions are.

GL subletting the place, but you'd have a better shot on Craigslist than in this thread I think!
11-05-2011 , 01:20 AM
yeah i would but roommate understandably doesn't want a random

i did the online form and they granted the extension, which i assumed meant automatic admittance for the entire period, so i didn't bring any supplementary docs to the airport. they interrogated me there for i think about 2 hours and even spoke to my roommate before eventually letting me in.

i later came in through the downtown YTZ airport and brought documents but didn't have to show any once he saw my extension was valid. i got in in about 5 minutes there.

spending time in toronto is one of the worst decisions i've ever made. it's strictly worse than chicago in every way and offers nothing in the way of an interesting cultural experience.

(ignore the above line if considering subletting my place )
11-05-2011 , 01:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamPro
Do u have 2 places to live? (one on each side)
Yes, but you wouldn't really need it. You could stay in a hotel or I suppose rent a room for $300 a month or something in the states. Letting the landlord know you will only be there 1 weekend a month tops.
11-05-2011 , 02:20 AM
So instead of getting banned they got 70k+, wp Stars
11-05-2011 , 04:28 AM
Stars should read the below post over and over and over until they get a clue.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gobby888
what I find disappointing about Star's decision to go ahead with the payout is that they previously set the expectation of what's within the rules and what's not with the micro stakes vpp promotion last year, which team online pro, Chiren80 and another SNE reg found a loophole to allow them to accrue vpps at a faster rate than normal.

IIRC, technically no rules were broken, and no other players were adversely affected by their play, yet Star's still went ahead and punished both players. Ok, so the average rec/fish wouldn't know this, but probably most SNE chasers and large volume Supernovas would have read about it. PokerStars determined back then, what was ok and what is not.

Hence why no Team Pro/Online Pro would even dare try do what these two guys did, nor would any of us SNEs and high volume players openly risk our vip statuses and resort to 'fast-folding' with an accomplice on 24 HU tables in order to bink the big milestone hand.

All those ppl who are saying, fair play to those guys, they were smart and didn't break the rules don't even realise this. The better informed regs knew this was a grey area, and didn't proceed to go down that route.

Those guys had nothing to lose, except maybe a small amount of $ in their account to attempt this.

      
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