Official 2009 Supernova Elite pursuit thread - Page 19 - Internet Poker

Just been looking at a few numbers for SNE, assuming i make around 100,000 VPP's between now and April, would it even be remotely possible to make elite by playing (the rest of the year)

a) .5/1 NL 6 max (approx amount of hands)
b) 1/2 NL 6 max (approx amount of hands)

Basically the scenario would be needing to make 900,000 VPP's between April-December 31st.

a) 2.6 million
b) 2 million

Those are what they would be for me playing 19/16 and somewhat (but not very) aggressive postflop while 16 tabling all fast tables. If you will be playing tighter, then SFCell's estimates are more accurate for you.

As for being doable, if you can play 1550 hands an hour (which is what you will probably get playing 16 fast speed) then it would take a little over 6 hours a day at NL100 6-max. Only you know if you are capable of doing that.

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01-05-2009 , 03:56 PM

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Troy Gamble

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if i earn 100k vpp's by feb. 1st.... how many days ahead of pace am i?

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01-05-2009 , 04:02 PM

#453

Mischman

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Originally Posted by Troy Gamble

if i earn 100k vpp's by feb. 1st.... how many days ahead of pace am i?

If you cant figure this out, you shouldn't be SNE!

(~15k, 2 Days)

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01-05-2009 , 04:05 PM

#454

Say_Yeahh

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Originally Posted by MegaFossil

Yeah, i really want to give myself a chance this year of hitting SNE but i'm unable to play a ton of hands for a few months due to personal reasons.

I think i'm going to focus on building my bankroll for the next few months, for when i'm able to get hands in and start my quest for SNE.

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01-05-2009 , 04:15 PM

#455

Scottyy

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Top VPPs for 2009

36,800
34,023
31,762
29,745
29,505
27,606
26,985
26,602
26,395
26,100
25,175
24,823
24,607
24,488
24,403
24,150
23,911
23,635
23,587
23,291
23,253
23,223
23,213
23,107
23,038
22,840
22,827
22,175
21,895
21,866
21,656
21,620
21,238
21,036
20,850
20,807
20,655
20,484
20,427
20,327
20,306
20,097

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01-05-2009 , 04:26 PM

#456

SFCellman

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Originally Posted by Troy Gamble

if i earn 100k vpp's by feb. 1st.... how many days ahead of pace am i?

You'd be about 15,000 vpps ahead of pace, at 2750/day, about a week ahead of schedule.

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01-05-2009 , 04:33 PM

#457

MicroBob

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If I need to earn 2750 per day and I earn only 2746 on one of my days then how far behind pace was I for that day? I can't figure it out. Can someone help me do these complex calculations? Thanks.

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01-05-2009 , 04:36 PM

#458

skillgambler

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

If I need to earn 2750 per day and I earn only 2746 on one of my days then how far behind pace was I for that day? I can't figure it out. Can someone help me do these complex calculations? Thanks.

pretty sure you're way off pace and should just give up

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01-05-2009 , 04:37 PM

#459

MicroBob

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But how much off-pace am I? Anyone?

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01-05-2009 , 04:38 PM

#460

GT30

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Bob, your 4pts behind....but let's get this guy to verify it...lol

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Originally Posted by Mischman

If you cant figure this out, you shouldn't be SNE!

(~15k, 2 Days)

7.5k a day pace lol

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01-05-2009 , 04:41 PM

#461

Hodge05

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11k through 4 days.

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01-05-2009 , 04:45 PM

#462

aoFrantic

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Finishing this essay is ****ing with my brain.
Yeah, that was rlly stupid/obvious of a distinction, oh well.

+1 on extra notice for dbl vpp week, lots of people can play double their normal hours getting 4x the vpp that week they usually would, if not more (possibly less then 4x on second thought with how nitty the games were last yr)

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01-05-2009 , 04:46 PM

#463

mstrbball

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what mouse are you mass multi tablers using??? how long do they last? I've been going through mice every 5-7 weeks. Is that normal?

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01-05-2009 , 04:47 PM

#464

ActionFreak

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Originally Posted by JWorth

idk if this is only for him, but if you say $2k i'll make SNE without playing a sng.

$2k is too much.. but I do think that it will be difficult for someone who made SNE primarily off of SNGs to make it again without playing any SNGs. Also, $500 (or much more probably) won't stop anyone from playing SNGs when they get tired of grinding whatever else they are playing in a few months.

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01-05-2009 , 04:47 PM

#465

Say_Yeahh

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is there any pattern in previous years for when the double VPP weeks take place?

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01-05-2009 , 04:53 PM

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zachvac

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lol this is so easy. 5 days in and I'm not even 5k behind pace yet.

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01-05-2009 , 04:54 PM

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marimba man

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Top 20 imo

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01-05-2009 , 04:55 PM

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zachvac

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Originally Posted by MicroBob

But how much off-pace am I? Anyone?

I think you're actually ahead of pace, but I really don't know. It's kind of advanced math, doubt I could ever figure it out

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01-05-2009 , 04:58 PM

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de captain

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Originally Posted by mstrbball

what mouse are you mass multi tablers using??? how long do they last? I've been going through mice every 5-7 weeks. Is that normal?

they last longer once you stop throwing them at the wall.

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01-05-2009 , 05:15 PM

#470

MicroBob

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Originally Posted by mstrbball

what mouse are you mass multi tablers using??? how long do they last? I've been going through mice every 5-7 weeks. Is that normal?

WTF? I just use a regular cheapo type mouse I buy from Walmart or Office Max. Some logitech deal that costs maybe $30 or $40 or something and takees a AA battery. Are you throwing mouses out when the battery dies or something?

I don't use the mouse that hard because I use an AHK for a keypad too so it's kind of a combo mouse and keypad thing for my playing. But even when I would 12-20 table just using the mouse I would say they typically would last me a year or two. I want to say this is my 3rd mouse or so in about 5 years and it's usually because the little USB thing breaks when I bumped it or something like that.

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01-05-2009 , 05:31 PM

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SFCellman

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Originally Posted by mstrbball

what mouse are you mass multi tablers using??? how long do they last? I've been going through mice every 5-7 weeks. Is that normal?

The bluetooth Intellimouse has lasted 3 years and no signs of wear

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Originally Posted by Say_Yeahh

is there any pattern in previous years for when the double VPP weeks take place?

There MAY be a pattern.

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01-05-2009 , 05:38 PM

#472

Tryptamean

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got about 13k VPPs from 1/2-1/4... just wanted to get a feel for what the pace was like, but this seems quite doable at my stakes/games...

6 tabled 15/30-50/100 LHE 6max and FR mixed, avg about 640 VPP/hr

also, +$12k, EZ game!

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01-05-2009 , 06:02 PM

#473

ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

I find the table ratings site pretty interesting, but I agree that it's probably not good for the game.

I'd prefer a fish to keep the mistaken belief that he's a slightly winning or break-even player rather than be able to see that he's actually lost several thousand dollars.

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Originally Posted by ment52

So you think a fish is, instead of a normal guy trying to have fun, a mentally disabled drooler, who has no idea how to add numbers? Those people, who cant add together the amount they've deposited, will never find out about a site like tableratings.

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Originally Posted by ChrisTC

LOL, and how exactly are they going to believe this? When they have to keep redepositing money they can't exactly be "slightly winning".
Losing players know they lose money, and knowing how much exactly they've lost will just make them more determined to "win it back".

It's quite possible for losing players to be unaware that there are losing players. Even losing players withdraw from time to time, especially losing players benefiting from a VIP program such as at Stars. Regular bonuses are typically going to result in a withdrawal being made.

Also, many losing players actually see a slight profit once their bonuses are taken into account.

In general unless a player, winning or otherwise, keeps detailed records of each session then they are fairly likely to have an inaccurate picture of how well they do. And people have a natural tendency to believe that they're doing better than they actually are.

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01-05-2009 , 06:08 PM

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ROM Amnesty

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Originally Posted by Claedeus

Well i dont post that much but.. i may be in i have 15k vpp right now (only nl50 i have time to play lot lot)

but common i never took so many bad beat since i play poker, 5 days of play for a -12 buy in or something...

Enjoy

PokerStars Game #23552619932: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2009/01/04 1:16:19 ET
Table 'Skiff' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Quadfours ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 2: seadragon68 ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Claedeus ($30.45 in chips)
Seat 4: rebelll ($32.80 in chips)
Seat 5: fullalves ($73.20 in chips)
Seat 6: yaokhmmmmm ($50.50 in chips)
Seat 7: thedon10048 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 8: WUPLEY ($48.90 in chips)
Seat 9: Laropoke ($50 in chips)
seadragon68: posts small blind $0.25
Claedeus: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Claedeus [As Ad]
rebelll: calls $0.50
fullalves: calls $0.50
yaokhmmmmm: folds
thedon10048: folds
WUPLEY: raises $1.50 to $2
Laropoke: folds
Quadfours: folds
seadragon68: folds
Claedeus: raises $6 to $8
rebelll: folds
fullalves: calls $7.50 call 16bb hmmm
WUPLEY: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Jd 5c]
Claedeus: bets $13.50
fullalves: raises $51.70 to $65.20 and is all-in
Claedeus: calls $8.95 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($42.75) returned to fullalves
*** TURN *** [8c Jd 5c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [8c Jd 5c 9c] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Claedeus: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
fullalves: shows [6s 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
fullalves collected $60.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $63.65 | Rake $3
Board [8c Jd 5c 9c 9d]
Seat 1: Quadfours (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: seadragon68 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Claedeus (big blind) showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: rebelll folded before Flop
Seat 5: fullalves showed [6s 9s] and won ($60.65) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: yaokhmmmmm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: thedon10048 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: WUPLEY folded before Flop
Seat 9: Laropoke folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Serisouly....