I like that idea as well sort of has a gaming feel to it, becomes about being the best, not the money.

does anyone know whether or not there are any working HUDs on ftp atm? i wanna start playing already but don't wanna feel as if I'm at an unfair disadvantage, so if no one is using a hud then its fair

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your username doesn't happen to start with Y and end with O right? or E and T?

so you can't obs tables anymore ?

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about 3 years ago i verfiied my account on fulltilt. Now i wanted to cashout and they requesting again my documents. WTF is this s***?

I appreciate Syous' idea but it is in complete opposition to what FTP is trying to do here (a goal I don't dislike as much as its implementation). Creating this heads up arena turns the site into more of a shark tank than ever before. It incentivizes the absolute best pro's to dominate the lobby, and as I said before, turns poker into chess. It is BAD for the site if it becomes a pure skill game where the best dominate the lobby and everyone else who wants to play has only the best to go up against which is where this kind of idea leads.

It's literally the backward from what FTP should want from heads up games which I think they should figure out a way to work into their model. They should want new players playing weak regs and new players playing other new players. They don't want a system where any new player that signs up for the 'arena' basically knows it's chess against a grand master. There is a reason that there isn't big money gambling in chess. The king of the hill model completely kills the spirit of gambling so many recreational players enjoy.

Again, I hope FTP doesn't go the way of party as I think segregating has very bad long term consequences for all, site included, but the goal should be to make the games SOFTER for new players so they can actually ****ing win from time to time. Ideas like this just make it even more impossible.

terrible idea imo. its the complete opposite of that ftp is trying to achieve

Surely they got rid of HU in order to bring it back 3 weeks later with a giant promotion to lure even teh recreationals which havent played HU b4 into playing HU 😂😂😂

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If / when they do realize how big of a mistake this turns out to be, they will hopefully have the guts to admit it and change course.

Wtf @ micro rake. Allin at 2nl and get raked 50bb?

if you're all in 4 ways, or all in 200bb deep, yes

edit - ignore, see below

All-In 2-ways 400 bb deep, so that the pot would be $16, no ?

er, yeah, for some reason i was thinking the bb was 1 cent. my bad. you're right, it would need to be a $16 pot

222 Cash Players online !

probably the wrong type of weather

A simple look at the lobby shows that is not the case. It has been noted several times in the thread that Pokerscout hasn't updated to count individual tables under the main stake.

how? This system is generates revenue. You either sit and play or you don't sit at all.

FTP doesn't care about bumhunters. They take out more money than they deposit and fleece fish. When you have the ability to open as many tables as you want, there's very little incentive to play other regs.

Under this system, you either start playing them or you quit

Whether or not the bumhunters quit poker, there would be infinitely more HU action going on under this type of game

10nl rake looks okay. For example iPoker has higher rake at 10nl.
Don't know about the lowest micros.

So far I'm fine with the changes I'm seeing in the ring games. I'd rather the table limit was upped a little from the maximum of 6 of each game type though.

Also, for anyone who uses HEM2 there was a problem with the hud only appearing on some tables after the upate but there is a fix out today for this. I've still to try it out though

Does anyone know how long it takes between sitting out at a table and being kicked from it?

I think the latest update was a good move, even if a few things clearly can be improved.

Not allowing spectators is TERRIBLE for any game or sports. Removing nosebleeds will drive even more players to Stars, intended or not. The way to play HU online is SNG tournaments, where you play a pre-defined match without hitting and running or blind stealing.

Short stack games, if offered at all, should be 30bb min, making a simple preflop pushing strategy ineffective. Remember Harrington: with an M of 20 you are a (nearly) fully functional poker player.

To the main change: I always preferred actually playing to spending hours with table selection. And I hate excessive multitablers who destroy the game for anyone playing at normal speed. If you are beating your stakes while 24-tabling, move up and play real poker!

I doubt winrates will change much. Zoom/Rush poker is far from dead and works the same way. As long as there is a game, there will always be winners and losers. The fish lose to serious recreational players at almost the same rate as to professionals. Fighting professionals will just make poker less and less popular.

Professional poker actually means exploiting carelessness of wealthy people, as well as general overconfidence. I don't see anything wrong with this. If everyone finally ends up at the stakes where he belongs, there will be no real money to be made and much less games. No change to game structure will prevent this but for any foreseeable future such a world is pure fantasy...

Literally peak time for the entire weak and between all forms of poker there is a grand total of one table of 2/5+ running. I'm sure that is low even for this update but this would almost never have been the case before the update.

The update successfully cleans up the lobby at the huge expense of making it harder to play in a game you actually want to play in. If a reg or rec signs in and wants to play a stake where one or zero people are sitting, they will know it will be a long wait to play and that discourages them from playing at all. It's especially absurd to not allow the starting of tables for two people. There are a ton of players that don't have the patience to go on a list and just wait. They want to play right away and it will feel ridiculous when there is someone else sitting there and they cannot just start playing.

yes.

and I'm hoping they don't touch the SNGs

btw, any answer on if FTP ever plans to offer a hide bankroll feature?