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02-12-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
Found it.

Internet Gambling produced $9.5 million in January revenue, up 28% from December's $7.4 million.

It's growing. Borgata leads $3.9 million, Caesar's is #2 with just over $3 million.

They don't breakout poker from the casino games but it looks as if the casino games are producing a decent % of the revenue. (Golden Nugget and Trop are casino only).
Goat
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02-12-2014 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by duathlon
I'm still baffled by NJ geolocation issues and the lack of helpful info from WSOP and Borgata. Several different sites list my IP address as NJ, I can see 2-10 external wifi networks at any one time, and I can still rarely play online. This is true whether I'm using Windows 8 or a Mac.

Do these long range wifi extenders really help? What % of the NJ player pool is being shut out of the poker market?
One of the things that "isn't talked about" is how the Geo Locator people determine what WIFIs are in NJ. These companies buy the list of WIFI positions from Google and Apple. Apple and Google collect this data from our phones. As a phone moves through an area, the WIFI signals and their strength are noted along with the GPS position of the phone. The actual position of the WIFI signals are triangulated (based on the change in strength at each data point). You can opt out of this by turning off the location services on your phone. However, if you are having trouble connecting, you may want to turn it on for a while so that your location makes it (eventually) to the Geo Locator's database. I don't know how long that takes, but make sure it is on for a few days.
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02-12-2014 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Beefeater
Anyone? I want to know how often (and on which sites) i can consistently find 5/10NL action (and UP?).
WSOP and party/borg are your best bets.. some fish too
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02-12-2014 , 07:47 PM
One number of interest is approximately 198,000 accounts have been setup. If on average 4 sites per user that would be about 50,000 players for poker and casino games.

If the average goes higher because poker players are signed up at all 6 sites, the total decreases substantially to 30,000. Not a huge number in a state with 9 million residents.
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02-12-2014 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
Found it.

Internet Gambling produced $9.5 million in January revenue, up 28% from December's $7.4 million.

It's growing. Borgata leads $3.9 million, Caesar's is #2 with just over $3 million.

They don't breakout poker from the casino games but it looks as if the casino games are producing a decent % of the revenue. (Golden Nugget and Trop are casino only).
Link please?
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02-12-2014 , 09:12 PM
[QUOTE=raradevils;42154314]Link please?[/QUO

NJ DGE Site under "DGE News". It's a PDF file.
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02-12-2014 , 10:43 PM
Just got my $10 buy-in from the 5:30 event tonight back. Seems like they've cut down the turnaround time on that.
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02-12-2014 , 11:31 PM
6 more entries in the 10pm $10 buy in $500 guarantee on UP makes it become a freeroll.

Edit Nevermind. I thought you could buy in for an hour, but it's only 30 minutes.
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02-13-2014 , 04:31 AM
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02-13-2014 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bishop22
Weee 100%/$300 reload on Borgata clears at 25% RB! Code: Winterstorm
Yea too bad all of my deposits on that site get declined, how do they expect fish to ever deposit, if regs can't even get money on. Mindblown
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02-13-2014 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brilliant27
Yea too bad all of my deposits on that site get declined, how do they expect fish to ever deposit, if regs can't even get money on. Mindblown
I have a TD bank linked via instant echeck, easy in easy out.
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02-13-2014 , 11:04 AM
John Mehaffey of USPoker.com has an article breaking down the Revenue numbers for January.

Not surprisingly when he breaks out Poker Rake versus Casino revenue, The Casino games are generating more. Total Revenue - $9,461,057.

$3,442,271 in Poker Rake. That is 36.4% of the online revenue.

To some this may be a surprise. Online poker may be the draw for some, especially 2+2ers, but casino games are the big contributor, just like the B&M.

No wonder the TV commercials are slanted to the casino games.

Weirdest but not necessarily surprising, Betfair's Poker Rake for January was $11. $90 Total so far. The Betfair casino games generated $550K+.

Mehaffey says his source is NJDGE.
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02-13-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
John Mehaffey of USPoker.com has an article breaking down the Revenue numbers for January.

Not surprisingly when he breaks out Poker Rake versus Casino revenue, The Casino games are generating more. Total Revenue - $9,461,057.

$3,442,271 in Poker Rake. That is 36.4% of the online revenue.

To some this may be a surprise. Online poker may be the draw for some, especially 2+2ers, but casino games are the big contributor, just like the B&M.

No wonder the TV commercials are slanted to the casino games.

Weirdest but not necessarily surprising, Betfair's Poker Rake for January was $11. $90 Total so far. The Betfair casino games generated $550K+.

Mehaffey says his source is NJDGE.
You also have to account for the huge promos though cutting into the poker rake. for example 500k in freerolls on WSOP plus 10's of thousands in overlays. 80% rakeback promotion on 888 and they have given away hundreds of thousands in freeroll money. also numbers sound about right. i gave WSOP around 2k in rake and 6.5k in casino games lol
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02-13-2014 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
John Mehaffey of USPoker.com has an article breaking down the Revenue numbers for January.

Not surprisingly when he breaks out Poker Rake versus Casino revenue, The Casino games are generating more. Total Revenue - $9,461,057.

$3,442,271 in Poker Rake. That is 36.4% of the online revenue.

To some this may be a surprise. Online poker may be the draw for some, especially 2+2ers, but casino games are the big contributor, just like the B&M.

No wonder the TV commercials are slanted to the casino games.

Weirdest but not necessarily surprising, Betfair's Poker Rake for January was $11. $90 Total so far. The Betfair casino games generated $550K+.

Mehaffey says his source is NJDGE.
This is why that fed bill to regulate poker while banning all other gaming online would have been huge for us (although I don't agree with it in principle). I mean, I'm sure some degens would just say "I don't like poker" and continue going to B&Ms for their fix, but just think of all the people who would just go ahead and play with a 95% VPIP because they like to gambool.
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02-13-2014 , 04:26 PM
its amazing, i never can confirm I'm in NJ when playing poker, but when i play roulette and BJ I have no problem with the software and geolocation. Ive given up on the poker and just gonna dust off my account or run it up in the online pits.
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02-13-2014 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bishop22
Weee 100%/$300 reload on Borgata clears at 25% RB! Code: Winterstorm
Days to clear?
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02-13-2014 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BK1248
its amazing, i never can confirm I'm in NJ when playing poker, but when i play roulette and BJ I have no problem with the software and geolocation. Ive given up on the poker and just gonna dust off my account or run it up in the online pits.
Are you serious? This sounds so shady on their part
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02-13-2014 , 09:34 PM
Currently freerolling the UP $20 buyin $1k - registration until 9:30.
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02-13-2014 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by binkjobOBV
the action on these sites is ridiculous. even the fish are weak/tight fish. nobody pays you off.. the only way to get action is to raise every hand until some rec player decides to grow an ego and play back. its basically a live 1-2 game. people just limp calling to hit. i cannot tell you how many times i ended up stacking myself isolating with AQ when 3 ppl limp.. and i get called on an A high board and i 3 barrel and they check call all the way down with AK. how is that even possible? i have HEM2 and i still cannot put anyone on a fkn hand. these games are gambling.. its not even poker in my opinion.

and this coming from someone who was a reg at 3-6 on merge for about 2 years. those games were sick.. this absolutely blows.
You realize that people who are limp calling to hit flops are some of the most profitable players to play against, right? You can easily barrel them off much of their range while assuring that your big hands get paid when they actually flop a hand they're comfortable with.

It's a different way to play than you might be used to, but poker is fundamentally about exploiting mistakes, and these guys make a ton of them. It shouldn't be hard to make a profit.
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02-13-2014 , 11:44 PM
My Geolocation update:

I am usually told I can't play online, but sometimes I get a session in on Borgata that may range from 5 minutes to 1 hour. I can almost never play on WSOP. WSOP support is 100% worthless. The support at Borgata is slightly better, but I get one response every 24 hours that does very little to help. I've been told there are several reasons why I can't play online - all different ones from Borgata:

1 - "My IP address is California." Everytime I check online it shows New Jersey.
2 - "I'm too close to the state line." I'm 5 miles away.
3 - "I've played in two different places and that's the reason I can't play." I played at one location for the first 2 days I was here and I was able to play without any problems. Now that I'm playing at a different address I'm having problems. Would they really block someone for moving their computer? And if this really was their policy, why would I still be able to play part of the time?

It's amazing that the answer always changes, and these are the best answers they can come up with. I don't know where else to turn for help. WSOP doesn't give a bleep whether I can play or not. Is there phone support for WSOP or Borgata?

My understanding is that both WSOP and Borgata use Geocomply for their geolocation. If so, why does Borgata let me play when WSOP doesn't?
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02-14-2014 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowmonster
One of the things that "isn't talked about" is how the Geo Locator people determine what WIFIs are in NJ. These companies buy the list of WIFI positions from Google and Apple. Apple and Google collect this data from our phones. As a phone moves through an area, the WIFI signals and their strength are noted along with the GPS position of the phone. The actual position of the WIFI signals are triangulated (based on the change in strength at each data point). You can opt out of this by turning off the location services on your phone. However, if you are having trouble connecting, you may want to turn it on for a while so that your location makes it (eventually) to the Geo Locator's database. I don't know how long that takes, but make sure it is on for a few days.
Check PM's
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02-14-2014 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by loxitup
Are you serious? This sounds so shady on their part

100% true ,I played for hours yesterday and no problems with roulette. Not only that they must have seen my post and finally emailed me back after 2 weeks of waiting for a pm response from the party rep moron. Such a joke.

And their blackjack rules are dealer hit's soft 17 for another .2% edge in their favor.
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02-14-2014 , 11:30 AM
Just to make sure, you can use Ultimate Bucks in the NOverlay tournies and still get your buyin back, right?

So far I've played a couple tournies and I have to say, no matter how good these promos are they're just not going to be competitive until their software improves. No note-taking and no hand replayer is just a non-starter for a lot of people. When the value of the tournies goes back down to normal, what's going to keep people playing on the site aside from the U$ dollars that they have to use?
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02-14-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aislephive
Just to make sure, you can use Ultimate Bucks in the NOverlay tournies and still get your buyin back, right?

So far I've played a couple tournies and I have to say, no matter how good these promos are they're just not going to be competitive until their software improves. No note-taking and no hand replayer is just a non-starter for a lot of people. When the value of the tournies goes back down to normal, what's going to keep people playing on the site aside from the U$ dollars that they have to use?
Yes, you can use U dollars to enter the NO-verlay tourneys; and you will get U dollars back if the guarantee is met.

I PMed Terrence Chan regarding UP suggestions recently. He directed me to Scott Yeates. He makes all the decisions about promotions, what games and tournaments to spread, as well as the parameters of those games. I am going to contact Scott in the near future. I will ask him if I can post his contact info if you are interested.
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02-14-2014 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by donnie5
Days to clear?
30 Days to clear Winterstorm bonus
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