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01-15-2014 , 02:26 PM
been to two different starbucks in NJ, both times Borgata poker and WSOP are saying i am not in NJ. Anyone know what the problem is, and how I can play?
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01-15-2014 , 02:30 PM
is there rakeback on these sites? What is the max amount of tables you can play? Im sure its been answered, but thread is too long to scan through whole thing
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01-15-2014 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Senzu
been to two different starbucks in NJ, both times Borgata poker and WSOP are saying i am not in NJ. Anyone know what the problem is, and how I can play?
Dunking Donuts usually work
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01-15-2014 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinky
Sobering news. Other states will not be swayed to join in with these numbers.
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01-15-2014 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkElf
Sobering news. Other states will not be swayed to join in with these numbers.
I would wait to see what the numbers are like in March to come to any conclusion. This will give plenty of time for adds to work as well as geo location issues, since they are getting better all the time.
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01-15-2014 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
I would wait to see what the numbers are like in March to come to any conclusion. This will give plenty of time for adds to work as well as geo location issues, since they are getting better all the time.
This, the article said that casinos were not on track but they were probably just comparing that to (projected/month) and not taking into account that the first month will probably be the lowest month.
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01-15-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
I would wait to see what the numbers are like in March to come to any conclusion. This will give plenty of time for adds to work as well as geo location issues, since they are getting better all the time.
I think it's safe to come to a conclusion. They are going to be about a billion off that 1.2 billion estimate.

Maybe they need new number crunchers. Maybe Borgata just figured they could roll out the tables and everyone would just come. I'm a very loyal Borgata live player. They had to work not to get my online business, and they succeeded.
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01-15-2014 , 04:44 PM
In before they decide they only way to fix it is to double the rake.
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01-15-2014 , 05:00 PM
The numbers are, of course, inconclusive. This is a startup from scratch, a beginning.

Until this month only a few promotions, commercials, etc. have popped up. The only aggressive sites have been Borgata and Caesars. But it is interesting that Tropicana generated $650K in Casino Games only.

$1.2 Billion Revenue? ($100 million a month) They must have been in Colorado when they pulled out that number.That would be adding over 33% to Atlantic City's present casino numbers. Per Capita for New Jersey residents about a $110 contribution per year.

The initial push and participation is from casino gamers and poker players. If taking into consideration the number of reported accounts set up - approximately 150,000 round numbers, each individual setting up an average of 6 sites (thinking poker players only here), that means only 25,000 actual players have begun the experiment. Population of New Jersey is about 9 million rounded up. 9,000,000.

Take into consideration the continuous downward spiral of casino business in New Jersey, the magic bullet will have a tough time squeezing additional funds from NJ residents. It will have to come from New Jersey guests. Will online spike after Memorial Day?

After seeing the Trop Number, wonder how much of Borgata and Caesar's internet revenues are Casino Games? At least the same? That would mean at least $2 million in casino games revenue? The breakout number will be interesting when and if DGE reports internet revenue the same as the B&M. (Figures are broken down by, slots, table, poker, etc. in the monthly reports.)

We should hope they succeed if you enjoy playing online poker. This hasn't been a good week for Governor CC.

Last edited by PALLADINN; 01-15-2014 at 05:05 PM. Reason: sp
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01-15-2014 , 05:19 PM
Also: If revenues are so disappointing and casinos are still on the verge of failing, perhaps it's time for another company--say, one that's had tons of experience, great brand recognition, flush with cash, and has previously shown great interest in buying out troubled properties to keep them afloat--to finally get approved and brought into the fold.
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01-15-2014 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pipes
I think it's safe to come to a conclusion. They are going to be about a billion off that 1.2 billion estimate.

Maybe they need new number crunchers. Maybe Borgata just figured they could roll out the tables and everyone would just come. I'm a very loyal Borgata live player. They had to work not to get my online business, and they succeeded.
I know you like to complain itt, but I am genuinely curious what they did to not get your online business.
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01-15-2014 , 05:59 PM
Whatever poker revenue numbers are produced you can basically assume it would have been a 2x that if Pokerstars had a license.
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01-15-2014 , 06:00 PM
It's up to a 10 year experiment iirc. We'll be ok.
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01-15-2014 , 06:29 PM
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It's up to a 10 year experiment iirc. We'll be ok.
Oh sure. It's not like they're gonna yank the rug out from under us anytime remotely soon. But it would be nice if the success came before AC turns into a wasteland, with its remaining couple of casinos surrounded by barbed wire.
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01-15-2014 , 06:37 PM
I just stopped at a pizza place in Cherry Hill. This was on the door

Edit... Ugh that was supposed to be a pic for an ad for WSOP... and the pizza box was an ad for WSOP as well.
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01-15-2014 , 06:46 PM
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I just stopped at a pizza place in Cherry Hill. This was on the door

Edit... Ugh that was supposed to be a pic for an ad for WSOP... and the pizza box was an ad for WSOP as well.
Making me hungry for some pizza and wings for tonight's grind. Edit: Pics or it didn't happen imo
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01-15-2014 , 07:41 PM
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Making me hungry for some pizza and wings for tonight's grind. Edit: Pics or it didn't happen imo
Pass me a wing, I'm sure I'll be on your right.

(Actually I'm taking the night off)
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01-15-2014 , 11:08 PM
Of course the numbers are down because these sites all suck. I'm in NJ playing bovado because borgata sucks and can't tell I'm in NJ. Party always sucked just the games were so good no one cared.

Ive pretty much given up playing NJ online, and I came down to visit specifically to play online. We need Pokerstars.
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01-16-2014 , 01:47 AM
Is it even worth it to sign up for this publicity stunt? Who wants to put up with a mess for all this other stuff going on? I mean they wont even let in stars cause they still want to be in control.
Don't u guys hate being told what to do all the time?
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01-16-2014 , 02:39 AM
Does party VIP system suck yes 8% RB i get more from my hoes on the street. But the games are hustlin and bustlin and plenty of fish for everyone to. Half of the geolocation issues are false positives from Remote control softwares do some soul searching.
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01-16-2014 , 11:26 AM
Another Party Poker "It's your fault, fix it".

Geo-location is based on IP? Getting double talk. They use whatever answer that may meet the supposed criteria. I have taken the PP Rep's advice, and have contacted PP customer service.

PP says that I was knocked off mid-tournaments, and not let back on after playing for more than 2.5 hours, because my IP is dynamic, and PP can not identify IP if it changes mid-session. (??) This may be why you have to sign off and restart computer? We are talking laptop.

In addition they "suggest" in order to resolve the problem, yours, you should contact the IP, and have them change your IP to a static one. Did that.

My IP, definitely the largest in my area, says that the service, static, is not available to residential customers even at a cost. It is only available to business customers. And, by the way, the dynamic IP is changed only once every 24 hours at a consistent time, that was not the time when my glitches occurred.

Software whiz I am not. Responsibility is being avoided by PP IMHO. I believe it is a software problem not an IP problem.

The bottom line is:
How can I invest in any tournament that I have to pay for entry? Why should I make deposits and support this site?
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01-16-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
Another Party Poker "It's your fault, fix it".

Geo-location is based on IP? Getting double talk. They use whatever answer that may meet the supposed criteria. I have taken the PP Rep's advice, and have contacted PP customer service.

PP says that I was knocked off mid-tournaments, and not let back on after playing for more than 2.5 hours, because my IP is dynamic, and PP can not identify IP if it changes mid-session. (??) This may be why you have to sign off and restart computer? We are talking laptop.

In addition they "suggest" in order to resolve the problem, yours, you should contact the IP, and have them change your IP to a static one. Did that.

My IP, definitely the largest in my area, says that the service, static, is not available to residential customers even at a cost. It is only available to business customers. And, by the way, the dynamic IP is changed only once every 24 hours at a consistent time, that was not the time when my glitches occurred.

Software whiz I am not. Responsibility is being avoided by PP IMHO. I believe it is a software problem not an IP problem.

The bottom line is:
How can I invest in any tournament that I have to pay for entry? Why should I make deposits and support this site?
who is your ISP?
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01-16-2014 , 11:44 AM
It's really rare that your public IP would change at all unless you power off/on your Cable/DSL modem (and usually for more than a few minutes, at that), or your ISP is making some kind of system-wide changes.

You can always visit http://www.whatismyip.com to quickly see what your public-facing IP is; try doing it when first starting your session, then again after encountering a problem, so you can totally rule it out and tell PP that they're FOS.
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01-16-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GMan42
It's really rare that your public IP would change at all unless you power off/on your Cable/DSL modem (and usually for more than a few minutes, at that), or your ISP is making some kind of system-wide changes.

You can always visit http://www.whatismyip.com to quickly see what your public-facing IP is; try doing it when first starting your session, then again after encountering a problem, so you can totally rule it out and tell PP that they're FOS.
It is a system wide change that Comcast Infinity does in order to solidify their claim for added security. Just in their protocol.

I have already told PP they are FOS.
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