how does partypoker have so many players? is this just nj ppl on this, or other ppl around the world as well?

Your worried about what time the ITM participants of a NJ Regulated online Poker Tournament have to stay up until, because they may have to work tmro.......yet your posting on 2+2 at 1am ???

I'd have to agree it's pretty dumb to start this so late. It missed the guarantee by $18,000 and won't be over until 3 or 4 AM. It'd likely meet the guarantee if it started earlier.

Was curious to see if any of these sites had that feature actually, but after looking around on Party and not being able to find it, I assumed it wasn't an option. Anyone know if Party has this option too? If so, where?

Just people in NJ. Traffic wise, id say I'm extremely pleased with the start. Playing mtts on bovada as well helps with my volume, please let bovada stay around at least another yearrrrr. Think I'll have to get a 55inch grind screen instead of the 47inch that I have.

You've rather lost me with this - 2+2ers have always referred to separate, competing sites operating on the same network as skins. What you're calling "skins of the same cage" isn't something I can ever recall having seen before - do you have any examples of this?

So there was a 50k on party but not borgata? Why?

+1

The sites continue to move up the ladder, far out pacing Nevada sites. Wait till the adds really start kicking in.....



Traffic these next 2 weeks could be artificially higher with the added players stopping for the WSOP events running in AC.


Any word on winner of first Sunday Main running in NJ on any of the sites?

When I was on last night, there were over 5000 players online for Borgata. According to your image, over 4,500 were 'lookie loos'? How do they calculate peak times?

It may be listed here someplace how they calculate numbers: http://www.pokerscout.com/

That's where I'm getting my screen images from.

This goes a way back.

http://www.professional-poker.com/ne...inum-poker.htm

The date for that news report was 2004. At that time, TT had three cages (Victor Chandler, Golden Palace, and Platinum Poker). Each cage had numerous brands (what most people called skins) underneath it.

Skin owners were kind of like "super affiliates". They paid a fee, customized their client, and had a limited say about promotions; in return they got a small commission when players played on their client. But most of the revenues went to the company that operated the cage. And player deposits were with the cages, not the skins.

Victor Chandler didn't give a hoot as to which one of it's skins it's players played on. But it didn't want it's players to play on Golden Nugget.

To summarize, there are many possible relationships between two sites operating on the same network.

According to the FAQ:

Both sites run separate promotions as well as combined events. It is a way to separate the two as independent operators.

In most instances you are playing with Party and Borgata players. At no time, at the present, can you be on both sites at the same time.

You are dealing with separate bankrolls, separate bonuses, separate customer service, etc.

I used to play on Tribeca (geez I miss those days), but I don't remember (or wasn't aware of) that extra layer - thanks for the link. It sounds like just an extra layer of licensing, but the exact mechanism doesn't really matter for this conversation.

Basically, I'm pretty sure everyone is correctly understanding the way Party & Borgata work, whether they choose to call them "skins" or "cages". AFAIK, they are separate businesses, sharing a common player pool, much the way other networks operate these days. If there used to be a model where a site had skins that didn't compete, that doesn't really exist on a wide-scale basis any more. I suppose the exceptions would be networks that own a few skins, but usually they are still competing, at least as far as the end user is concerned.

Edit to add: Now that I think about it, that kind of relationship has existed on other networks and I believe still does. But they were always in competition, much as I think the ones you're talking about were. Just because there is a "middle man" between the skin and the network doesn't change the fact that each skin is competing with one another. But either way, that relationship doesn't apply here, and the fact that people are calling them "skins" doesn't mean they are implying any such relationship. I've been on these forums for 7 1/2 years, reading almost anything site-related in this forum for that time, and would like to think I'm on top of the terminology - I can't remember anyone using the term "cages" the way you are, at least not for the last few years, and what people call "skins" have usually, if not always, been in competition.

do any of the NJ sites support PT or HEM?

party/borgata

any tech savvy players in here?

im on dell auction.. bout to buy two monitors and a desktop.

Optiplex or Precision?

How do i know im going to be able to hook up two monitors to the drive?

forgot to mention i posted it here cause im moving to jersey in two weeks haha.. need the set up!!

Cages were not "middle men". They were one of the principal players in the equation. The other one being Tribeca Tables that provided the shared platform.

Doyle's Room was a cage, and also the main brand name of the cage. Pure Platinum Poker was another brand name in the Doyle cage. The difference between the two brands were almost completely cosmetic.

If you played on Pure Platinum Poker, your money was held by Doyle's Room. DR and TriBeCa got the lion's share of the rake and fees.

I used to play on FTP on my NJT commute each day. I tried playing today on the train for the first time since Black Friday tethering my laptop to my phone, and my ATT iPhone IP address is showing as NY. Is there any chance this can be fixed by ATT to show my IP address as NJ, or am I at their mercy as to what IP address I am showing?

If it can't be fixed, i am willing to buy an air card with another provider (Verizon, Tmobile whoever) but I want to make sure it will show a NJ IP address. Anyone have any experience/knowledge?

I can almost guarantee that you will take a few buy-ins off me if I am playing, so help me get going.

Anyone having issues logging on this morning? Borgata, WSOP, & 888 all give me a message they are having trouble locating me. Ultimate works fine but an awful site. I'm in Essex county and haven't had any issues at all until today.

Alright, I apologize if this someone has already responded to someone else with this same issue and resolved it, but I have been reading through the forums for over an hour and have not come across anyone posting a solution.

I have attempted to play on Party/Borgata and WSOP, and on both sites I continue to get a geo-location error notification. I am running the poker clients on my iMac on WiFi, and have removed ALL remote desktop software on my machine to ensure this wasn't an issue. I have 10 other password protected networks within range, as I am in an apartment complex. I verified that my IP address was in NJ (Union, NJ). My internet provider is Verizon Fios. I attempted to get help from the customer service from WSOP, but this did not work out well, as they were convinced in was a weak WiFi signal and instructed me to upload a screenshot of the list of WiFi signals and their connections, and to wait 24 to 48 hours for another customer service representative to contact me (aka I will likely never hear from them).

Has anyone encountered this issue, and figured out how to resolve it? I have heard other Mac users having issues, but not typically on WSOP.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as it seems the customer service representatives are determined to not be helpful.

Same here. Borgata poker and Party poker. Keep getting the message that I'm outside of NJ.

I am in Secaucus NJ but cannot be geolocated by any site. I have tried to uninstall and re-install with no luck. I have e-mailed and spoken to many reps but to no avail.Can anyone make a suggestion as to why I can not be located. I am on wifi and have the geocomply in my program files. Why is this SO difficult to get located? I have uploaded my ID etc but that makes no difference because I keep getting the " not in NJ message. Can anyone help me?

Sounds like an issue on their end, I've never had any issues before and tried getting on the 888 mobile site from 10 & 20miles away running errands and still get message having trouble verifying location. Hopefully they'll get it straightened out soon.