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Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities

12-24-2011 , 08:37 PM
If the current penalty is all this guy is facing, you can be sure it will happen again and again and again, and next time, it won't be so obvious. 99.999999999% sure he isn't the only player out there trying to cheat the games either. Still no response from any merge rep (kind of surprised but not really by this). This is a pretty big issue as it tells a lot about their ineffectiveness in making sure the games are played fairly.

I gave them the account names on a silver platter, and they came up with absolutely nothing.

Last edited by Gunth0807; 12-24-2011 at 08:53 PM.
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12-24-2011 , 09:04 PM
Why are people surprised that people care more about money than their name?
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12-24-2011 , 09:05 PM
Can't say I am shocked. High morals and high ethics are not words I would have ever used to describe AJB444
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12-24-2011 , 09:19 PM
As a regular in the Merge PLO8 tourneys, this is bull****. Thanks to OP/Hoss for pointing this pretty damning evidence out.
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12-24-2011 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cjkalt
Why are people surprised that people care more about money than their name?
Because money doesn't last forever and ever and ever. Obviously if we were referring to some degen there wouldn't be much surprise, but this guy has a gift and is choosing to piss it away. And i don't think there is much surprise in what he chose to do as much as it's a surprise that merge security was this clueless.

Last edited by Gunth0807; 12-24-2011 at 10:30 PM.
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12-24-2011 , 11:27 PM
As a player on RPM I am emailing support with my concerns and pming RPMSeth here to comment itt. I recommend the rest of you who play on Merge send an email to your site. Their security department needs to be able to spot things like this on their own without emails and hand down severe consequences. Accounts closed and funds seized.
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12-25-2011 , 02:52 AM
I find it most interesting that AJ hasn't confirmed or denied the allegations, simply stating it won't be a problem moving forward is pretty lol. So what's it gonna be?
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12-25-2011 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AJB4
Merge has required that these accounts no longer participate in any tournaments together. I will respect their wishes.

Their investigation did not show any colluding however they feel there is a conflict of interest and I respect that.

I apologize for any actions I have taken that have made the situation uncomfortable for those involved. I am to blame...nobody else. I could have done things better.

AJ
based on what i have read, my opinion is that you are a dirty sob cheat. Pretty much impossible to be otherwise if you're not prepared to answer the questions and accusations. And if you are so confident of lack of collusion then ask merge to release all relevant data to the zoo. e-mail them, cc 2+2.
at a minimum, your account should be banned and your time on merge over.
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12-25-2011 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BAEVentures
I find it most interesting that AJ hasn't confirmed or denied the allegations, simply stating it won't be a problem moving forward is pretty lol. So what's it gonna be?
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention to this what is happening here...
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12-25-2011 , 03:10 AM
Merry Christmas 2+2.
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12-25-2011 , 05:49 AM
Thanx for your work here Gunth
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12-25-2011 , 06:11 AM
Good work guys. Just to contribute some more to this, he was accused of MAing on FTP a while back. The three accounts being used were:

AJB4
PunkyBeau
TroyAikman8

Frequently in the same tournaments day after day, all never missing a chance to play the FTOPS series together.

AJB4 and Punky played a lot of the same SNGs together, with the EXACT same ROI.

AJB4 266$6 $11 43%$1,640 -N/AFullTilt SNG Only VS=punkybeau
PunkyBeau266$6 $11 43%$1,576 -N/AFullTilt SNG Only VS=ajb4[/QUOTE]

He claims the other two are his wife and step daughter.............
His story was that they played those SNGs together "for fun" and that FTP investigated him and told him to stop it.

I've also seen the Punkybeau account on Stars, Cake, and Cereus dozens of times. He claims it can't be him because it played NLHE sometimes which he "sucks at." I suspect he just used another account to dabble in hold em so his ROI wouldn't drop.

Here's the thread in which this was discussed:

http://forum.parttimepoker.com/shoot...erbytrade.html

The actual thread was originally about him taking a fund he started on his staking site meant to invest in their very best players, then breaking the buy-in rules to scoop up his own action that he was having trouble selling. He proceeded to dodge and dismiss all questions exactly in the same manner he is doing here. I've never seen anyone so terrible at dealing with accusations in my entire life. The MAing stuff is discussed on page 3 (if 60 posts per page).

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Originally Posted by trelskig
Lol at thinking its ajb4 because they're aggro, I swear he was the biggest nit ever. I would not be concernced with ajb4 or another of his understudies in the game... but this is clearly him
Also definitely this lol. Love having him to my left. Free BB every orbit.
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12-25-2011 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AJB4
I will post once on it and be done with it...I've seen these things get out of hand before.
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Originally Posted by AJB4
I am moving on now. I appreciate the questions/comments and although I have not handled everything as well as I possibly could have I will try to do a better job in the future.
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Originally Posted by AJB4
With all due respect I will no longer be following the thread.
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Originally Posted by AJB4
I apologize for any actions I have taken that have made the situation uncomfortable for those involved. I am to blame...nobody else. I could have done things better.
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Originally Posted by AJB4
As far as Stars goes, I unfortunately have no involvement with them any more. I wish I did as I loved their website. I am not technically savvy and have no expertise that any of you don't...believe me.
this guy keeps on saying he's done with this thread, keeps on dodging important questions, keeps on trying to defend himself, and more he speaks, guiltier he gets. this guy has future in politics.
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12-25-2011 , 07:36 AM
Keeps getting better and better. How is this guy not perma banned already?
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12-25-2011 , 08:53 AM
wow, having 3 of me at the same O/8 table

I wonder if I could do better seeing 12 hole cards?
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12-25-2011 , 02:40 PM
great summary czar chasm.

I'm glad you did it so I didn't have to.

Someone needs to link stars to this thread and insist they read it all. It's clear to anyone with a brain that he is the passthesalsa acct and quite frankly I think it's time Art saw some consequences for his cheating actions.

All that's ever happened to him in the past is a slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again" from the sites.
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12-25-2011 , 02:48 PM
if this is really a case of staked players , send Rainbow warrior all the emails/documentation/discussions you had setting up the deals with your horses to prove your story and the timestamps will help validate your story.
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12-25-2011 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dboy23
great summary czar chasm.

I'm glad you did it so I didn't have to.

Someone needs to link stars to this thread and insist they read it all. It's clear to anyone with a brain that he is the passthesalsa acct and quite frankly I think it's time Art saw some consequences for his cheating actions.

All that's ever happened to him in the past is a slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again" from the sites.
Really does show you money talks because if it were me, I would have been suspended on FTP & MERGE!
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12-25-2011 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by e1cnr
wow, having 3 of me at the same O/8 table

I wonder if I could do better seeing 12 hole cards?
Seriously man, I was telling some dude about this and he was like it's not a big deal. He's paying for them 3 seats. I'm like dude, fields are so small in o8 it matters a lot. If he was playing hold em, eh, whatever. It's wrong, but not as wrong as what he was doing. To show you how small the fields are; I've had 3 or 4 o8 tournys loaded up on the merge network with the same person at all 3 or 4 tables plenty of times. I can not believe he hasn't been suspended. This guy needs to get smacked down to reality. No doubt, he'll come up with another scheme. Guaranteed!
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12-25-2011 , 03:12 PM
Wow...good work guys. I have not looked into all this nearly as much as is possible so i am sure there could be even more out there.

I know this thread has been sent to the CEO of Merge by someone who knows him and used to run one of Merge's poker sites. Hopefully we can get a rep in here soon.

"I know the CEO of Merge as I use to run **** .. I have forwarded this to him.. If this had come to us.. It would take more than a day to look at all the hand history. From all of your evidence you gathered.. it is clear to me this is totally wrong, and their accounts would be banned with the money they won frozen permanently!!!...I'll let you know what I hear on the status of these players.."

Hiding site name because i don't want to possibly compromise somebody's identity without them knowing.

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12-25-2011 , 03:42 PM
Cheaters like this are repeat offenders. I wouldn't be surprised if he used his old FTP excuse on Merge when caught, "oh the other accouts are my Wife and Step-Daughter".

The old FTP info needs to be sent to Merge. Giving him a slap on wrist saying stop might have and still might end up getting his account banned if they knew his past offenses on other sites. Anyone know which specific skin each account belongs to? If so send stufff not only directly to Merge but also to each skin.

I don't know the detail of the FTP cheating. But this Wife and Step-Daughter things seems to clearly show he knows how to play several IPs/VPN from the same location.
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12-25-2011 , 03:47 PM
When poker becomes regulated this kind of scam should have legal consequences.
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12-25-2011 , 03:53 PM
This should be cross posted in pocketfives. I do not have an account or else I would do it.
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12-25-2011 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Men"the master"fan
When poker becomes regulated this kind of scam should have legal consequences.
and it will as long as the poker sites operate with-in the U.S.
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12-25-2011 , 04:17 PM
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This should be cross posted in pocketfives. I do not have an account or else I would do it.
Done
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