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Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities Is Merge Security capable of policing games? Overwhelming Evidence of MERGE O8 Irregularities

01-06-2012 , 04:54 PM
After reading all his responses for when people have called him out for all his shadyness, i'm convinced this guy was laughing all the way to the bank.
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01-06-2012 , 05:01 PM
Players should be all over the poker sites right now. It's because of their negligence he and possibly many others are just getting away with this crap, and for so long too.

This whole AJB situation is a mess that should of been handled months ago, completely. Instead its just like the Party Poker case, where the cheater was able to continue cheating for months before Party did anything about it(Players were on Party's case for months about the known cheater). Still no public response from Party Poker on that issue.

This is completely unacceptable. This cannot happen when thousands of players have money on the line thinking their playing a fair game. Players are paying for a service, and if they aren't getting that service they think they are paying for, the sites should have some explaining to do. Also ridiculous that it appears these so called gaming commissions just sit back and collect checks. They should be held accountable by their country of origin or something imo.

I would especially stay away from anonymous table sites. These poker sites have shown they are not doing their job, and all these anonymous tables do is make it so the players can't catch these cheaters either.

Last edited by Gunth0807; 01-06-2012 at 05:28 PM.
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01-07-2012 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
His pathetic excuse for that was that TroyAikman was his "daughters" account and his "wife" took it over because she was running bad and didn't know it was against the rules. As if that isn't ridiculous enough, he claimed that she did this for months on end under the same roof as her poker mentor... get this... without him ever seeing her using the account once lol. It was only after many months he "caught her" and told her bad wifey, no multiaccounting!

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Originally Posted by AJB4
Brief bio - I'm 42 years old with 5 children and happily married. I play poker professionally and have for the past 4 years. I am a part owner in a new internet staking website (PokerByTrade.com) and am often in the chat room there. Please feel free to come by and say hello.
That is from AJB's well -
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/44...l-ajb4-463470/



5 children yet both parents can play MTTs 12hrs a day 5+ days a week, very impressive sir, teach me? and is this daughter old enough to play online poker or do you just make accounts when each baby is born?
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01-07-2012 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HossDaBoss
That is from AJB's well -
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/44...l-ajb4-463470/



5 children yet both parents can play MTTs 12hrs a day 5+ days a week, very impressive sir, teach me? and is this daughter old enough to play online poker or do you just make accounts when each baby is born?

Now I wonder if that win was because of cheating. It is so sick they should ban him from all forms of poker. Live and online. I wonder how much money he made through cheating? I wonder if I ever got screwed by a cheater from online. I wonder how much money the whole poker community has lost from people cheating? I hope that one day there are actual penalties for cheating. Being banned from a site is not enough of a penalty.
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01-07-2012 , 10:28 AM
I'm guessing he forces each kid to make an account once they reach 18. Just a guess. Fiances are probably required as well.
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01-07-2012 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
... I wonder how much money he made through cheating?
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Originally Posted by AJB4
Without getting into too many specifics I consistently make (and report) 6 figures to the IRS.
If he can be believed
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01-07-2012 , 10:10 PM
I am not going to play on Merge until they publicly discuss:

1) What they found
2) Who they punished
3) What the punishment is
4) How the funds will be disbursed

I only rake a few hundred a month but the silence here from Merge is not acceptable. I understand that they may have a "we do not discuss security issues" policy but the investigation is in this thread. The only things that can really be added is the punishment, which I think 2+2 deserves to know since the forum broke this after Merge blew their chance.
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01-07-2012 , 11:05 PM
so he now can blame the wife for multi-accounting.
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01-07-2012 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
Come on Merge reps, where are you? Have you perma banned AJB4 and his other accounts? When will the money they took be returned to the other players in their tournaments?
merge doesn't give a f*&% about our complaints. they had significant botting and/or collusion going in their HU games and they didn't give a s&*%then either.

they clearly just want to make their money, milk this cash cow, and when the doj comes down on them or when legislation comes down and their jig is up, they will bow out quietly no problem, and be thrilled they were able to collect the rake they did. they aren't going to invest any time or money into solving their cheating problems, or into customer service for that matter.

the only way to make them act is to sit out their site, but no one is really going to do that individually because they have the most games available to US players and so it would take a mass sit out to make it happen.
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01-08-2012 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
I am not going to play on Merge until they publicly discuss:

1) What they found
2) Who they punished
3) What the punishment is
4) How the funds will be disbursed

I only rake a few hundred a month but the silence here from Merge is not acceptable. I understand that they may have a "we do not discuss security issues" policy but the investigation is in this thread. The only things that can really be added is the punishment, which I think 2+2 deserves to know since the forum broke this after Merge blew their chance.
+1
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01-08-2012 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by checkorbet50
merge doesn't give a f*&% about our complaints. they had significant botting and/or collusion going in their HU games and they didn't give a s&*%then either.

they clearly just want to make their money, milk this cash cow, and when the doj comes down on them or when legislation comes down and their jig is up, they will bow out quietly no problem, and be thrilled they were able to collect the rake they did. they aren't going to invest any time or money into solving their cheating problems, or into customer service for that matter.

the only way to make them act is to sit out their site, but no one is really going to do that individually because they have the most games available to US players and so it would take a mass sit out to make it happen.
If you check the chat this is getting talked about and the O8 action is slowly dying. Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe people are leaving because of this, or maybe AJB4 et al was half of the people that played O8 there. Regardless, if Merge wants any repsect they need to fix this. Luckily there will be other choices soon.
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01-08-2012 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
If you check the chat this is getting talked about and the O8 action is slowly dying. Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe people are leaving because of this, or maybe AJB4 et al was half of the people that played O8 there. Regardless, if Merge wants any repsect they need to fix this. Luckily there will be other choices soon.
What do you mean other choices soon?
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01-08-2012 , 01:09 AM
FTP should be opening back up soon, and lately signs have been pointing towards u.s. sites opening in the future.
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01-08-2012 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
What do you mean other choices soon?
I live in Nevada so online poker is only a few months away. After that, other states are certain to join in too.
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01-08-2012 , 07:38 PM
Is there any way to determine which skins any of his SNs were on? At least then we could try to include their appropriate 2+2 rep which seems like it's been the best way to get any kind of feedback from merge. Maybe a LockRizen or RPMSeth could get us some answers. We'll never get anything directly here from merge security here.

The other thing I want to know is what makes anybody think he won't be right back on under another skin(if he isn't already). This thread kinda went in a "he's a scumbag" direction rather than a "merge needs better security" direction.
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01-08-2012 , 08:33 PM
It was clear to me before i made this thread that Merge had some major problems with the security they have in place or lack of security. I intended the focal point of this thread to be aimed at merge security, not a witch hunt for ajb4. We can hunt cheaters all we want but it is still up to the sites to do something about it.

Any standard security measures should of had ajb4 caught months ago. The fact this didn't happen tells me Merge does not have these security measures in place like they should. And if merge isn't reaching the bar you can be sure their not exceeding it.

I think all online players need to ask themselves...Are we really going to continue to pay sites for not doing their job? Are we going to accept that it's normal for the sites not to find cheaters because eventually the players will find them?

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01-08-2012 , 10:52 PM
WAS looking how to deposit on merge

Leaving merge now, for good
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01-08-2012 , 10:54 PM
I think the main thing we can do right now is make sure this story doesnt go away by making sure it stays on the first page or two of this forum. We also need to check any new O8 regulars who pop up on merge to make sure that AJB4 doesnt pop up under some new account.
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01-09-2012 , 04:08 PM
I don't play PLO but I did read this thread and play a fair amount on Merge. I am very disturbed by the lack of response from them. Not even the obligatory pre-canned response we are used to from poker site's support.
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01-09-2012 , 10:47 PM
Has anyone gotten replies from Merge reps about this? It's absurd to me that they haven't posted here.
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01-09-2012 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Has anyone gotten replies from Merge reps about this? It's absurd to me that they haven't posted here.
nope nothing so far! Unfortunately the best case scenario is that they banned AJB444's accounts and pocketed the money. If those clowns were not able to detect the blatant cheating (collusion and chip dumping) I sure as hell don't see them returning the $$$ to those affected. No way they could even begin to figure out what goes to whom. Their strategy is basically not say anything on the issue and hope that with time we'll just forget about it.
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01-09-2012 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by omaha8shaun
I think the main thing we can do right now is make sure this story doesnt go away by making sure it stays on the first page or two of this forum. We also need to check any new O8 regulars who pop up on merge to make sure that AJB4 doesnt pop up under some new account.
+1 would not surprise me the least if that POS is back at it again, if only all the wiser now...
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01-10-2012 , 02:05 AM
We really do need to start seeing posts of people getting funds appropriated back to them.
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01-10-2012 , 04:38 AM
These are from Jan. 6th and yes RPMSeth knows about this thread. Not that it helps much anyway...

Hello xxxxx,

I have not yet had a response from the Merge security team regarding this investigation.

They have assured me that they will also be e-mailing you once this investigation is complete. I will also send you an e-mail when I hear anything at all.

Best,

--RPM Seth


...and an hour later this one:

Hello xxxxx,

I am told that the accounts in question have been removed from play while a complete investigation is undertaken. If Merge finds them in any way to have attempted to circumvent the one account per person rule in a tournament, they will be permanently banned from the network. However, they will not comment further at this time as the investigation is ongoing.

If Merge finds evidence of hands that adversely affected players, the players will be compensated and contacted in due course.

Thank you for your patience,

--RPM Seth

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