^^ My bet is that the checks probably won't bounce...my main concern has been the increasing amount of players on the report vs the amount of them being paid. Was hoping the list would be about half of what it was when this started by now, but obviously, that was a pretty naive hope it would seem.

I guess we won't know for sure until people begin posting whether or not their checks clear or bounce.

Lock has had issues with WU's for months now. Apparently the "volumes" they were pushing through at their peak caused some red flags to be raised or something to that affect, so they had to convert them to checks. There was a big thing about this months ago - this isn't something new.

What does your gut tell you about this situation? And has their rep Shane been cooperative or is he pulling away from the process and ducking inquiries?

He's been cooperative - but he's also not been shy about skewing the numbers and I have little doubt that this will be the way it's made to be seen from their aspect. This was a response he made to me after I sent him the last wave of players when I asked him basically how long this was going to take.

"The list is down to 117 on our end as of the start of this week so thats with your latest group added but with more to be cleared out this week as more are sent. Progress is being made."

I've sent him 170 players since November 1st. 25 from the report have been actually paid, but two of those 25 were not among the players I sent him (one had declined Shane's offer, one had yet to respond to my PM with Shane's offer). The 117 figure he quotes is based on how they view it - when they send off the payouts to the processors, they consider that done on their end. I don't consider a player paid until they have a check, WU, or ROW payout in hand.

I'm not going to sit here and say Shane's done nothing - he's helped 25 players get paid and that's better than them not being paid. But you have to remember - Lock didn't come to me about getting the players on this report paid. I had to pester him repeatedly for months before he finally responded with his offer. My gut tells me that this is all a ploy to get low-information net depositors back to the site as Lock signals to the heavens that things are improving - all the while, my list continues to increase, even while a few players are paid.

If they took it from the approach of paying out those who have been waiting the longest first, and then systematically blew through half of this report and got these people paid, I'd have a different view. But that isn't happening - so my instincts remain. Shane's done very little to change my overall view of this situation.

But let me say this as well - don't let me make it seem I'm not happy that at least some of these folks are getting what was owed to them. What infuriates me though is that some are being paid at random, while others - some of whom have waited over 10 months - continue to wait.

Wrong.

Because if that were true then Lock could easily send out bogus checks to everyone.

A player is not paid until a check clears and funds are available for withdrawal.

True but lock has no control over that last piece.

Let me clarify - I don't remove a player from the report until they have the check, WU, or ROW payment in hand from Lock. After that occurs - if a payment is suspended or doesn't complete, a player can come to me and explain this. I will add them back on the report, from the date of original request, and they remain there until they get another payment from Lock. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Either way, what Lock considers as "paid" is far more egregious, in my opinion.

There is also the theory that Lock had some money tied up in Skrill (they probably force sites to have a certain $ on hand) so when Skrill stopped them from accepting deposits, they were forced to send that money in payouts. Now they probably have no money left in the Skrill accounts either.

They do if they send out checks with the premise of them bouncing, and that is not too far-fetched for lock to attempt with their track record.

Thanks for the response and I would have to agree with your analysis. As long as there are people who are unwilling to spend less than 10 seconds to type in "Lock Poker cash outs" into Google, there will always be potential victims. But your efforts (and others) have made it difficult for Lock to continue to hide under a rock and perpetuate their scam.

It certainly is. I haven't played on lock in over two years and I've requested two checks for small amounts about two years ago in which both came to me in a timely manner and neither of them cleared my bank account. I moved on.

It may be a bias point of view (unlikely) with my small sample size of two but for me, receiving a check and clearing a check is both a big leap and an important one for me. Which is why I made that stern reply. Either way keep of the good work!

I'm a little behind on my Lock news. I've had about 2k sitting in there I've been meaning to cash out for months. As things stand now, should I go ahead and request a cashout or wait for things to clear up some more? (Will things ever clear up and begin running smoothly?)

Yes you need to cash out now. Make sure you transfer your account to 2.0 first.

Yeah go ahead and cash it out (check seems to be the best choice for US right now) but be prepared to wait months for it.

why do you have to transfer accounts to 2.0 first?

PROGRAM NOTE:

Though I am still keeping tabs on updating the Lock Cashout Report via user-submitted PM's through the next couple of days, I will not be updating the thread again with a new report until Friday night. Going to take a short break and re-charge a bit with the holidays coming and such.

Appreciate the patience, and stay tuned.

Yeah what do you mean by this?

Lock changed their software and login methods. I believe you need to upgrade and use your tablename to login to get to the cashier to withdraw. Not sure. You can try the old software and see

Had 36k on there, after waiting for my most recent payout of $10k since 3/28, then having it randomly canceled a week ago, I gave up hope and sold it all off.

Shane used to be very friendly with me joking around on Skype. After I asked him what happened to my cash out, he asks what support tell you? I told him what support told me, then he says "What? No way that happened, c/p me the chat." Next day I c/p the chat, and he has refused to respond one word after that. Here is the chat. (Support closed the chat on me btw)


Please wait while we connect you to a support representative.
info
You are now chatting with 'Paige'
Paige
Hello and welcome to our Live Chat service. How can I help you?
you
Hello
you
I have a serious problem with my payout
you
after waiting 8 months and getting my $10k cashout approved 3 months ago, it has been declined
Paige
Please provide us with your email address so we can bring up your account.
you
*****@yahoo.com
Paige
Just one moment please.
Paige
Did you receive an email from Emily?
you
No
Paige
It looks like we attempted to process this but it was rejected. Let me see if I can get a hold of Emily, my Manager.
you
thank you very much
Paige
Ok... Yes, it seems we tried to process your payout but due to a syncing issue we were not able too. Can I direct you on what to do so we can process all future payouts without issue?
you
yes
you
but what about this payment
Paige
We could not process it
you
I've waited 8 months and I deserve to have this payout processed now
Paige
But I see you have another payout
Paige
So we will expedite this one
Paige
Are you logged into the Poker Client?
you
yes*
Paige
click DEPOSIT to access the Cashier
Paige
Then click the Withdraw button
Paige
Input any amount here and submit
Paige
You will then be asked to input your password
Paige
Please let me know once done
you
yes I've done this
you
now it tells me i have one pending cashout
you
I click ok and it shows me my recent cash out
Paige
Ok.. yes
Paige
Now it is sync'd and we can process your payout without issue
Paige
So I have asked our Emily to expedited your payout
you
I do not understand what "synced" means
you
what precisely was the problem with my payout?
Paige
All eWallet payouts are done via the Casino Cashier
Paige
And if you have not logged into the Casino Cashier recently... It will not be sync'd with your Poker account
Paige
So when we attempted to process your 10K payout yesterday, it was rejected b/c you had not access your Casino Cashier for a long time
Paige
We will expedite the one that is currently pending
you
that's not true
you
I've accessed it 2-3 times a week to check my withdraw status
you
I've been told that my cashout will be expedited and added to priority lists so many times before
you
May I please talk to a manager?
Paige
You can email emily@lockpoker.eu




CLIFFS

--Lock tells me they canceled my cash out because I haven't checked my cashier in a while, even though I literally have checked it everyday for the past 8months.

They're talking about viewing it from the casino, not poker. Not that it should matter.

Lock lies and bones its customers to avoid having to pay out?

I for one am SHOCKED.

Sorry dude, I know that sucks. Just more proof for those people who have been drinking the Kool-Aid or smoking joints the size of sausages that Lock is still a shady, scummy, unethical site that NO ONE should be playing on. They need to go out of business.

Has anyone received payout via check or WU this week? Have not been seeing many confirmed payouts this week on here as compared to last week.

Fuuuuuuuuu lock poker.... Sick of bs stories of screw jobs...ok, just had to vent

This is the total list of reported payouts on 2+2 for November. The first three in the red box there - those were reported before players from the cashout report started receiving payouts. The rest are all from the report.

And the method listed is whatever the original request was. So if you requested a WU and received a check, I still counted it as a WU.