^^
2+2 have already verified the account - just look at the custom tagline.

iPoker as a rule do not post on forums, strictly speaking you are not their customer, your skin is their customer and because of that relationship iPoker does not interact with their customers customer. They took a decision on this occasion to respond as they felt the gravity of the accusations merited a statement.

On the basis of the above I would think that you should not be expecting a PM about your concerns. You should direct these to your skin and on your behalf your skin will take it with iPoker if they deem it necessary.

Another reply to us as if we were naive children who only started playing poker a week ago.

I told Ipoker over 3 months ago that Hunni & Finny obviously knew each other, I was told I was wrong. I showed them proof, logging on and off together, avoiding each other for 100,000 sngs, I was told I was wrong. I told them that boo can play 5 days without a break and showed them proof, I was told I was wrong and not to trust Top Shark or Sharkscope. I told them that all 3 of them can play 16 tables each for 12+ hour stretches without a break with only minutes between each game finishing, I was told I was wrong. I told them they take exactly 3 seconds per turn, I was told I was wrong. I told them they never ever clicked auto fold, I was told I was wrong.

Now we are told that finny and hunni live together! I told you this 3 months ago and I don't have these so called sophisticated investigation tools.

We are now told that Boo account shares. This doesn't explain no breaks in 5 day stretches and other times of 2-3 day stretches continuous playing. When I tried to explain no breaks, I didn't mean logging off, I meant no breaks at all in the sessions. SNGs finishing with no more than 10 minutes between them and always playing at least some tables.

They didn't chat, they didn't time out, they didn't click auto pre fold, they did take 3 seconds per turn. They don't now or they didn't last time I looked which is now apparent because they knew they were being scrutinised.

Instead of replying to disgruntled customers with stock copy and paste answers, get yourself onto forums such as www.pokerai.org or http://www.maxinmontreal.com/forums and read the countless posts by botters playing on the Ipoker network before you lose your customers completely.

This is disgraceful tbh. Support prob deny everything as a general rule based on stuff like this

^cuddleb00


^jhunnius2


Luckyfinny

Wow, you guys are ******ed.

^a-c-t-i-n-g-t-h-e-g-o-a-t


^b-y-n-i-o-l-u-s


^ f-a-m-i-l-y-p-o-t-t-e-r


^ highest volume player on ipoker in the past...i guess he had something to hide

this doesnt mean they are ALL bots, but shows that you can definetly be a "losing" player yet quite a profitable one, draining tons of money from the poker community.
ipoker is one f*cked up network though

Great, isn't it?

One botter while knocking out 100,000 sngs, 14 hours a day, without stopping gets caught using both machines to log in from the same place and thinks up the original line of 'The other one was my wife'. O Rly?

Another who gets caught logging in with up to 5 day continuous sessions without leaving the computer comes up with the never before heard of 'My friend was playing while I wasn't there'.

F*cking comical. There you go Ipoker botters, there are your get out lines, not like any of you were ever going to say anything else.

another user with huge volume in the past yet have blocked sharkscopes
S-h-i-p-p-e-n-d-a-l-e-s


^ another nice consistent graph from q-u-e-e-n-m-o-a-q-u-e-e-n


^whoa, that guy sure lost alot!


nvm, b-r-a-t-p-a-r-t-y-p-a-n-a crushes

PS: considering the high volume of these players, they must all have 50%+ rakeback from there affiliates/vip program + all the rakerace money they earn from hitting top slots, while knocking down legitimate players to lower payouts. I guess most these accounts make between 70-90% rakeback cause of their mass volume = good rakeback/vip deal/topping rake races

example: bot rakes 15, 000$ in month playing sngs. he comes top 3 in the sng leaderboard (approx 2k), has 50% rakeback/vip deal (approx 7.5k), tops 3 cash race (10k approx) = 20k approximately, for 15k rake. considered one of the higher rakeback tier earning bots, this bot would recieve 133% rakeback. (these numbers are guestimates, but whenever I went for rakeraces and NOT topping the leaderboard, my rakeback was around 80% total)

ACTINGTHEGOAT is me.

what makes you think i would be a bot? and why here1am?

familypotter is prob not a bot, but maybe a family, as the volume is pretty ridic

I don't play on ipoker, and just found this thread and looked at high volume players that top the volumes of ipoker, and especially, appear as losing players. im just trying to help illustriate how bots can drain money from the poker community, even if appearing to be losing players. I don't think you are a bot, but I imagine a few of those are. 3 of which have been confirmed NOT bots by ipoker seem VERY SUSPICIOUS ie: my wife plays

Posting graphs of high volume high stake regs that you think might be bots is ridiculous, What is the point of that? You imagine a few of those players are bots, what else do you imagine in this magical fantasy land? Do you have any evidence? You don't even play on the site, why do you care?

i dont think these are high stakes regs. mainly mediumish to small stakes players. no bots should be advanced enough to beat the high stakes game even after huge rakeback. (or atleast I hope not).
I listed 10 names, 8 graphs, didnt specify any as bots. However, you need to realize that the most obvious areas to look for bots would be the highest volume players. the volume is where they get there money from, as apparent from the graphs, these players AFTER rakeback have 5% rois, etc, yet put in massive volume for sick rake race bonuses, etc. it would only make sense for ipoker to do security checks on all the high volume players, unless they did not care about the integrity of their network.

personally, I think atleast 3 out of the 10 players are conducting malicious activity on ipoker, whether that be colluding, team accounting, or bots. and based off how ipoker responded, they pretty much strengthened the arguement that those accounts are cheating in some way.

what surprises me is how they just contact the one guy and tell him to stop having his "brother" play with him. these "siblings" have been team-accounting to gain higher slots on ipoker races, yet there was no punishment from them besides simply telling them to stop? after 30,000 games, where cuddleb00 did profit from other legitimate players, he was given a warning.

i guess its okay to team-account, thanks for that clarification. i have one question though. would I be able to set up multiple bots under different ips, and then use them all to collude and win races playing 24/7? don't worry, I'll get some buddies in on it, so you can think of it as a team account. then when you catch me in 1 year, i expect the same justice that cuddleb00 got. I want to receive a warning, thank you.

LOL Are you serious??? you've just helped ipoker to lose a lot of customers and atracted a lot of cheaters by this ridiculous post. In case you don't know it yet, most of us know a little bit about poker here and i advice you to read some books about poker too. Just a couple of chapters would do the trick. Then you might come to a point, where you will actually spot obvious bots.

Ps. Please gimme some of that drugs you're on, they must be aaaaaaaaaawesome.

lol players in graphs are NOT THE BOTS!!!!!!! i know these players, sng pros, multitablers, they just dont give a **** that they are losing, look at the rakeback, its all about to play as many as u can not try to do some +ROI! use ur brains kids if u cant do that it doesnt mean that everyone who can is a bot ipoker have the sickest rakebac and promos for sng. playing there everyday, soon ur calling me a BOT too

try reading the thread, donk. 156 hours of playing with only 1 hour break isn't possible for a human.

i know these players in the graph!!!! wtf u dont understand? THEY ARE NOT BOTS! are u **** stupid? bots that make u 100K in a year?? 156h? dont know where did u get this but if it shows 156h then its time when player is onlain not time when hes grinding, i am onlain 24/7

What are you talking about ??

Cuddleb00 PLAYED POKER TOURNAMENTS for 137 hours without a break. It wasn't just a case of being online. This isn't possible for a human being.

Try reading the thread instead of sitting typing rubbish. Somebody posted a graph showing the 137 hours of consecutive play.

We'll be waiting for your apology........

wtf, what kind of rakeback deals do these players have?

what skin?

Hi cuddleb00, you better let the bot play, he's better than you. Btw, i've posted your timeschedule, including a 156 hour session with a 1 hour break. Not just beeing online but playing 156 hours in a row. Just read the thread and you'll see.

Ps. your brother's a donk too

apology for what? go play some pokers not cry about bots u cant overplay.
cuddleb played with his brother, they are stupid donks, if u want to rake hard, do some multitabling, not sick hours. in nights at ipker there ar no players u can play 4-6 max tables, so no reason for playin 24/7 like they did
all i was saying was that grinders in the garph are not the bots.

to blowkonjin, i dont have a brother :P

Hey Silent_0ne,

I guess you are a little bored to accuse us players beeing bots. I am shippendales on ipoker and as nationstation mentioned before, we are just a bunch of sick grinders, no bots.

I also have talked with Brat, Moa and Byniolus, while grinding at the tables so pretty sure none of them is a bot too

Regards
Shippendales

I don't think he accused YOU of being a bot. What he meant was, that you EMPLOY a bot.

Just because you are using a bot doesn't mean you can't type in the chat box in order to cover up your tracks. Same thing with the other users you mentioned.

I haven't seen the chat logs and wouldn't spend the time to look over them, but I'll bet there are long periods where you and your bot-using friends don't chat. Eight hours, approximately? Even bot-users have to sleep.

Just a guess of course....

Hi Ipoker Employee !

Well Hoopie1 ??

What was the response ?? This has been over a month since you took this up with the person you know at William Hill, you said at the time that you'd have a response for us within a few weeks.

This issue seems to have been forgotten about a bit, we can't let that happen, we need to keep pushing to have this sorted.

Ipoker replied in the thread, cuddleb00 account shared while hunni and lucky were married you cynic. A handful of players who didn't like the patronising e-mail replies they got back probably left, the rest stayed either because of some VIP level or the juicy games.

It's been about a month since I played on there but the main culprits had stopped taking 3 seconds and lowered the amount of tables they were playing so I assumed they had turned the bots off, is this still the case?