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11-24-2013 , 10:56 PM

#26

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

The argument of "well that guy's avatar is worse" is never going to get you anywhere. They don't want to use it, so use something else. Your country's constitution doesn't apply here, and almost certainly doesn't apply to what a company chooses to allow or not allow you to use for an avatar.

nothing aplies so. no . human rights on int. law, nothing. okey , its nice to know
kinda funny that
just they do what they want, arbitrary
u are wrong in wht u said.

forget the laws, its stupid and unfair dont let me put this image and no justification wahtsoever

11-24-2013 , 10:56 PM

#27

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

Quote:

Originally Posted by idun215

well if it bothers you so much go play somewhere else.

yes. but all othr sites are pure garbage

11-24-2013 , 11:00 PM

#28

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllBlackDan

Lol you caring so much OP if youre not a trool

why dont care? im not a trool.

11-24-2013 , 11:01 PM

#29

VP$IP

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

yes. but all othr sites are pure garbage

72o is pure garbage

11-24-2013 , 11:02 PM

#30

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeseisgood

probably because religion is the most controversial issue in the world and pokerstars doesnt want to be bombarded with christians and muslims complaining about ppl making fun of their religion.

freedom of religion doesnt allow you to put icons of your religion on other ppls property without their consent either. freedom of religion only applies when you arent infringing on other ppls rights or else catholics would still be burning witches and torturing scientists.

saw lots of things related w\ religion in site, avatars and nicknames, and lots of stuff that are cntroversial and what?

11-24-2013 , 11:03 PM

#31

EvilSteve

Midlife Crisis

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13,195

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

forget the laws, its stupid

agree

Quote:

and unfair

disagree

Their site, their rules. Either give Jesus a better hand or switch to Muhammad imo.

11-24-2013 , 11:05 PM

#32

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

this is very cool image, very classy

i will find some "non controversial images" and show.

11-24-2013 , 11:06 PM

#33

LostOstrich

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,933

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilSteve

Either give Jesus a better hand or switch to Muhammad imo.

disagree

if you're determined to go with a blasphemous image, I'd avoid the religions that issue fatwas imo

11-24-2013 , 11:07 PM

#34

EvilSteve

Midlife Crisis

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13,195

Obviously you give Muhammad AA so as not to offend.

11-24-2013 , 11:17 PM

#35

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

why a babe on a gambling site?

kill what?

11-24-2013 , 11:20 PM

#36

hypergeometry

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 742

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

hmmm, so why they're not allowing you. Now I'm lost

This is almost identical to your pic.

11-24-2013 , 11:23 PM

#37

Eponymous

Photoshop Comic Genius

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,578

Have you tried an avatar with Jesus taking a dump?

11-24-2013 , 11:36 PM

#38

AllBlackDan

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6,400

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

It seems like Stars only accepts electrical Jesus avatar pics

11-24-2013 , 11:38 PM

#39

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

nice cheat at poker, very classy

politics

11-24-2013 , 11:40 PM

#40

VP$IP

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

But what cards is he holding?

11-24-2013 , 11:49 PM

#41

Eponymous

Photoshop Comic Genius

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,578

you're welcome

11-24-2013 , 11:58 PM

#42

EvilSteve

Midlife Crisis

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13,195

/thread

11-25-2013 , 12:10 AM

#43

mecantplay

temp-banned

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,524

There is nothing wrong with that picture that you posted at the 1 page. For me two of the above Jesus are vary similar and btw the other religious picture that are posted in that thread too. So Stars has to allowed to you to use that funny picture.

Btw my Stars picture is like my 2p2 picture (I love house music). Just an example - if Stars/Stars support dost love/prefer metal, would it allowed to me to have picture like mine with notice "I love metal"?

So for me this picture is brilliant and it is funny so Stars has to allowed to you to used it.

All is 6 with that picture (you know like 6/6) but you just didnt wrote with Stars support with humor.

11-25-2013 , 01:23 AM

#44

SantaCruz

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,161

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

right... just cannot put a thing related with religion, cannot express about that , but can put guys taking dumps, the pope picture, pictures without autorization , have nicks like the

lets find some that are ofensive, we can start here on 2p2

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...6/index77.html

Avatars that might be in bad taste can't be compared to avatars that might offend players regarding religion, race or sexual orientation. PokerStars is in the business of providing a place for people to play poker; the last thing that they are going to allow are things that might be interpreted as promoting any kind of bigotry. They can't allow that not only for the sake of the players but also for the sake of future licensing. They have to make judgement calls all of the time. Your's was simply a judgement call. It's no big deal. If they allow other pictures of JC on the site but not yours, you need to ask yourself what is different about your picture.

As far as baby avatars go, I see no difference between those and someone pulling a baby picture out of his pocket at a live game and showing it to the other players. A baby avatar doesn't mean that a baby is playing poker nor does it mean that pedophiles are going to be hunting down that baby. For you to be offended by baby avatars hints to me that you hold poker players in pretty low regard. It's bad enough that some of the general public sees poker as an intrinsically evil game but it's especially bad when some poker players see poker in that light.

11-25-2013 , 01:58 AM

#45

FT37

adept

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 854

Just get over it and use a different pic? Jesus......

11-25-2013 , 03:01 AM

#46

mme

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,668

this thread is completely superfluous. here is a link to the page where they explain their policy on avatar images and it reads.. .. .. ..ah nevermind ..there is none.

11-25-2013 , 04:15 AM

#47

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00001

nothing aplies so. no . human rights on int. law, nothing. okey , its nice to know
kinda funny that
just they do what they want, arbitrary
u are wrong in wht u said.

No, I'm not. Freedom of Speech doesn't apply in this situation, at least not in North America. Just like on this forum - the forum owners can censor whatever they like. And human rights? LOL, no.

At this point, you can either let it go or email Stars those avatar pics you posted. They'll either see your point and have some of those removed as well, let you have yours back, or maintain their stance. It might be a matter of someone having complained about yours, and not any of those people's.

But I will admit, if they let all of those remain after you email them, and insist yours stays deleted, that would seem to be inconsistent.

11-25-2013 , 04:31 AM

#48

Dutch96

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 310

Just ask Eponymous nicely to photoshop " Buddychrist " holding 72, problem solved!

Seen Buddychrist several times on Stars

11-25-2013 , 05:35 AM

#49

humanoid

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 413

Stars pandering to the politically correct stance, this is so ludicrous . Anything with a hint of Christianity is deemed offensive.Sad times we live in. Stars what joke.

11-25-2013 , 06:17 AM

#50

Mexican_Natis

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 987

Quote:

Originally Posted by mme

this thread is completely superfluous. here is a link to the page where they explain their policy on avatar images and it reads.. .. .. ..ah nevermind ..there is none.

Looks like the policy is explained in the ToS, however, don't focus on the wording as that may be an error...

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerStars Hayzews

I didn't think this was a secret. The auto jesus scripts are within our current ToS. We can of course change our ToS, but we have not seriously considered doing so to address this issue because of the enforcement problem.

I am not going to discuss enforcement methods here. There are good reasons for any company to keep details of security enforcement methods confidential.

I can ask someone from our game integrity team to discuss the scripture as they relate to our current ToS. As you might have noticed during our meetings, they handle enforcement of such things.

However, I think that focusing on the wording of the ToS is an error. You can argue the interpretation of the wording of the policy, but we keep clear lists of allowed and not allowed Jesuses on our website based on our interpretation of the pictures, so there's really no room for doubt. If there's a type of Jesus that we want to disallow (and can effectively prohibit) that we think falls within the limits of our current ToS, we can just change the ToS. The reverse is true as well. Arguments about what 'decision making' really means in the context of the ToS, for example, aren't going to change which pictures are prohibited and which are.

I've been trying to find the list of all the permitted/prohibited jesuses, but not having any luck.

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