I'm not sure what aspects they kept and which ones they ditched. But I am completely unable to commit to 25 days each month and it annoys me that some of the rakeback value is tied into that. I tried doing ironman for a couple of months back in 2006 or so (before SNE on Stars I think) and it was just a pain to have to grind out that 1 hour or whatever every single day if I had other stuff going on. Would even try to time it right where I would start at 11pm and play into the next day to knock out two days in one session but it just grew annoying.

I was more annoyed that my additional play AFTER meeting the ironman requirement for the day was effectively earning less rakeback than my previous play.

That's why I mostly ditched FT back then after giving ironman a try and it remains one of the big reasons why I wouldn't consider going back to it now either. But it may be more a thing of principle than actual numbers as I honestly don't even remember how much ironman can be worth nor how much you sacrifice if you were to do 15+ higher volume days per month instead of 25 lower volume days.

My confusion over the value of the various medals and everything else is also why I have been reluctant to go back. If it was clearer to me then I might actually consider checking out the supposedly less-nitty games there. Not likely I would go there still...but they would at least actually have a small chance of winning me over and getting me to play there.

PM me for a Excel sheet that compares pokerstars and fulltilt for cash games players.. It will give you your total cashback for both sites as well as monthly income and so on..

I would be interested in that. Why don't you post here?