have you not followed the party bot thread? they were winning at 10bb @ 5/10

the ipoker bots 3 years ago we're winning at 2/4+ @ super high winrates.

all the bots on the hive @ 50-100nl are winning at more than 10bb

Cant imagine how much the HU bots are making.

They seem to make the most of it from aggro regs at 6max. With so much information on them its quite easy for them to get massively good reads on breakevenish regs.

The programmers of the HU LHE bot are posting in that thread. Why not ask them if it's easier to create a winning ring NLHE bot, and if one has been programmed as such yet?

No you won't, because you can't edit your post after 30 minutes. If you're that concerned about posting innocent players' names, don't post them. Private conversations are best held...privately.

No, I think it implies that they aren't anywhere near solving the game. A bot could be a big winner without solving the game.

Just a general comment, not aimed at this specific case.

Fair comment.

I suppose I could be, too.

The bots make a lot of mistakes but those mistakes are not very important as they are simply 1-2-3 bb mistakes unlike an emotional human player making 100bb+ mistakes

And they also make up for those mistakes by having massive reads on everyone.

Do those experts agree with your emotional human player reads on your alleged bots?

Bunch of people with the exact stats, that have 0 emotional play over 10's of thousands of hands, and do irrational things like avoid switches tables to play fishes instead of regs while playing half 50nl and half 100nl are not alleged bots.

they are bots. Theres no other possibility.

The db reads are very real, i have tested by incorporating a lot of different playbacks with different sizing and all the similar bots have fought back at the same time(even those i had not played in a few days would start doing the same adjustment without seeing me change my play vs them) and the same way.

The most obvious one was when i lowered my open size BVB vs them and they all switched to 2.2x 3bets at the same time(super high % when their regular % is very very low vs other people). I added a lot of 4bets and they added a lot of flats even vs 20bb+ 4bets(3bet to 5-6bb).

I would see a bot that had been offline for a few days or more and my first open he would do the same thing as them when they used to all have low 3bet%, 3x sizing and massively high fold to 4bets.

Funny enough is 100% of the guys 3betting me 2.2x bvb have the same postflop stats.


I have a lot more of these.

im still baffled that monarch is allowed to play when i sent them the screenshot with him having the same exact stats over 20k hand as bumcasmani which was the original bot(that has now left and been replaced by monarch)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post46414137

i have been comparing stats from those bots through tableratings.com with the suspected bots from the hive/planetwin

They have the same stat pre/post. Some stat differ a bit because of hu play preflop (sb/bb) but the mp/co/btn are the EXACT same.
the CR per street is very weird(completely different from the rest of the player pool) and the exact same. the bet per street the cbet per street the fold to cbet per street

Unfortunately i dont have more stats from PTR but thats enough for it to be 100% sure.

I definitely won't send anyone on the network anymore and i will not play there again untill all the russian bots are banned.

you are all free from getting a ptr sub and looking over at the stats i posted previously, you'll see for yourself.