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07-08-2010 , 11:05 AM
live poker is rigged imo, played it only once it was superturbo stt format, everyone starts with 30bb's and blinds goes up in 10 minutes 12 handed tables.
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07-08-2010 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
And I double checked my stats w a Marist mathemitition.
I'm not sure I believe you have properly checked anything but whatever.

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Or u can reread my post where I specifically state I'm not folding ak 20. Bb deep
Don't take this as an insult on your mad poker skillz (because I'm sure you're better than me despite your losses) but I just wanted to clarify how you went from a dominant position deep in the tournament to busting so quickly, given your knowledge of the big stack theory. Surely a 20BB confrontation with AK isn't the full story so what happened with the rest of your chips?

Perhaps you should post a file of your hand histories for the tournament for us to discuss in the context of your big stack theory...

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guys i just want to add that i totally owned my club game and played from 3pm to 1:30am in the morning and crushed it 2/5 nl game that plays like 5/10...
.. given that you seem keen to turn this already pointless thread into your blog anyway.
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07-08-2010 , 03:14 PM
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guys i just want to add that i totally owned my club game and played from 3pm to 1:30am in the morning and crushed it 2/5 nl game that plays like 5/10... when i tell u i had total control and got max value and minimum loss on coolers.. kks mucked on 775 flop not even losing a cbet... just str8 check mucked.. 1 guy had pocket 5s other a7.. I just never felt more in control... i just knew there was no way i was stacking off my 300 bb stack unless somehow got it all in pre with aces or kings... I made an amazing 80bb hero call when a guy shoves on a turn of k64q board with pocket 8s and he turns up ace rag and i hold... and this guy would check and slowplay his monsters and use pot control on his marginal hands... and his draws and air balls he would pot and double and triple barrell strong... owned.
Take it to BBV, this is getting really really pathetic.
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07-08-2010 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
Take it to BBV, this is getting really really pathetic.
smcb
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07-08-2010 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
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07-08-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
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07-08-2010 , 04:00 PM
yarbles your geting to the shills good work
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07-08-2010 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
yarbles your geting to the shills good work
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07-08-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
yarbles your geting to the shills good work
thanks man i cant say that its not a great deal of entertainment for me... i mean i always thought it was a myth... but the shills fell for every last one of my traps... got to stay 1 level above the competition.
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07-08-2010 , 05:58 PM
oh and i would love to post the hh for a total tournament and u tell me more chips doesnt win... haha stats dont lie man.. and i have extreme examples
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07-08-2010 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
thanks man i cant say that its not a great deal of entertainment for me... i mean i always thought it was a myth... but the shills fell for every last one of my traps... got to stay 1 level above the competition.
And the really sad thing is that, in your own mind, on the surface at least, the above is true.
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07-08-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
oh and i would love to post the hh for a total tournament and u tell me more chips doesnt win... haha stats dont lie man.. and i have extreme examples
Don't just post a wall of text here though, upload it somewhere and provide a link. It will be interesting to see you completely ignoring your own strategy. I don't know why I'm encouraging you but it is bound to be more interesting than a stream of meaningless opinions separated by elipses.

You might think stats don't lie but it doesn't mean you understand them. You say you asked a math guy to have a look for you so perhaps you could ask him to discuss his analysis here.
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07-08-2010 , 07:40 PM
k guys i guess this proves that more chips doesnt always win... guess we could base this 1 hand and say my 250k sample size means ****.


Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1250/t2500 Blinds + t250 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t94966 M = 16.52
UTG+1: t122679 M = 21.34
MP1: t99729 M = 17.34
MP2: t88037 M = 15.31
CO: t91658 M = 15.94
Hero (BTN): t212432 M = 36.94
SB: t18410 M = 3.20
BB: t135278 M = 23.53

Pre Flop: (t5750) Hero is BTN with 6 6
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t6109, 3 folds, Hero calls t6109, 1 fold, BB calls t3609

Flop: (t21577) K 7 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t12500, BB raises to t38800, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t206073 all in, BB calls t90119 all in

Turn: (t279415) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t279415) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t279415
Hero shows 6 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
BB shows J K (a flush, King high)
BB wins t279415
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07-08-2010 , 07:41 PM
that's poker stars not full tilt moron, you was losing on ft wasn't you ? FT is rigged.
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07-08-2010 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
k guys i guess this proves that more chips doesnt always win... guess we could base this 1 hand and say my 250k sample size means ****.


FULL TITS $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1250/t2500 Blinds + t250 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t94966 M = 16.52
UTG+1: t122679 M = 21.34
MP1: t99729 M = 17.34
MP2: t88037 M = 15.31
CO: t91658 M = 15.94
Hero (BTN): t212432 M = 36.94
SB: t18410 M = 3.20
BB: t135278 M = 23.53

Pre Flop: (t5750) Hero is BTN with 6 6
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t6109, 3 folds, Hero calls t6109, 1 fold, BB calls t3609

Flop: (t21577) K 7 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t12500, BB raises to t38800, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t206073 all in, BB calls t90119 all in

Turn: (t279415) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t279415) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t279415
Hero shows 6 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
BB shows J K (a flush, King high)
BB wins t279415
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Originally Posted by Username^^
that's poker stars not full tilt moron, you was losing on ft wasn't you ? FT is rigged.
no it says full tits... its clearly not poker stars
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07-08-2010 , 07:50 PM
my bad tits
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07-08-2010 , 08:04 PM
i just want to report i was 2/100 in 20 cubed and lose the massive pot above i was also top 10 in chips in 10r and top 30 in chips in 55 fo within 15 minutes i get coolered out of all 3 so i insta 12 hour excluded myself cause i know i have 0 chance of playing profitable after this.... so many sighs
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07-08-2010 , 08:08 PM
Just keep depositing and youll be fine.
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07-08-2010 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Just keep depositing and youll be fine.
smbbc
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07-08-2010 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Username^^
Just keep depositing and youll be fine.
Yes, this is exactly what Full Tilt wants you to do ... they like to spread the money around because they make Rake.

Its a computer program Guys and Gals - I play enough on line to see the patterns here. Its not really random as you think.

Of course there are Idiots that play live like last night a 72 yr old man called my "nit self" all in with A2 vs my A9s (i had 3 big blinds left) and rivered a 2 to knock me out in 27th..

7 hands before he called my button KQs all in with 910 off and rivered a 9.

Sometime you just "Run Bad" against very bad players I guess...
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07-08-2010 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
smbbc
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07-08-2010 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WallaceWins
Yes, this is exactly what Full Tilt wants you to do ... they like to spread the money around because they make Rake.

Its a computer program Guys and Gals - I play enough on line to see the patterns here. Its not really random as you think.

Of course there are Idiots that play live like last night a 72 yr old man called my "nit self" all in with A2 vs my A9s (i had 3 big blinds left) and rivered a 2 to knock me out in 27th..

7 hands before he called my button KQs all in with 910 off and rivered a 9.

Sometime you just "Run Bad" against very bad players I guess...
So does it mean that live poker is rigged or i don't get your point at all...
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07-08-2010 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
oh and i would love to post the hh for a total tournament and u tell me more chips doesnt win... haha stats dont lie man.. and i have extreme examples
So do like Bingo_Boy said, and upload them. Find/replace your name out if you want.

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Originally Posted by Yarbles
i just want to report i was 2/100 in 20 cubed
My God, you probably already had that money spent. Nobody ever finishes out of the money when they're in second place with 100 left.
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07-08-2010 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WallaceWins
Yes, this is exactly what Full Tilt wants you to do ... they like to spread the money around because they make Rake.

Its a computer program Guys and Gals - I play enough on line to see the patterns here. Its not really random as you think.

Of course there are Idiots that play live like last night a 72 yr old man called my "nit self" all in with A2 vs my A9s (i had 3 big blinds left) and rivered a 2 to knock me out in 27th..

7 hands before he called my button KQs all in with 910 off and rivered a 9.

Sometime you just "Run Bad" against very bad players I guess...
you cant be real?
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07-08-2010 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
you cant be real?
that proofs your theory yarbles , but in case he would win that hand, he would like never ever mention it or even remember that it occured untill next time hes ai A2 vs A9 and he loooooooooses.

That doesn't change my opinion about full tilt being rigged what so ever.
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