LOL. Wrong.

because the link to the show was infact PAD, maybe thats why i said that?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are leveling here. Seems to be a pointless one. If you are not leveling then I'm not sure what else can be said...

i can show you a link right now to a video that shows phil hellmuths pocket 9s vs chans ace 6 spades before the cards were turned up, so i just assume they had hole card cams. maybe it was editied i shall find out and reply back.

They did not have hole card cams at the WSOP until 2002 I believe (did not have them in 1989).


Of course .... this is irrelevant.

You are most certainly wrong. Here is an excerpt from another article:
That said I'm glad you are finally acknowledging that "hole card cams" are an actual entity in themselves and nothing to do with online poker.

So what? Why can't they reference Phil Gordon being an announcer on other shows? (There is no reason they can't .... and they actually did.)

ok maybe one of you are right about one thing so far in this whole thread, like i said i watched it on tv and just assumed. i guess it would make sense for it not to be live tho. altho i still do not understand why you clowns still line up in a thread that has nothing to offer you but post counts. so just let us "riggies or rigtards or w/e" dicuss in peace? k peace.

While you appear to have nothing to offer, there are others who have a genuine interest in these issues and are worth discussing these issues with.

back again are we? i have noticed you in about every "riggie" thread there is on this site. i understand your the type of person that wants people to come in here that have never played online poker and tell them everything is smooth, nothing is wrong with it and to just trust you.

i was wondering if anybody has statistics on getting delt pocket pairs, i have always noticed whenever i get delt a pair almost always somebody else does also. i know this happens live but it seems to happen alot when i play online. just curious.

I do now.

I don't know how to keep track of how often somebody else gets dealt a pokcet pair when I am dealt a pocket pair because I only get to see other players' cards if it goes to showdown and I only get to see the cards of the player(s) who go to showdown. So most of the time I get dealt a pocket pair I don't know what most or any of the other players got dealt.


If somebody else can think of something post it and I'll post the numbers from my sample.

cool, i know you wont always get to a showdown but i know for myself whenever i get delt a hand i just assume 1 or 2 more people have also been delt one. so i expect action and action i get.

wtf, no.

Like, there are many things you can accuse me of, but covering up cheating in online poker is not one of them.

Josem had a large role in uncovering and exposing the cheating that was occurring at UB FYI .... to explain what Josem just meant.

Reading that part made me laugh. Must have been the way I read it.

You, admittedly, work for an online site.

It's not a far stretch of the imagination to surmise you will cover up improprieties from your employer, yet seek them out from competing sites.

Of course it is a stretch of the imagination, because I've never done this.

I said "far stretch".
The fact that you distort the context of the conversation and the meaning of a post elicits an effort to conceal what is true.

He started working for pokerstars AFTER all that. Do you EVER make a justified accusation? Why not ask questions rather than jumping in.

ok
question.

How do you know when he started working for stars?

I made a thread about it at the time: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...rstars-124537/

This is a well known story around here. Plus, you can actually ASK him. Oh wait, I know, during that whole thing Josem really was a pokerstars employee undercover. He set up the whole thing, including going on 60 minutes. Then later pretended to get hired by pokerstars for real.

I would guess there are billions of posts here. As smart as I must seem to you, I cannot be expected to follow them all.

I am the guys at stars, who, when someone talks crap to me, I throw them beyond tilt.

I am new to this debate, but that doesn't take away

the validity and logical basis of my arguments.

(separate and bold for easy quoting).

I have always maintained I only post here when I am at stars, and that I do not believe it is rigged. Cash Omaha is colluded sic, my HH request was a setup, I know how the results would be. To bad no one has the access to stars HH's......they should give them to a security official there.


I will continue to berate beraters, and mock the weak arguments that all is kosher, nothing to see here, move along.