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Originally Posted by tk1133
Ok, your an idiot...
Your comparing carvnival games w/ online poker? Are you insane?
So what your saying that you don't want your banking system regulated and/or it doesn't need regulations?
Would you shoot dice w/ me over the phone? We can play for online poker funds...
You have poor reading comprehension. I was comparing the upset losers (who are paranoid to think the games are rigged.. yet they still play
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
Sure, they were using superuser accounts, so why do those accounts even exist? When you play in the brick and mortar, the floor manager does not have access to your hole cards, they can watch what is going on without seeing everyones hands until after they are turned up. There is hand history tracking too, so why do they need to see everyones hand in realtime? why not check a few hands later in the hand histories?
Also, there are ways to manipulate the math. I have been in situations where big pairs come and everyone folds to my blind or my normal raise. This shows a win for that hand, but then deep in tournaments, when I am all in, I seem to lose more hands than normal with these same big hands when my tournament life is at stake. Sure, this is more than likely just bad luck, but on the other hand, it could just be the other part of the manipulation so that my big pair report looks good, but my outcome is still severly affected. It is either bad luck (very likely) or program manipulation (less likely but still possible). In this situation, there is no way you could find anything wrong with the numbers, so then it is just chalked up to variance.
Well, when you had a big pair and made a normal raise and everyone folded, that hand doesn't really count. The hands that count are the ones that are played and shown. Hand histories don't show cards that don't belong in a showdown.
Believe me bro. I know where you coming from. I lose my a$$ online. I've said it before. And I also admitted that it's my fault. But that was only after a friend, who's been successful online for years now, showed me how bad I was playing. So how and why do I do so good (usually) playing live? I've been doing well for myself for what's going on 3 years. You know why? It's a different game altogether. It's not that live poker isn't rigged and online is. Sht, I suspect people of collusion all the time. You see guys playing soft against some people, making weird faces and hand gestures n sht. But unless I have proof I just stay aware when I'm up against them in a hand. But online is a much harder game. People just play faster and much better (than your average live reg). The people I play are tourists and drunk idiots who stumble into a card room to chase what they just lost in the casino. I pick on weaker players. How do you do that online? Well, one way is to hit the micros where most of the fish are. Or maybe the super cheap sit n go's. But once you go up into the low stakes you're playing against experienced players. They have a lot of experience. They've seen all the moves. They are more aware of playing styles. You want to do better? Raise like crazy and play like a nit! Then just vary your play a little with your card range and keep the pots small against the bad players to milk them for what you can. But if you're playing against better players than you.. Raisy Daisy like you're crazy! Get the better players to lay down more of their hands. If not, they'll outplay you over and over again. Trust me. All that AND get into using Poker Tracker and all that sht. If people have info on you.. you need it on them. With experience you can use that info you get to your advantage. But if you think poker is about waiting for good cards and "getting it in good".. but you're just unlucky when you get sucked out on.. you're really missing the big picture.
Poker is about consuming [amounts in] BB's while losing the least amount possible in marginal situations. You got it good.. extract. You don't.. push.. or retract. Fancy moves only make for fancy losing when you're not a great player. I beat up on suckers all day when I play. But every once in a while.. a good player gets in the game that I didn't pick up on fast enough.. and then I'm, all of a sudden, the sucker. Online.. I'm (more than not) that sucker.
Don't be a sucker! It sucks! But don't blame random, stupid, unprovable sht for your losing or bad luck UNLESS you have PROOF you're a great player AND you have PROOF the site's ****ing you.
I meant all of that sincerely, too. Losing sucks. But being in denial is much worse.
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Last edited by LVGambler; 12-04-2009 at 08:21 PM.