They claimed to have started 30+ poker accounts to "test" the theory that new accounts/dormant accounts are given a hot run.

Did he post any of his evidence before being banned? I stopped reading when he said it took about 20 minutes to switch between machine images

No, and he was apparently someone's alt, so shockingly, there was probably no proof.

I would do it as C(36,5) / C(44,5) which is equivalent.

Of course there's nothing to stop someone creating their own online poker server. That's the beauty of the industry: if you think you can do a better job, you can start your own online poker site.

I am not trying to be a troll, but it just happens sometimes. I guess I do get a little mischievious. Is it so bad to try and have some fun while you are learning? I just like to play both sides of the fence sometimes because I am not 100% trusting of any site. I am a recovering rigtard, so I have temporary relapses. You guys do make it fun to little molitov cocktails into the mix though. Josem answered my question nicely offline. Class act that guy is.

qft

Yes, and for $1000 to $3000 you can expect to something pretty sophisticated and well tested.

That has to be a level, right?

No, obviously paying $5k isn't going to be sufficient. But compared to most 'old economy' industries the barrier to entry is going to be much lower.

The illuminati and fulltilt connection, is this even remotely possible...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyRlj5HpIs

wow.

Today I quit online poker (I freakin' mean it this time, buddy). This was the last mother-f'n straw. I'll make the 35 min. drive to the Casino. Here's why:


Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

TheExcession (UTG+1): t1060 M = 23.56
diggdodger (MP1): t1520 M = 33.78
LKHOS (MP2): t825 M = 18.33
ezmp (CO): t1390 M = 30.89
PeterG86 (BTN): t1515 M = 33.67
lazEboy673 (SB): t4965 M = 110.33
Hero (BB): t990 M = 22
mej500 (UTG): t1235 M = 27.44

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with T K
2 folds, diggdodger calls t30, LKHOS raises to t60, 3 folds, Hero calls t30, diggdodger calls t30

Flop: (t195) T Q K (3 players)
Hero checks, diggdodger checks, LKHOS bets t120, Hero raises to t930 all in, diggdodger folds, LKHOS calls t645 all in

Turn: (t1725) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t1725) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t1725
LKHOS shows 2 6 (three of a kind, Deuces)
Hero shows T K (two pair, Kings and Tens)
LKHOS wins t1725



How could anyone make this call unless they could see the board? I know people make frustration calls preflop w/ any 2, but on the flop? With 6-2 and no clubs? What possible justification could there be other than cheating?

This has happened to me several times over the past couple of years. You would expect to win some of these. But every time someone makes an unexplainable call like this, boom! They hit the f'n Lotto!

I keep waiting for someone to make a call like this and lose the hand, but no. They always win. When I get a super-weird call that makes absolutely no sense, it's gotten to the point I know I've lost the hand as soon as I see their stupid f'n cards. I just sit back and watch the impossible unfold. As soon as I saw the mother-f'n 6-2, I actually yelled out loud "six-six"! I knew something very, very strange and fubb-kupped was about to happen to me. I missed, but I was close.

This NEVER happens live. In the history of live poker no one has ever made a dick call like this.

These douches always seem to be from Russia or Eastern Europe.

Please, someone explain this to me! Why is it not possible to crack the RNG? Why do these guys only make these calls when they hit? Why do I never get to laugh after the hand and say "dumbest call of all time, douchebag! What were you thinking, dicknose"?

I'm done with on-line poker! I mean it! Done, done, done, done, finished, forever! And yes, I'm pissed-off!!

Now I have to go and kick the dog for a few minutes. Here Nappy....Here Nappy...While the wife's out....Here boy....Where's my frickin' Zoloft....Here boy....

Too Wise

Two reasons

1) Poker Stars $10+$1

$11 is not life changing money to everyone.

2) He sucks.

If you actually bothered to check his lifetime stats you will see he is just a bad player with a pretty advanced downhill ski slope as his chart for the few dozen tournaments he has played in.


But who knows, maybe he just used his special powers against you and is staying under the radar by losing a lot otherwise.

Sounds like you have some sound reasoning skills.

Obviously a Stars superbot, who steals other players' equity in tournaments to pass along to other superbots to mincash to keep things hidden.

Of course it happens live, by drunk players, first-time players (this was a $10 tourney), players on tilt, players who feel like gambling, players who have to get up and go for whatever reason so they shove ATC, etc etc. All these things happen online even more.

a sick beat, for sure... check out his PTR stats... hardly the graph of a player who has cracked the RNG... just another idiot

One time I did ask a player what he was thinking on a similarly strange play (he called an all in preflop with 52 o for 40 BB in a large MTT when he had been playing reasonable until then).

He explained that he had to pick up his hash and would be afk for 45 minutes so figure he may as well try to double/triple or else get blinded out.

He made the +EV play given his narcotic needs.

I wouldn't expect his stats to be impressive. A cheater would have to look like an idiot. He would never win, just grab chips and dump them to a partner.

And CALL ALL-IN with 6 high on the flop? On that board? No one would ever do this. Maybe shove PF, but nobody would be drunk enough, late enough, bored enough, horny enough, etc. He could only win with 66, 22, or 62. What are the odds? Less than 1%? Just shove on the next hand PF if you gotta go.

But whatever the odds, you're missing my point. This has come up only 4 or 5 times the last couple of years. A few hands out of hundreds of thousands. A guy makes what seems to be the worst call of all time, really unexplainable. And each time it's happened, they hit their hand. Why can't someone make a truly horrible call; no, worse than horrible, unexplainably bad, and miss. People make horrendous calls all the time. I'm talking about the really special calls, those with no explaination. These are the ones I've lost, and never won.

If cheating software could exist, and I'm not saying it does or did (I'm just pissed right now), you would still have to be smart to use it. Without being obvious. If this software got in the hands of someone not too bright, or a little too greedy, it would be easy to spot. Like when you call AI with nothing and hit running 2's to win.

Flame away, shills.

Too Wise

In hundreds of thousands of hands, you've only seen 4 or 5 people make completely ******ed calls?

Move down where they don't respect your raises, I guess?

So your theory is that he is working with a partner and dumping his chips and losing pretty much all of his sit and gos on purpose as part of a team effort?

What an interesting theory.



A guy who is drunk may. A guy who misclicked may. A guy who has no idea how to play may.

Why is it that it has to be an intentionally losing super user in conjunction with a partner in your eyes?

Are you drunk?



It's been explained.

He sucks. That's why is is a perma losing player.

Perma losing players make a lot of bad plays.

Once in a while they will win one of these due to the math of the game.



You don't remember when they miss. I see these idiots every day.

They miss a lot.

That's why they perma lose, even if they get lucky once in a while.


It has been explained, they suck. That's why they always lose.


I'll explain this statement as well.

This is called a lie said because you have the emotional stability of a 2 year old (a moody one).



Yeah, a good plan is to wait for insane beats that really stand out to use that superuser info. Don't bet people off hands when you know they will fold and nobody will see your hand, save up for the glitzy runner runner wacky beats everyone can see. Meanwhile, continue to lose a lot of money to hide what you are doing.

Better if you work with a partner as well.

Seems reasonable.



Grow up.

and this is the kind of stuff you NEVER see in live games.

if i cant see the cards being dealt, and someone calls an all in with 6 high and 3 percent to win the hand and ends up winning, then there has to be some element of artificiality involved. its just that simple. you just dont see this stuff in REAL live poker games.

but if you guys wanna continue to sit in your bedrooms, 6-tabling on pokerstars while bragging about how good your preflop statistics are, then go right ahead....

Did you guys see Ivey's AK < AQ? Live poker is so rigged.

So the 3 percenters don't win 3 percent of the time live?

Sounds to me like live poker is rigged.

wtf, no.

a pretty core part of the whole 'random' thing is that anything can happen. how can you simultaneously complain that the dealing is not random, and as proof of that, show something very random?

Hey there! Welcome back! Did you ever end up reading the whole thread?