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Originally Posted by Eddie Mush
Keep babling about standard deviation and question my knowledge of statistics if it makes you feel better (by the way advanced statistics is part of my MBA).
Look, compile your own simulation of something random, and graph it. Do this yourself so you can't accuse me or anyone else of running some conspiracy here. Do it using something from outside poker to prove this is a universal concept.
You will see that over time, your graph will look further away from the mean, just as the graph talked about at that other website.
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I do not disagree that a lot of people without EV graphs, lots of hands and knowledge of variance claims they just know onlinepoker is rigged. This is bad, almost as bad as someone insisting onlinepoker is 100% clean without anything but AP and UB to back this claim up (ironi).
No one is claiming online poker is 100% clean.
My view is that the random shuffle process at PokerStars is fair, random and unbiased. I have that view 'cause that's what I know best. I also happen to think that it's unlikely that any other major site has any problems with their shuffle.
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You want evidence online poker is rigged. Players only have their graphs and handhistories to back their need for security up.
Yes, exactly. So show some graph or hand history that shows something wrong.
If the shuffle of a site is rigged, it will change the outcome of hands. This will be reflected in hand histories.
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They have no rights, there is no control, if it turns out to be rigged no one goes to jail and so on.
This is just not true.
I work for an online poker site. If I was involved in rigging a deck or stealing equity from a player in some way, I would expect to go to jail for it.
The USA is not the only place in the world with courts and jails and a legal system. You folks didn't invent these things, and the rest of us largely obey our laws too.
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Really you should start demanding Stars provide evidence they are using a RNG 24/7 instead of blindly defending them because you do not know for sure if they use a RNG 24/7 you just think they do.
I don't understand how they could not be using a RNG 24/7.
Do you mean that to allege, for example, the deck is rigged only between 1pm and 3pm? Or do you mean something else?
Like, the fact that decks are shuffled and dealt 24/7 is pretty strong evidence that the PokerStars server is shuffling and dealing 24/7. Given that their RNG is self-evidently a fundamental part of their shuffling and dealing process, I don't understand how you could imagine their RNG is only operating part-time.