Never thought i would miss Riverstars so much after a few years of America's Riggedroom

Yeah, after playing every other site under the sun, I realise that jokerstars is 1 of the least rigged sites. You wouldn't know that without trying other sites though. If you'd never play other sites, you'd think jokerstars was the biggest scam site ever, turns out there's many that are worse lol.

I don't play NL anymore, I just played a few 1000 hands to take a break from PLO. As soon as I started playing though, I got flashbacks why I quit NL back in the day!

I do have many plo hands if you want to run anything!
Specifically double suited boards with the river left to be dealt! I will bet my life, I make less than 40%

You can look at draws, pretty sure, I miss more than I should and my opponents make more than they should!

But I already know this shill scammer won't take me up on it because the truth will come out!

Very easy for you to prove. I assume you use a simple package like Omaha Tracker which stores literally all your hands, so with a little help of filtering (can get that help if needed in the software forums) and some help with doing a statistical analysis (ask in the probability forum) you should be able to create a very testable theory and then apply that to your data, and if it shows anything then you can ask others to test their data.

Now whether you offer to wager your actual life when doing this is up to you, but you can likely have all of this done for a minimal cost (perhaps pay a database expert a couple hundred to run the analysis with your hand history data), so for now you can likely drop the condition of you ending your life if your imagined rig does not show in your data.

Do not worry, not a single person ever expects a riggie to go past the whining stages. The few that have (you can search AMEC0404 in this thread for instance) that had their data tested for their various whining have had it show that it was all in their head.

There you go - I gave you literally all the steps you need to do to prove your rig. Now it is your turn. Your hands and your theory, but it is safe to assume that you will not do anything, because riggies.

All the best.

Owh, so now you change your stance and won't do the work to disprove me. Now you want me to pay a few hundo and do all sorts of work to prove what I already know that the sites are rigged.

I thought it was "riggies" don't even provide hands??? I am willing to give you my hands, why you suddenly adding all sorts of steps??

No idea why you think I would do work for you to prove your imaginary riggie beliefs. Guess riggies create all sorts of fantasy worlds in their head that way.

This is your theory, whatever it is. You have your hands. I told you ways you could prove your theory (whatever it is), some of which would be low or no cost (ask questions how to prove it in the appropriate forums), while another path would be to properly pay a database expert to prove it and save you a lot of time. Why should anyone volunteer to do work for you when you are too lazy to even go to the Holdem/Omaha Manager forums to ask some basic questions as to how to test your concerns with their software.

Keep in mind, this is something you indicated you would be willing to bet your life on, so kind of amusing that a little bit of time or a small amount of money is what concerns you. Guess that shows how much your life is worth, but that is a different topic.

I have said riggies do not provide hands for a proper analysis. If you want to break the riggie mold in that regard then find someone with proper expertise in database analysis (I am not the right person for that) who also is indifferent to the riggie nonsense (since if I said your data finds nothing you would assume it is a shill coverup).

Will you do any of that? Of course not. Will you continue to whine about your poker experience without any real data to back it up? Of course, because riggies are gonna riggie in the end.

All the best.

I have real data, you muppet! Just like I thought though, you are backing down. Again I will provide the hands, so you can prove its not rigged, just like you stated earlier!

Cool. Find someone who has ability to analyze your database (go to the stats forum or Holdem Manager forum) and ask if anyone can help you prove whatever your specific theory is (you have not really made it clear). While I would suggest dropping all the riggie baggage as that tends to make people completely uninterested in helping, I realize that is not always easy for riggies to do.

Again, be very specific what you want tested, and make it clear how many hands you have on which site over what period of time, and they will better explain the methodology of doing just that. Once that is done then it is time to do the testing, and if something significant appears then we go from there.

You keep acting as if it is my responsibility to look at every wacky riggies hands to disprove their imaginary rigs, but that is one of the most mundane ways riggies avoid doing any work for themselves (usually because they know their beliefs are wrong). If your whatever rig exists then statistics will prove it, so stop being so entitled and lazy, and do the minimal work YOU need to do to prove YOUR theory (whatever it even is) at this point. I gave you the simple steps for you to do just that, in fact here is a link to the forums where you can get some help.

https://forums.holdemmanager.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71&

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25/probability/


Feel free to link the threads you started in those forums to better learn how to prove your theory, or continue doing what you are good at - whining while doing literally nothing. Riggies gonna riggie in the end.

All the best.

Please quote where Monty offered to look at your hands. He's just told you in easy terms how you could prove the rig you know exists ... exists.

Why won't you try it, instead of trying to get someone else to do the minimal work involved?

Riggies in the Global Poker Forum RNG thread typically "prove" their riggie theory by pointing out that hand histories are unavailable on Global, so the riggie can't *prove* their theory to the masses. The absence of hand histories must mean that Global is up to no good with their RNG.

But, here we have a riggie who DOES have a hand history, but won't do the work to prove his theory.

Typical riggie.

LOL@ this montroy poster. Has been posting in thread for two decades and still hasent figured out that its rigged.

That belief is helped by the fact that in all that time not a single riggie has yet to prove a single riggie theory. You have been a void/stalker riggie for a decade at this point, so when will you figure out that zero total proof from all the riggies over the last two decades means something? Good luck in whatever it is you are doing these days, and see you next year when another year will pass with more riggies complaining and not proving a single complaint.

All the best.

So you are already planning on remaining in this thread till next year complaining to people they have no evidence?

Not sure why people like you regard it as complaining. I never expect a riggie to ever prove anything or do any work, but often times riggies can be a nice source of light amusement, and since I am still very active in this industry - a nice mental break is good now and then. Riggies are perfect for that, essentially they are pets.

In contrast, you quit this industry about a decade ago when you were no longer able to compete (correct choice, one other riggies should follow), yet you still obsessively return here a few times a year to whine, like how salmon return to rivers to spawn. The industry passed you by in around 2010, so why have you not been able to let this thread go yet? You probably should move on with your life at this point, but that is your choice in the end. See you next year.

All the best.

Why when you sit at a table for hours waiting for a hand to double up off the big stack you never get a hand. Then as soon as they leave the table you get dealt AA or KK? Happens every time. Is it rigged?

Obviously rigged. Quit online poker at once, and go for a nice walk in the woods.

Looking forward to seeing your compelling evidence, so this thread can finally be locked.

It's actually comical how doom or boom ACR is...you either clobber every flop with every hand or can't buy a pot and miss everything no matter what you do...the mtt bigstack suckouts are atrocious too...by far the biggest scam site i've seen in over 10 years online

I have been playing on pp for about a week now, playing mtts. I find it kinda suspicious regarding rng. I have seen so many straights+ and it seems to be quite skewed. I have no data to back it up, just an observation. And this happens to me as well as villains. Compared to ps it's quite noticeably higher occurrence.

Does anyone else have similar feelings or my head is just making stuff up?

I tried playing that site, a few years ago. After quitting river stars I thought it must be better elsewhere and tried ACR/black chip poker. Big fat lol...

You notice very quickly how your 80-20 dominating hands mean absolutely nothing on that site!

After a few sessions and just constant bad beats, by the same housebots, I quickly realised I couldn't win. Didn't know back then they were housebots, but after many more years and many more sites, I realise now that they are all using house bots to take our money.

The tourney "big stack" plays are also on every site, housebots designed to A. make you buyin more often and B. not let you cash in tournaments.

Online poker has been dead for years now. My advice for any interested playing online poker is to seek networks (not skins/sites, but different networks with different software) that are newer and smaller to the market and see what kind of a rake you'll be paying and then determine after sampling certain hand number if their card generator is close to matching the odds.

That being said I'm curious of all the new poker providers that came over the last 1-2 year.

Online poker is not rigged.

But some poker rooms are.

Nope,
it doesn't look rigged to me.

@Weetam

All you've displayed is some random graphic and keep in mind this is tournament. You failed to mention the network but let's assume it's stars. Even if stars is "not" rigged it's same as it is given the rake they charge vs the rake they return.

So, played who focus on tournaments only benefit the most on such low rake return network.

I just wanted to say yellow and green line was close enough. So poker wasn't rigged for me in last half year.

MPN, Fish party.

EDIT: on the other hand - MPN is rigged.

Nope, it's not even remotely close to the same.

After withdrawing from playnow.com yesterday, I have busted out of 6 MTTs deep by someone holding A8 while I held either A10, AJ, AQ and AK each time. Everytime this happened it was deep in blind steal situations where they called their stack into my preflop allin.

This is a site that does not provide hand histories and does not let you see opponents showdown hands if you win against them.

Im not a coincidence theorist anymore. In MTT's its very easy to set players up for allins because with few blinds to play with there is forced moves you have to take and they can make sure chips are dumped to players who are least likely to cash out or dont have a history of cashing out recently.