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02-26-2017 , 07:53 PM
Good too see Monteroy is continuing to max his potential as a human. Is this your 10 year anniversary in the riggie thread?
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02-26-2017 , 08:44 PM
I have had success in this industry longer than that. No idea which posting account this is of your likely many, but the opposite of success can be found simply by looking at your posting history. Lot of anger, jealousy and bitterness, so while I continue to succeed you may want to look for opportunities elsewhere, or better yet keep doing what you are doing.

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call the industry DR, Pokerstars is in need of Euthanasia. Time for them to be put out of misery. Thanks for the memories Scheinberg. This company is unrecognizable now and reaks of lies and scam
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The complete demise of Pokerstars in every facet of compan;y except advertising. Software, customer support, promotions, security? Casjout times, public relations, transparency, honesty all off a cliff and 100% effort in to getting pedro and his 7 brothers and blind grandmother to deposit and play spin and goes. Ffs get rid of those pathetic daily 500$ givenothingaways. The goal is to
Gove away meaningless prizes so nothing isCashed out. Disingenious andsadly, standard. How can it get worse? Please dont take away the 2$ giveaways
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incompetence, unprofessionalism, customer disregard
(last one in a software thread).


You seem like a happy soul Keep playing!

All the best.
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02-26-2017 , 09:16 PM
Just curious if anyone has noticed ACR seems to have runner runner suck outs more often for the past few weeks. Seems like it has been happening more and more and players are beginning to take notice. Thoughts?
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02-26-2017 , 10:32 PM
Ok I am just going to say it. Jungmit is totally ******ed and there is no way around it. I am sorry if it offends him but it is the truth and I think he should be protected from himself at this point.

Sorry Jungmit for making fun of you up to this point. It's not that we think you're stupid but it's mostly that we think you aren't smart. You would serve yourself well by not responding any more.
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02-26-2017 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
what you said was



Essentially saying that the site decides if you win one day you will lose the next or perhaps if you lose one day the site will have you win the next day.


You get frustrated that people do not understand what you say, and a lot of that is because you express yourself very poorly. You rarely make sense, and you lie a lot, and I assume English is your only language, so it is a shame you use it so poorly.

Your whole bet you will win the next day babble was with another poster, not me. I simply told you how to exploit the rig to make millions, and in reply you said to me that you use the rig and because of that it is why you are a winning player. A shame that you got those conversations jumbled together in your head, but that is your nature.

In the end you either lied about being a winning player, or you lied about the winning/losing day rig. You still have not chosen which you lied about, but in the end it does not matter as you will lie about something else soon enough. Try to make your lies more entertaining.

All the best.
Good try monty

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Originally Posted by Jakeslr2
Just curious if anyone has noticed ACR seems to have runner runner suck outs more often for the past few weeks. Seems like it has been happening more and more and players are beginning to take notice. Thoughts?
Don't question it.... monty and the gang will say u are a moron.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 02-27-2017 at 09:13 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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02-27-2017 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Good try monty
Hey, I always try explaining things to you in as simple a way as possible, while fully knowing that you will never understand. That is how you exist, just try to lie less, or at least lie better, in future.

All the best.
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02-27-2017 , 09:19 AM
TIL that apparently opening Q7 on the BTN is bad.

Lol.
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02-27-2017 , 02:33 PM
I will be soon starting a live channel that exposes why how it is impossible to win consistently if you are a skilled player on Pokerstars.

I will be making a $50000 dollar bet to anyone that I can call the hand at showdown if its not rigged I cannot do this.This will be at showdown only over x hands to win half a million you also have the chance to call it.

We are now pitching to media outlets and so forth so step up.
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02-27-2017 , 02:53 PM
Weird prop bet offer, but if you explain it better then you will have NO problem getting as much action as you like providing you put the odds heavily on the other sides favor (unless your super rig detection powers kick into place).

For a bet that size you should definitely not post it in the riggie thread, but as a main forum topic.

Your details are very unclear, as "calling the hand" needs better clarification. Are you calling specifically another player's cards? WHat are you calling?

Also, you will need to do enough samples of your super power (say 100 or more) to properly do whatever test you suggest. Since you can see the future (yet are talking about it instead of exploiting it for millions) this condition should not be a problem.

Feel free to provide more specifics and we can see what can be cobbled together that makes sense, and that will be a lot more powerful when you approach all the major media, who are no doubt stopping all the presses in anticipation.

All the best.
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02-27-2017 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeslr2
Just curious if anyone has noticed ACR seems to have runner runner suck outs more often for the past few weeks. Seems like it has been happening more and more and players are beginning to take notice. Thoughts?
Well how many were there before you noticed, and how many have you noticed lately?

Surely you have this information.

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I will be soon starting a live channel that exposes why how it is impossible to win consistently if you are a skilled player on Pokerstars.

I will be making a $50000 dollar bet to anyone that I can call the hand at showdown if its not rigged I cannot do this.This will be at showdown only over x hands to win half a million you also have the chance to call it.
If you work out actual details and post about it in NVG, you'll have all your action booked in probably about 30 minutes.

Hard to make a bet that involves other people also calling out winning hands so I'd ditch that and just focus on you being able to spot the rig over X hands and things like how many you need to get right to win your bet.
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We are now pitching to media outlets and so forth so step up.
lol, I can just imagine you'll have them beating down your door with such an exciting idea.

Who wouldn't want to watch some guy watch other people play poker and then guess what hand will win at showdown? Should slot right in behind "Watch Paint Dry" Wednesdays on NBC.
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02-27-2017 , 05:25 PM
Let me be clear Stars is so manipulated I will put up 500k I am a Million Dollar winner my human values and resistant have nothing to do with any personal or other in this thread.

I am sick of being unfairly treated as a million dollar winner who cannot dime it in at Stars..


And BTW i dont read TLDR put the money up then we talk.
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02-27-2017 , 05:34 PM
Put up money for what? You have not specified any terms. List specific terms for a prop bet, and if they will properly measure your card predicting abilities to be outside the expected then you will get as much action as you can handle.

As played so far it just seems like you are tiltraging, but if that is all you want to do then I suppose continue, however you have not presented anything of substance to be looked at as prop bets go, and you likely know it, otherwise you would rush with the specifics to try to get the action on it. Saying "put up or shut up" without specifying what one is betting on is meaningless from a prop betting perspective, even if it makes you feel better for the moment.

All the best.
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02-27-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Let me be clear Stars is so manipulated I will put up 500k I am a Million Dollar winner
OK, pretty clear so far.
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my human values and resistant have nothing to do with any personal or other in this thread.
Aaaaaaaand you've lost me.
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I am sick of being unfairly treated as a million dollar winner who cannot dime it in at Stars..
OK.
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And BTW i dont read TLDR put the money up then we talk.
As Monteroy said, put up what money?

You don't even seem to understand how prop bets work but as I said if you manage to figure out how to word your bet and offer action in NVG you'll get as much as you want.

I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is.
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02-28-2017 , 07:21 AM
That's worth a

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02-28-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hitman4hire
Let me be clear Stars is so manipulated I will put up 500k I am a Million Dollar winner my human values and resistant have nothing to do with any personal or other in this thread.

I am sick of being unfairly treated as a million dollar winner who cannot dime it in at Stars..


And BTW i dont read TLDR put the money up then we talk.
Did anyone ever tell you and your "human values" that you're not very smart and should be protected from yourself?
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03-02-2017 , 03:02 PM
There is no arguments: 888 poker is a scam. A legitimate Scam.

Please don't reply with your usual, "You need to look at your game" BS. I have looked at my game and concluded that the site is rigged.

Never have I seen so many instances where the MTT bigger stack has a 'RIVER REVERSAL', hitting a magical out to win. If it were legit, by the very nature of them needing a 'magic out' it would happen rarely, but it doesn't. It happens with almost certainty.

Waiting for the shills to 'fess up...
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03-02-2017 , 03:03 PM
Forget the shill answers.

Here's a realistic sample of what 'real' players have concluded.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/888poker.com

Interesting, don't you think?
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03-02-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by genkiDev
Forget the shill answers.

Here's a realistic sample of what 'real' players have concluded.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/888poker.com

Interesting, don't you think?
Translation:

Forget any answers that disagree with me.

Here's a realistic sample of what 'real' players have concluded - I know they're real because they agree with me. Anyone who disagrees is a shill.
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03-02-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Forget any answers that disagree with me.

Here's a realistic sample of what 'real' players have concluded - I know they're real because they agree with me. Anyone who disagrees is a shill.
Translation: I am a shill.
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03-02-2017 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by genkiDev
There is no arguments: 888 poker is a scam. A legitimate Scam.

Please don't reply with your usual, "You need to look at your game" BS. I have looked at my game and concluded that the site is rigged.

Never have I seen so many instances where the MTT bigger stack has a 'RIVER REVERSAL', hitting a magical out to win. If it were legit, by the very nature of them needing a 'magic out' it would happen rarely, but it doesn't. It happens with almost certainty.

Waiting for the shills to 'fess up...

You have more than shills to worry about, as there are riggies who believe the sites are rigged to help the small stack, not the big stack, so they are seeing other patterns with their own eyes. Are those riggies wrong? As well, some riggies believe 888 is ok, though other rooms are not, such as the following riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=75516


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Originally Posted by totallyFKDoff
I shared a great theory with an irrefutable basis in fact. Same story as above.

I shared tips on how to beat pokerstars software. Same story as above.

Pokerstars is rigged from top to bottom. I was playing there today and got so sick of losing every time I was favourite, I quit the software and played on 2 other poker sites. On the first site (888) I won 2 mtts from 5 entries, having not won an mtt from 2000 entries on pokerstars. On the other site (betfair) I cashed in all mtts entered. I didn't run particularly good on either site, I just held with monster hands at important moments.

Having played around on a few sites lately, I am convinced that I have been defrauded for many months by pokerstars. The thing that should alarm you "anti-riggies" most is that independently, on different continents, thousands of times over, the same accusations are levelled at pokerstars. Either we are all ****ing crazy to see these same patterns over and over, or pokerstars is having a ****ing laugh at our expense.

His facts oppose your beliefs, and were, according to him, "irrefutable," while you simply said you looked at your game. His made up riggie facts come with a lot more riggie force than yours, but do you think that riggie was wrong with what he saw with his eyes and his unverified data?

Anyway, you may want to arrange a gathering of the riggies to come up with a universal theory using all of your declared facts to help reduce the riggie theory paradoxes you guys constantly create. Also, quit all forms of poker.

All the best.
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03-02-2017 , 04:22 PM
They are all rigged. What does winning or losing have to do with a rig? Some one has to win a hand and someone has to lose it unless it's a tie. I never understood what winning a hand other losing a hand has to do with rigged. If u ask a site if they are rigged their first response Is we have many players who win. So what?
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03-02-2017 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by genkiDev
There is no arguments: 888 poker is a scam. A legitimate Scam.

Please don't reply with your usual, "You need to look at your game" BS. I have looked at my game and concluded that the site is rigged.
I'm sure you've taken a deep, introspective look since Monday when you weren't sure if push/fold charts were legit or not based on losing 3 hands.
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Never have I seen so many instances where the MTT bigger stack has a 'RIVER REVERSAL', hitting a magical out to win. If it were legit, by the very nature of them needing a 'magic out' it would happen rarely, but it doesn't. It happens with almost certainty.
And yet instead of exploiting this rig to make yourself millions of dollars you come whining onto 2+2 about it.

Very altruistic.
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03-02-2017 , 06:10 PM
Look! I'll be honest. This thread has become my 'Tilt room', when I experience a continuous run of bad fortune I come here and scream "Rigged"!

Shortly after writing a tyrade of nonsense my tilt slowly starts to diminish and my mindset returns to a more balanced "it can't be rigged, can it? Surely not. Let's just start playing again and see if our AK holds against A7".

So, there you have it, I'm abusing this thread as if it were my very own tilt room and I am undecided on whether to believe that what I am seeing is constructed on purpose, or if it is indeed natural variance.
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03-02-2017 , 08:19 PM
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I am undecided on whether to believe that what I am seeing is constructed on purpose, or if it is indeed natural variance.
If only there were ways to look into this issue.
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03-04-2017 , 03:27 PM
https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...yers/shagrat33

I played micro stakes to test the site out and needless to say it is 100% rigged. I have noticed that I have only flopped about 2 or 3 sets after playing this whole time (had over 500 PP's at least). I have flopped at least 250-300 flush draws(some of them with open end strait draws and gutshots) and will never hit my card that I need unless the pot is really small. I have never won a hand with chips in the pot holding hands like AA or KK. I have ran deep in quite a few tourny's and can just tell that I will not win any more hands once I get around the bubble. The only tourny I won anything substantial was on my FIRST deposit into the site, and I put in 100$ that day, and played all day and lost everything and got down to literally 2 or 3$ and got 2nd place in that tournament for 95$. I got up to 170 shortly after that. And then I signed off and came on the next day and started trying to "grind" micro stakes tournaments and literally lost all 170 that day playing 2-5$ buy ins. I was losing with good hands all day and getting called on every single bluff. Even if I was playing really tight people just call me.

...... Its really hard to say everything that has happened because there have been literally thousands of hands that I have been ****ed over in. I know this happens in poker but with online poker I SEE IT COMING FROM A MILE AWAY. I just dont understand.... How can I have such bad luck unless its rigged. I have watched all the top youtube videos on poker, I have watched streamers who win consistently and they just magically run good and cash in alot of tournaments. They talk like they know wtf they are talking about but really they are just not getting bent over. "3 bet, blah blah blah". I am not a ****** I know how to do basic math. I know about stack sizes and how to play relative to the blinds and people at the table. I make good moves and play properly, but never win.... Period.
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