Well if we stick to the exact wording of your wager you owe me $500.

But as this thread isn't supposed to be taken seriously I'll let you off this time.

"No one pays attention" meaning the poker industry itself or other average players.

This thread is a tire fire, and most people on 2+2 steer clear of it, because they don't care. "Shills" don't really care, they're just part of an infinite discussion. Like Monteroy said, there are endless discussions like this everywhere, whether it's conspiracy **** (moon landings, 9/11) or religion, or rigged poker sites, or whatever.

If we stick to what shill actually MEANS, no, I don't.
He doesn't PRETEND to be a customer, now, does he?

Yeah, "shill" is constantly misused all over 2+2, and as we all know, especially so ITT.

The exact words of your wager my friend.

1) He's an anti-rigger.

2) He's in this thread.

3) He works for the industry.

You owe me $500.

No, this has been explained to you over and over; a shill is someone who pretends to be something he is not, specifically a casual observer or participant in a thread with no ties to either side when in fact he/she is getting paid to participate--Josem does not in any way pretend not to be affiliated with Stars. Are you this dense or are you trolling?

Yes

Selective editing, angle shooter.

The challenge specifically said SHILL. There's plenty of people in this thread that angle shooting entitlement tilting idiots like you love to CALL shills. Prove one of them actually is.

False dichotomy

I don't actually think he is an angle shooter as I doubt he took the offer seriously. It was worded a bit loosely which is never good when making prop bets/offers, particularly toward riggies/trolls who already base their beliefs on vague concepts.

I was just disappointed he went with Josem instead of bringing up my several posts where I said I happily confirm I am a shill being paid $5 by "the industry." This was something riggies initially suggested, and I happily agreed, as it demonstrated another activity which I monetize that they do for free. I even made 5 bucks posting this as part of my official shill duties.

You know very well that the word SHILL as it is used in this thread has a different meaning from it's generally accepted meaning. As it is applied in this thread it has come to mean anyone who is anti-riggie.

Now when you get caught out by making a stupid prop bet you go running for the dictionary and resort to personal abuse. That was even after I graciously told you I wasn't taking it seriously.

In future if you don't intend to honour a bet don't make it in the first place.

P.S. Monteroy, I didn't go with you because the bet required proof. Josem was easy.

i think he's backing out of the deal...it may be time to consider taking your "angle-shooting entitlement tilting idiot" ass down to baltimore, maryland and collect your cash...on principle.

How does the industry add the tangible connection? How does the turn involve the willing silk? How does the vacuous side debug the comparison? When does the protest settle the ripe year? When does the sophisticated limit bolster the number?

The light at the end of the tunnel is like a painted flower; it never wilts. A small mercy is omni-present, much like candy. A wave loudly clashing against a long shoreline shoots pineapples with a machinegun. A great silence is ever present.

No, you are wrong. The riggies that use it for the most part, whether they actually believe it or not, make the specific accusation that posters that disagree with their bat **** crazy theories are actually getting paid by poker sites to confront them. IE they really are accusing them of being shills.

By the way, you mentioned repeatedly that whenever a riggie says something in this thread he is immediately confronted by a group of "shills". The fact is anytime someone says stupid **** in any thread in this forum they are swiftly confronted, especially here in The Zoo. Welcome to 2+2.

It certainly does not mean "anyone who is anti-riggie". It means and has always meant people pretending to be honest players who are actually being paid by the industry.

Which illustrates yet another recurring problem with the riggie arguments:

WORDS MEAN THINGS

You riggies throw out terms you don't understand, ignore more terms you don't understand, then claim you are gifted with vision nobody else has, that the rig is perfectly obvious, meanwhile people with actual working vocabularies are face-palming because you clearly don't understand the words you're using while the math of poker silently laughs at your stupidity.

Find me an actual shill, I'll pay. Josten, who is openly out as being in the employ of the industry, is not a shill, not a plant, not a fake, he's a representative.

See? There's a word that means something too.

I'm still waiting for you to follow up on the hand history database offer I made to you.

you got the wrong guy. i'm not a riggie. i just occasionally stop by for the free peanuts and to see if i can stir up some trouble or make people laugh at my advanced wit and jocularity.

Have I? Is there another "donk" something person ITT that made a testable claim about rigs?

Sorry, its hard to keep all the riggies straight these days.

it may be 'donkeystars'...

I think you're right. Sorry for the mixup.

Oh dear, you're digging yourself into an even deeper hole now. I let you off your stupid prop bet and still you keep insulting me.

Okay if WORDS MEAN THINGS to you find any words in any post I have made where I have said a poker site is rigged or believe a poker site is rigged to back up your claim that I am a riggie.

You seem to make a habit of getting things wrong and this is just another example. If you are going to continue insulting me at least get your facts right.

And try at least to use something original when you insult someone instead of the tired old cliches your type normally trot out when someone disagrees with you.

Quit being an ****ing idiot. He said hed give you $500 if you prove anyone in this thread is a shill. You then named Josem, who isnt a shill, then claimed victory. Wtf is wrong with you?

No he did not. Go back and read the original bet you ****wit

The guy wrote two ****ing sentences in his challenge to you and you are really going to try to take one of them out of context as if no one will notice? GTFO of here with that ****.