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01-06-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
I really don't fear anyone at $200 table stakes HU. Especially the "solid' 2+2 pros. I know there's a better chance they won't stack off with 7-10 off.
The fact that this worries you is very telling. You should be eager for opponents who stack off a lot with T7o.

This thinking is a lot like moving up to where they respect your raises, which results in greater losses about 100% of the time.
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01-06-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
I'll tighten up my range
Since you missed it the first time, this may well be the wrong approach.

Strategy threads. Find them. Use them.
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01-06-2014 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
The fact that this worries you is very telling. You should be eager for opponents who stack off a lot with T7o.
That's just it. I've lost enough times to inferior hands like 7-10 off to my over pair or two overs... that I'd rather guys just fold those hands

There have been so many times I've found soft .10/.25 tables, waited for the prime opportunity, got 'em in and lost to absolute craziness on the turn or river.

It's what brought me to this thread in the first place. But, I'm digressing now.

I'm just looking forward to getting back in the game with a fresh mindset, a positive outlook.

I'll be the punching bag if you guys wanna keep the hits coming. But, I'm just saying, I'm trying to turn my attitude around now.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-06-2014 at 07:04 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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01-06-2014 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Hands like this are just a distraction. They happen to everyone. Your problem is that you're not making enough money in all your other hands to make up for the suck-outs. These hands should not be setting you back so much that you need to dig yourself out of a hole. The reason they are, is because your win-rate is too low in all your other hands.
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
There have been so many times I've found soft .10/.25 tables, waited for the prime opportunity, got 'em in and lost to absolute craziness on the turn or river.




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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
[tightening up] may well be the wrong approach.

Strategy threads. Find them. Use them.

Last edited by Baobhan-Sith; 01-06-2014 at 06:40 PM.
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01-06-2014 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
What do you pros do when you're not sitting here telling the world how bad they are at poker? Do you guys win?

I'd love to watch you play? Any one of you that is talking **** about my game, where do you play? What's your handle? I'd be happy to watch you. Educate me.

Give me your info please. Or, give me an excuse as to why you won't.

Time is worth money. Spending time with you is hardly a positive use of that commodity. I enjoy messing with lower IQ paranoid riggies as much as the next shill, but when I see this


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Originally Posted by YouMissed
What I wouldn't give to play you HU small stakes. Omg!!! Name the site, the time, I'm there. And you can take me for all my money.

Just for once, I'd give anything to play one of you 2+2 arrogant sh#t-talkers. Just once!!!!
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
Now we're talking! Ok, let's make this happen. You'll have to give me a little bit to put $200 together.

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Originally Posted by YouMissed
I'm 41. 2 kids ages 7 and 9.

Front-end web developer by day. ****ty online poker player (and complainer of endless bad beats and runs) by night.

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The way I look at this prop bet, it's win win. Or, as some of your fans might assume, a $200 poker lesson lol!
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
I really don't fear anyone at $200 table stakes HU. Especially the "solid' 2+2 pros. I know there's a better chance they won't stack off with 7-10 off.

The only advice that is appropriate to you given your fairly bleak financial situation is drop all the ego posturing and get a reality check and go out and get a real job to get a stable bit of income, even a relatively small amount. You have real responsibilities beyond your gambling addiction needs, so I will pass on having fun at your expense which would be a bit too easy anyway, and just leave you with that genuine advice that you likely will not follow.

All the best.
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01-06-2014 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by J9Suited
Got to tell this story. Stick with it fellow shills.

HU SNG (low stakes, turbo not hyper). Fairly aggro game in terms of pre flop raise and 3bets.

Blinds still fairly low, (20/40 I think but whatever). I min raise button as standard but actually have a real hand for a change QQ, villain 3bets to 180
Careful posting a bad beat story. Mod Mike Haven might get a fire lit up under his ass and delete your posts, b/c he thinks it should be in a bad beat forum. Guess he forgets that bad beats are the core of this debate. Thanks for removing my last post, prick.
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01-06-2014 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
Careful posting a bad beat story. Mod Mike Haven might get a fire lit up under his ass and delete your posts, b/c he thinks it should be in a bad beat forum. Guess he forgets that bad beats are the core of this debate. Thanks for removing my last post, prick.
Yes, I imagine that if you keep posting bad beats, they will start being deleted, because the vast majority don't want to read your bad beat whining - we have a forum for that very purpose. Individual hand histories don't tell us anything.

But pretty cool with the name calling over what you thought was a deleted post - makes you look really clever when he actually merged your bad beat posts together rather than deleting them.
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01-06-2014 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yes, I imagine that if you keep posting bad beats, they will start being deleted, because the vast majority don't want to read your bad beat whining - we have a forum for that very purpose. Individual hand histories don't tell us anything.

But pretty cool with the name calling over what you thought was a deleted post - makes you look really clever when he actually merged your bad beat posts together rather than deleting them.
Thanks, I just saw they were merged right before I saw your reply and was on my way to edit my post. But I did get a pm saying not to post anymore bad beats in here. I am upset b/c I know there will be hundreds more posted well after mine (whether they are pics or typed out), so I felt like I was unfairly singled out. I also just felt some pics would liven this thread up, vs. the endless text. If other people continue to post them, I will naturally want to join in, since I enjoy sharing my suspicions of a hand not being a coincidence sometimes. If it helps, I'll post a link in the future and not a few pics that have to be scrolled past by those that don't care.
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01-06-2014 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
Guess he forgets that bad beats are the core of this debate.
The core of this debate is how to make the perfect risotto.

you should stop being a lazy fish and start reading all the pages of this thread.
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01-06-2014 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
If other people continue to post them, I will naturally want to join in, since I enjoy sharing my suspicions of a hand not being a coincidence sometimes.
Do you not realize that anecdotal hand histories are not even data? They are nothing in the context of the thread debate. You need a set of multiple consecutive hands to have data. Otherwise you have nothing but meaningless whining that nobody cares about.

The chance of you getting any two specific hole cards with any five specific board cards, is 133 MILLION to one. That's true for every single hold'em showdown you ever see. And that's how significant your single hand posts are. Almost zero. And that doesn't change even when you cherry pick dozens of them. In fact, that makes them less significant, not more.
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01-06-2014 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
Do you not realize that anecdotal hand histories are not even data? They are nothing in the context of the thread debate. You need a set of multiple consecutive hands to have data. Otherwise you have nothing but meaningless whining that nobody cares about.
I apologize. Limpers entice other limpers to join in.
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01-06-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
Thanks, I just saw they were merged right before I saw your reply and was on my way to edit my post. But I did get a pm saying not to post anymore bad beats in here. I am upset b/c I know there will be hundreds more posted well after mine (whether they are pics or typed out), so I felt like I was unfairly singled out. I also just felt some pics would liven this thread up, vs. the endless text. If other people continue to post them, I will naturally want to join in, since I enjoy sharing my suspicions of a hand not being a coincidence sometimes. If it helps, I'll post a link in the future and not a few pics that have to be scrolled past by those that don't care.
Over the life of this thread, I suppose there could be hundreds more. Generally speaking though, more than a handful by any one poster isn't tolerated, although sometimes they are missed and someone gets away with a few extra.

But if it really only takes a small number of hands to raise your suspicions, you should probably work on your mindset or quit playing, unless you don't mind losing or having your winrate reduced form what it could be.
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01-06-2014 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
But if it really only takes a small number of hands to raise your suspicions, you should probably work on your mindset or quit playing, unless you don't mind losing or having your winrate reduced form what it could be.
Thanks, I do need to work on my games.

After 4,454 pages it probably is time some people provide good data.
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01-06-2014 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
Thanks, I do need to work on my games.

After 4,454 pages it probably is time some people provide good data.
Def rigged. I only have 955 pages.
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01-06-2014 , 08:45 PM
jees... to think its actual human beings that are bothering to write a zillion posts in here.
really depressing.
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01-06-2014 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerwannabe101
jees... to think its actual human beings that are bothering to write a zillion posts in here.
really depressing.
Ironic posts are not allowed in this thread. Please read the rules.
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01-06-2014 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerwannabe101
actual human beings
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01-06-2014 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
Ironic posts are not allowed in this thread. Please read the rules.
It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
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01-06-2014 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Alanis Morissette
It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
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01-06-2014 , 09:00 PM
Now that is a solid gimmick account.
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01-06-2014 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Alanis Morissette
It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
Only the last speech bubble is really relevant here.



Heyyyyyyyyyy FREEEEEEDIE! C'mon out boy! C'mon! Aww. No need to hide!
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01-06-2014 , 09:38 PM
It was the coldest winter ever.

Many animals died because of the cold.

The Hedgehogs, realizing the situation, decided to group together to keep warm.

This way they covered and protected themselves; but the quills of each one wounded their closest companions.

After awhile, they decided to distance themselves one from the other and they began to die, alone and frozen.

So they had to make a choice; either accept the quills of their companions or disappear from the Earth.

Wisely, they decided to go back to being together.

They learned to live with the little wounds caused by the close relationship with their companions in order to receive the heat that came from the others.

This way they were able to survive.

The best relationship is not the one that brings together perfect people, but when each individual learns to live with the imperfections of others and can admire the other person's good qualities.

So, the moral of the story is:

Just learn to live with the pricks in your life.
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01-06-2014 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitted
Thanks, I do need to work on my games.

After 4,454 pages it probably is time some people provide good data.
Some have, but then they have always been disappointed when their stats turned out to be pretty normal upon examination. Also some non-riggies have posted huge database stats, always statistically normal.
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01-06-2014 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by YouMissed
Wow, this thread really took off LOL! As OP, I'd like to first and foremost thank all the guys that replied in epic douche bag form. It's been a long time since I posted up on this forum, and I'm quickly reminded as to just how many total pricks there are roaming this site, just waiting to tell you you are the worst poker player on earth.
YM,
Are you really okiehustler?
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01-07-2014 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Alanis Morissette
It's the good advice that you just didn't take.
Well played. Not quite lol but a definite smile crept across my lips this cold and wet Tuesday morning.
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