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04-05-2014 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
After 5k games at pokerstars all i have to say is that when the money really matters the most absurd things keep happening and doesnt stop
Money that "matters" to you may not matter to other people. How does the rig account for that?

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Originally Posted by GreenZen
PS : LAMER Monteroy talks to much but doesnt analyse my hands that are prove im being "Balanced"
Sorry, all I did was offer you $5,000 if you can definitively prove that the Pokerstars RnG is rigged. That offer does not include me spending time doing your work for you. Stop being so lazy. Go to the HEM forums and stats forums and ask how to do a proper analysis for yourself since you are the one whining all day about it with your freeroll beats. If you want me to analyze your hands then the cost will be $250 and I will find the appropriate expert in your game type to do a full analysis ( I will not profit from it at all). You can pay on Pokerstars and payment in advance is required.


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Originally Posted by GreenZen
PS2 : its also discusting seeing that the last of this players , that putted all in with 0 in hope of 3 outter on river , has 283 games at ps and is now gonna FT biggest prize i ever won at ps , after ultra lame plays and 283 games ... if theres not something in the shadows then poker is really a discusting game for some unfortunate players..,
Have a friend create an account then play a really big game for money that "matters" in your 283rd game. Beat the system instead of whining about it, though you should quit all forms of poker right now. Cash out your $10 or whatever and exclude yourself permanently and uninstall the software.

All the best.
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04-06-2014 , 06:27 AM
wtf monteroy freeroll money , i dont play them ?? lamers that play for 3 outters on river are getting them to much , what are u helping with then ??

btw money that matters is usually top 3 to 5 places , but i guess u dont play
to much to understand what im saying ,
u talk to much Monteroy , i don´t want ure ****ing money !!!! put the 5000usd up ure ..... or up ure hhorses ....


I want someone with knowledge that sees my database and find the pathetic scam pokerstars is pulling , thats it , u loose hours of ure life in
here for what ??? when a player really has something to show u bash him what a lol u are u are a joke ,

is it because ure a scammer or because ure ashamed hat one day u will find u were wrong all time?


btw just checked now and the ****** donkey with 283 games that call all in for 75 bb near finaltable with a10 vs my kk on flop with jj4 proceded to get 2nd place for 3700 , funny ****..

Last edited by GreenZen; 04-06-2014 at 06:34 AM.
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04-06-2014 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Translation: I made up everything I said about playnow, since on that site, I can't play now.
Captain obvious.
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04-06-2014 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
wtf monteroy freeroll money , i dont play them ?? lamers that play for 3 outters on river are getting them to much , what are u helping with then ??

btw money that matters is usually top 3 to 5 places , but i guess u dont play
to much to understand what im saying ,
u talk to much Monteroy , i don´t want ure ****ing money !!!! put the 5000usd up ure ..... or up ure hhorses ....


I want someone with knowledge that sees my database and find the pathetic scam pokerstars is pulling , thats it , u loose hours of ure life in
here for what ??? when a player really has something to show u bash him what a lol u are u are a joke ,

is it because ure a scammer or because ure ashamed hat one day u will find u were wrong all time?


btw just checked now and the ****** donkey with 283 games that call all in for 75 bb near finaltable with a10 vs my kk on flop with jj4 proceded to get 2nd place for 3700 , funny ****..
So expect to post your mindless rants and someone will feel sorry for you and do a database analysis for you, free of charge?

And you expect someone to do this work, free if charge, knowing that when they tell you nothing is wrong, you will not believe them.

And you wonder why Monty and the like rip into you. Go do the analysis or PAY someone to do it for you, then come back here with results and you will be the hero of all riggies having exposed the rig (or more likely come back statig that the analysis was wrong and it's still rigged)

Have fun ranting.
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04-06-2014 , 07:52 AM
nothing like that , who are these people and these dumb theories ...... lol again.....


nothing would make me more happie then a conclusion that is not rigged !!!


my games are not free rolls and my roi over 5k mtts and 180 mans is 30%

I know variance can be a natural paranoia inducer , and i smoke weed everyday , i know it can boost this feeling a bit , but i dont want reggie theorie to win u smartass , i just wanna be sure that what is happening to me is indeed very unlucky but just that and nothing more....that´s what i wish...

its frustrating to do so many attempts with the correct odds and getting out deep in torneys against guys that have 1 to 6 outters , hundreds and hundreds of times , last night a guy with 300 games makes the weirdest move , he was so tight for 200+ hands , makes this abnormal move very deep in torney and proceeds to win a miracle and to get 2nd place beating my biggest prize ever ....

its just i make so many attempts with the best hand and never really make that big prize and this guys are making it by going all in with terrible chances...

Last edited by GreenZen; 04-06-2014 at 08:04 AM.
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04-06-2014 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen

I want someone with knowledge that sees my database and find the pathetic scam pokerstars is pulling , thats it , u loose hours of ure life in
here for what ??? when a player really has something to show u bash him what a lol u are u are a joke ,
There have been rumors, that one can analyze his database all by himself....

oh wait, works only with a functioning brain. too bad for you.

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Originally Posted by GreenZen



and my roi over 5k mtts and 180 mans is 30%

I know variance can be a natural paranoia inducer , and i smoke weed everyday


Wow, why is someone replying to you? You're the worst troll ever....
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04-06-2014 , 08:08 AM
I dont have the ammount of knowledge that u can only gain with many hours of reading Rig astley to make sure im doing a correct one .


Im not trolling , the hours i invested that roi is **** for mtts and for the way i play ...
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04-06-2014 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
wtf monteroy freeroll money , i dont play them ?? lamers that play for 3 outters on river are getting them to much , what are u helping with then ??
Never suggested I had interest in helping you. Helping whiners is never productive, and ok - your $1 tournaments then. Feel free to provide your screen name if you want to show the games you play.

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Originally Posted by GreenZen
btw money that matters is usually top 3 to 5 places , but i guess u dont play
Actually it also depends on the format of the game (cash, MTT, SnG etc) as well as the buy in (some play higher than they should, some much lower).

How much money "matters" to you?



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Originally Posted by GreenZen
to much to understand what im saying ,u talk to much Monteroy , i don´t want ure ****ing money !!!! put the 5000usd up ure ..... or up ure hhorses ....
Apparently $5,000 does not "matter" to you, so you must be playing high stakes, right?




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Originally Posted by GreenZen
I want someone with knowledge that sees my database and find the pathetic scam pokerstars is pulling , thats it , u loose hours of ure life in here for what ??? when a player really has something to show u bash him what a lol u are u are a joke ,
Then pay a HEM expert to do an analysis for you, that is how the real world works - people pay for goods and services if they cannot do it themselves.

Also:

Loose = not tight
Lose = not win
Both = easy poker words



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Originally Posted by GreenZen
is it because ure a scammer or because ure ashamed hat one day u will find u were wrong all time?
Prove me wrong. Stop being so lazy and whiny about it and do it.


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Originally Posted by GreenZen
btw just checked now and the ****** donkey with 283 games that call all in for 75 bb near finaltable with a10 vs my kk on flop with jj4 proceded to get 2nd place for 3700 , funny ****..
I already told you how to exploit this if new player boomswitches are true. Have a friend create a new account and play much higher as a "new" player and make millions. You of course will never do this, nor pay someone to analyze your database, rather you will just continue to whine as losers in life do. Better luck with your next whine post - hopefully it will give you a bit more emotional satisfaction.

All the best.
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04-06-2014 , 09:15 AM
Monteroy ure such a troll lol ..........new player boom switches and other weird stuff , i care more for integrity off course then the 5k , do i have to explain u all like a baby ??

The guy was registered since 2008 with 280 games , if i was telling something is weird is that there can be house players not new players boomquack
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04-06-2014 , 09:59 AM
A player with 280 games played is not allowed to win a tournament in your mental world? Ever consider the guy just got lucky and won it, or are house players and rigs the only "logical" explanation? You are the one with the "dumb" theory, so go ahead and prove it (and you get $5,000 if you do).

Not sure what else to tell you. You are not too bright, you are fairly paranoid and you complain a lot, but do nothing to try to fix your mental problems. Lots of lower grade humans such as yourself exist, that is part of life, and civilization has granted you kind an escape from Darwinian law.

In contrast, the poker economy loves your kind, so for its sake keep playing. For your sake you should quit all forms of poker.

All the best.
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04-06-2014 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
Monteroy ure such a troll lol ..........new player boom switches and other weird stuff , i care more for integrity off course then the 5k , do i have to explain u all like a baby ??

The guy was registered since 2008 with 280 games , if i was telling something is weird is that there can be house players not new players boomquack
The only person that needs to have things explained to them like to a little baby is you. A brain and two hours of research on publically available websites (pro advice: google "wikipedia") is enough to do an analysis on your own. If you lack brain, which very much seems to be the case, pay someone. Got it?

The time you spent whining here so far would have easily sufficed to learn some statistics and do it. I really wonder how 100% of riggies fail even trying to learn something that is basic stuff for a poker player. Does it hurt physically or something?
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04-06-2014 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
i smoke weed everyday
only users lose drugs......er, uh...
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04-06-2014 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenZen
lamers that play for 3 outters on river are getting them to much , what are u helping with then ??

btw just checked now and the ****** donkey with 283 games that call all in for 75 bb near finaltable with a10 vs my kk on flop with jj4 proceded to get 2nd place for 3700 , funny ****..
AT vs KK on a JJ4 flop isn't a 3 outer.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
2,280,960 trials (Exhaustive)
board: JJ4
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AT14.42% 328,8600
KK85.58% 1,952,1000

Also, how did AT call a 75 BB all in there? Is a massive overshove on the flop a regular move in your arsenal?

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Originally Posted by GreenZen
I know variance can be a natural paranoia inducer , and i smoke weed everyday , i know it can boost this feeling a bit , but i dont want reggie theorie to win u smartass , i just wanna be sure that what is happening to me is indeed very unlucky but just that and nothing more....that´s what i wish...
I'd be amazed if you were even actually unlucky.
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its frustrating to do so many attempts with the correct odds and getting out deep in torneys against guys that have 1 to 6 outters , hundreds and hundreds of times
Yet another rigtard who has no ****ing idea what "x outer" even means.

Maybe try bitching less about boring as **** "beats" and learn some ****ing math.
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04-06-2014 , 01:37 PM
GreenZen, the ability to type in coherent English sentences on the forum is highly correlated with the poster's intelligence.

(Yes, I understand that for some people, English is not their first language. However, I am referring to the general use of sentences, punctuation, and paragraphs, which is something that even a beginning English speaker should be able to do.)

What this means, GreenZen, is that there is a very high probability that you are of relatively low intelligence. Unfortunately, this will probably stop you from being successful at poker, or at life in general. As such, I understand why you are so angry.

Good luck overcoming your obvious mental handicaps and making something of yourself.

All the best.

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Originally Posted by franxic
The only person that needs to have things explained to them like to a little baby is you. A brain and two hours of research on publically available websites (pro advice: google "wikipedia") is enough to do an analysis on your own. If you lack brain, which very much seems to be the case, pay someone. Got it?

The time you spent whining here so far would have easily sufficed to learn some statistics and do it. I really wonder how 100% of riggies fail even trying to learn something that is basic stuff for a poker player. Does it hurt physically or something?
Cut him some slack. There is no way that this guy has the mental capacity to understand even elementary statistics given infinite time. I'm personally shocked that he even managed to create an account and post. We should be congratulating him for that.

Also, given his crippling stupidity, he has probably not been able to earn the necessary money to pay someone to analyze his database. It is likely he cannot even afford Hold'em Manager or Poker Tracker. Even if he could, he would then have to be able to navigate to the website and locate the purchase button.

Asking too much, I think.
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04-07-2014 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
A player with 280 games played is not allowed to win a tournament in your mental world? Ever consider the guy just got lucky and won it, or are house players and rigs the only "logical" explanation? You are the one with the "dumb" theory, so go ahead and prove it (and you get $5,000 if you do).

Not sure what else to tell you. You are not too bright, you are fairly paranoid and you complain a lot, but do nothing to try to fix your mental problems. Lots of lower grade humans such as yourself exist, that is part of life, and civilization has granted you kind an escape from Darwinian law.

In contrast, the poker economy loves your kind, so for its sake keep playing. For your sake you should quit all forms of poker.

All the best.
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04-07-2014 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by laurents
Captain obvious.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 04-07-2014 at 02:36 AM. Reason: Posts like yours, made sarcastically, are rather a waste of time ITT since that's pretty much exactly what a riggie would say
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04-07-2014 , 06:01 PM
Online is so rigged can monteroy prove its not rigged i give him 2k dollar.
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04-07-2014 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vik_Fisk
Online is so rigged can monteroy prove its not rigged i give him 2k dollar.
If he proves he never ate a dick I will give him $$ 999.999.999.999.000 dollars.

He obviously has.

All the best
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04-07-2014 , 10:33 PM
Riggies certainly have interesting fantasies and obsessions. If they ever had money they might be able to afford an interesting reality instead.

Better luck in the freerolls and 2NL tables, though you should quit all forms of poker.

All the best.
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04-07-2014 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Vik_Fisk
Online is so rigged can monteroy prove its not rigged i give him 2k dollar.
If you can prove that you have never masturbated to child porn, I will give you $1,000,000.


If you do not send me this proof within the next 24 hours, I will assume that you are a sick pedo and proceed accordingly.

All the best.

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04-08-2014 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AlmostShark
If he proves he never ate a dick I will give him $$ 999.999.999.999.000 dollars.

He obviously has.

All the best

Yeah, Im sure you can start saving up someday after you finally become capable of earning $50 to get your sister a present.

Good luck with that. Keep hope alive.
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04-08-2014 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Riggies certainly have interesting fantasies and obsessions. If they ever had money they might be able to afford an interesting reality instead.

Better luck in the freerolls and 2NL tables, though you should quit all forms of poker.

All the best.
Can you just show me the evidence online poker is not rigged please and no horse **** you mule.

Thanks.
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04-08-2014 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vik_Fisk
Can you just show me the evidence online poker is not rigged please and no horse **** you mule.

Thanks.
If the fact that hundreds of riggies couldn't find anything is not enough for you, then arguing with you makes no sense anyway. Every single riggie who tried failed, manipulated the results or disappeared.

Prove you never kicked an old lady in the butt first. Wait, you say that's not possible? Ding ding ding.. Doesn't take too much brain to see you cannot prove a negative. Congrats on showing you don't have enough.

If it was rigged, how do you explain noone proved it so far? Are riggies too dumb?
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04-08-2014 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by franxic
If the fact that hundreds of riggies couldn't find anything is not enough for you, then arguing with you makes no sense anyway. Every single riggie who tried failed, manipulated the results or disappeared.

Prove you never kicked an old lady in the butt first. Wait, you say that's not possible? Ding ding ding.. Doesn't take too much brain to see you cannot prove a negative. Congrats on showing you don't have enough.

If it was rigged, how do you explain noone proved it so far? Are riggies too dumb?
I-poker is proven rigged (www.ispokerrigged.com)

When samples A and B were analysed together and it was found that there was a bias in the sample of over 4.2 standard deviations. This should occur very rarely due to variance - roughly once in every 53,500 tests
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04-08-2014 , 05:13 AM
Aaaand they say that is probably because of colluding bots (iPoker has a long history of accepting bots on their site). Which is bad (I personally wouldn't play there), but is completely different from a rigged rng.

Did you miss that, or did you ignore to try and prove your point?
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