I remember the FT defenders, saying the game wasn't rigged and well, we know how that turned out. My biggest concern for online poker these days is that of bots working together on tables.

Oh, I just do it to I don't have to admit I'm a donk. Since you know, the rig always rewards the bad player, and since I've been profitable since I've started playing at Bovada, well...I have to defend it to protect my pride!

No, I must have missed that part where the FT deal was shown to be rigged and not a fair game. Please provide links and citations.

As I recall, even thieving scumbags who illegally spent player's funds and committed bank fraud, still dealt a fair game of poker. Did I miss something?

Wow! There is a bunch of you here. Especially for a thread about rigged poker.

Anyway, for your math, since all you Jeniouses can't translate. Two (that's 2, btw) out of 300 hands were quads (4 matching cards, same number you know) vs quads.

And overall, six(6) out of every ten(10) flops I saw(ie. 60%) connected to my hole cards.

Hope that helped break it down for you. Guess that's just normal poker for you guys though. lol

Really hope the rest of this site isn't that jacked up, think I might have just wasted 5min signing up for this joke

And your point in that is?

If you never fold as long as quads are still possible (meaning paired by the flop and trips by the turn), the rate a single player should be dealt quads in hold'em is 1 in 594 hands. And you're talking about 9 players. Obviously people do fold and the rate is less, but I don't feel like doing the math because your number doesn't seem very remarkable.

I think you have a misperception of how often things should happen.

No, no you're right, there's no way it could be variance over a massive sample of 300 hands. Rigged is the only possibility.

Nicely done.

Blah, blah, blah...If it's a big sample size the answer is "Well in that many hands you're going to see some odd things". If it's a small sample size the answer is "Not enough evidence". Bovada must have sent in the A-team.

If there is anybody here that really plays poker, just go with the at least 35% that say it's rigged and stay away! But if you just can't resist and want to see full houses and quads every other hand, it's good entertainment for a bit. Don't bother coming here to talk about it though. Got the A-team with nothing better to do than run you in the ground and post 4000+ pages of bs to cover it all up.

I sense the return of blatantly******ed with another account. Or maybe just a kindred spirit.

Yes, Bobo, that's genius with a J (you're new nickname). Nothin slips past you guys! You must all be poker pro millionaires. Just hanging out here defending your casino for your pride. That's what us poker pros do all night you know.

Sure glad I took the time to check out 2+2 and online poker, great community! And entertaining to boot!! Think I'll go back to real poker now. Been fun

And even a bonus "o"! I don't usually bother to nit-pick spelling or grammar, but it's always amusing when someone butchers a simple word when trying to insult other people's intelligence.

I don't own a casino; that would be nice. I actually work for 2+2, and we have multiple online poker sites and live casinos that advertise with us. But don't let the facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories - the thought that Bovada pays 5 or 10 people to "bury" (LOL at the thought of burying posts by putting them all in a massive thread that stays at the top of the forum at almost all times, rather than just deleting them) your insightful posts sounds very credible.

You might find this forum of interest, then:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27/brick-mortar/

You keep ****ing that chicken.

I'll give you a more serious response as well, on the off chance that you're actually sincere about all of this and not just trolling. Your sample size is ridiculously small, and finding rigging to be the one and only possibility for your results is pretty silly. Of course that certainly is one possibility, but far from the only one, or the most likely one. If you care, there are lots of great forums here to help you with figuring out the probability, as well as to help you with playing the game profitably. If that's of interest to you, then I'm more than happy to point you in the right direction. But if 300 hands is truly enough to convince you that a site is rigged, then yes, you're probably best to stick with live play. Best of luck to you either way.

The Jenious has spoken! Thank you soo much for the guidance.

My serious response: after making a living with poker for the last 6 years I found it very interesting that the number of premium hands vs premium hands is a huge % higher on Bovada. Also think it's interesting that a thread about online poker fraud has nothing but people defending it.

After what I've seen from this thread, if I ever choose to improve my game by studying the net, this will be the last place I look.

Yo, we know you suck at poker.

Quit frontin.


You obviously arent built for this.

You played one hour of poker and are crying like a little girl because you lost.


Take your own advice and stick to playing live, where you can fool yourself into believing that you have a clue because you can sometimes squeak out a profit against opponents that are as horrific as you, or go get Hello Kitty Island on PS3, thats more your speed.

Good luck with both.

The rigged thread? Good thinking.

If you mean the rest of 2+2, that'll be your loss. Judging what this entire forum is like based on a single thread isn't any more sensible than judging an online poker site on 300 hands.

Hog
lol! What a joke of a site!

Guess you're just another proud online player defending the online casino's.

MSG me here if you ever come to Vegas. Thinking you'd be the typical net nerd that thinks he's gonna be the next durrr, love that type of newbie. Twice as aggressive+twice as dumb=money in my pocket

The riggies have been boring recently. This new guy shows promise though.

not really to much of a cliché live player.if he is for real he will just disapear very quick.



i had quads over quads happen at a brick and mortar table.
dont worry you arent the first live player that tries out online and gets totally obliterated.
just play smaller stakes online and try to improve. the way you play live just wont cut it online.


so what are you thinking that example illustrates?
and yeah you will propably not like this site when you talk bull**** you will be called out on it, no matter where you post. so you will be correctedwhen you post you have played 300 hands ran into some big hands so iot got to be rigged.
i cant be sure but i think chances are you are a abysimal player based on your statements in this thread, so you would propably be corrected on your awfull plays in the stratsections, which is good thing but you propably wouldnt like it.

I'm not.

I find it awesome how whenever a riggie is proved wrong, they just resort to an even more outlandish conspiracy theory to justify their position.

Your right don, I will be gone soon. Too tempting to get these clowns going for now though. Especially all that are trying to convince me that quads vs quads is just a daily experience in poker. F'ing great! Happens 3 times a day online huh? Lol. Thanks for confirming - Bovada=BS.

But I get it guys, online poker advertising is this sites bread and butter. Facts won't ever mater, always gonna come back with some backwards odds that only a newbie would believe.

Recent turn of this thread makes me sad I don't have better access to live poker.

lol @ n00b who's mind is blown by playing more than 10 hands per hour...

Yep. Another low-stakes live player tries online poker and learns that:

• it's looser and more aggressive
• thus lots more boards seen
• and more showdowns seen
• and way more hands per hour too
• thus many more made hands are seen
• also learns that at similar stakes, online skill levels are far higher than live
• newb gets killed
• mind is blown
• whines rigged

Happens over and over.

I thought the only amusing thing about him was that he believes everyone is a Bovada hired shill when he is probably the only one who even played there from those talking to him or about him.

Wonder what the riggies who say new players always run hot would say about his very quick crash and burn temper tantrum. Maybe they would think he is a fake trying to disprove their beliefs of a new player boomswitch. Perhaps hired by Bovada?

He played 300 hands , so hardly time to spot anything . He likely got equalized a couple of times for being over aggresive when ahead. I doubt very much he is the calibre of player he portrays himself to be , at any rate...