You make good points, I guess I wasn't looking at it from a poker for a job point of view.

I'm still in the honey moon phase where I actually love the game

That's fine. I wish you all the best. You can vastly increase your chances of succes by focussing on flaws in your own game, rather than a yet to be proven flaw in the software or marketing strat of your poker room or the outcome of certain hands, because that's what you can control and improve on. Maybe consider getting coached (not kidding).

GL & HF

It depends what you mean by "big money." Many make their living with online play.

From playing? No. From backing players? Yes.



You really seem angry at the world. The fact you cannot make sense of it is your limitation and shows you do not understand how simple business works. Many industries have similar models of training, do you hate them all?


My point is far less bitter. In a market system people can charge what they want for a service and product they will provide. Others can choose to buy it or not and that in the end determines the price.

If you do not think coaching is worth xxx then do not buy it and if more do not buy it the price drops or the service goes away. Simple market forces at work, ones that apply to pretty much every industry in the world.


Using sex to sell a product that appeals mainly to males? You really think Pokerstars invented that?


Dude, stop thinking what you watch on TV matters at all to the industry, because it does not. You are angry at anyone who has success, likely because you have none. Find an activity you may be good at and try to do well at that and perhaps all your innate bitterness will go away (doubt it).

All the best.

"You seem angry at the world"

You base that on nothing more than your desperate need to make me look bad I'm afraid. I have done nothing to demonstrate that I am unhappy with the world, at all lol.
You make aggressive assumptions which conveniently coincide with your ill-put-together argument which simply aren't true.

Assumptions you've made that you can't even know based on what you know about me so far:
That I am angry at the world
That I don't understand how business works
That I even dislike how normal business practices work

"Pokerstars didnt invent sex sells"

I know that, I was merely pointing out that pokerstars is yet another gimmick, on par with infomercial products. You actauly emphasized my point for me.


"You are angry at someone who has success because you have none"

You speak as if you have success yourself, you openly admit that you are not a winning poker player. Why are you trying to come off as if you are some kind of success story?


You want to psychoanalyze me? It's my turn to do it to you:

I think you are a try hard who wants to fit in
Probably neglected horribly in high school, your childhood was decent, loved by parents and you had a decent home to live in.
You were never complete, though, you turned to the internet for a distraction from how piss poor your social life was. You probably discovered poker at about... 17-18? Tried to become good, not even good enough to go pro during the boom, though. Gave it up, never let go of the poker forums. You feel a desperate need to fit in with people somewhere, the only place you know how, here.

If my read on you is wrong, please do clarify (with proof) to the contrary. Pictures of you as an adolescent teen will help to verify that you were anything more than a complete, utter loser.
All the best

Why are you spending more time arguing the point than you spend posting the link to what you claim happened?

And your evidence to support this is...?

Two answers.

(a) because money and (b) not relevant to rigz0rs.

Didn't read the rest. Sorry. Come back when you can read the thread title.

Have I ever said that poker is rigged?

why are you so quick to throw me in the same category as those ******s?
Is it because that is the most convenient way for you to return to your daily routine of sucking up to your 2+2 "Friends" and picking on anyone who disagrees with your opinion of online poker?

I think so

All the best




Dummy






While I'm at it, I will throw this out there to anyone who can read it:

Is there anyone here who can claim they are an online success story?

Anyone at all?

If you can provide proof that you are able to play poker so successfully online that you are able to:
Pay bills
Eat
Live on your own
Have a vehicle

Or otherwise live a normal life from poker and poker alone, lmk scrawns

Ill tell you what

I will even give a 50 dollar free roll to any individual who can post a picture of them smiling as they insert a bill into the ATM paid for by poker winnings. (Requires proof with Graph and bank statements to show transfers)

Ill wait

Actually, you don't even have to do that.

Look guys

I just want any one of you trolls to come out and say it with a straight face that you are a successful online player, making enough money to support yourself on poker alone.


Can you even do that?

Look over your posts where you yell about coaches and advertising campaigns and Phil Hellmuth etc. They look like the words of a Jolly Good Fellow?



Dude, I just quote you. Your words and tone pretty much speak for themselves.


How about this then, why don't you list what your specific points are about the industry or the RnG (since this is a rigged thread), and back them with reasoning. When you say something like "pokerstars is another gimmick" that shows a lack of understanding how the world works to be blunt.






Shrug, I have had this debate too many times. If you think playing poker is the only way to make money in this industry then I have no idea what to tell you other than you have a very limited scope of understanding.

Here is a hint. I made a healthy 6 figures on a single casino bonus that Will Hill offered for nearly 2 years fairly recently. Money is money. Who cares if I win or lose a few bucks playing poker, it does not matter to my situation.


Fit in with what? I insult riggies and I insult "shills" in this thread. Who am I trying to fit into? Anyone who knows me would laugh at that assessment of yours.

When people cite very specific scenarios like this they tend to be drawing from their own experiences. Pretty basic psychology actually, you may want to google it before you theorize next time in this manner.


I never actually "discovered poker." It was a total byproduct of a team of bonus whores I organized nearly 10 years ago (most money was through the casino ones). That being said, I did eventually clear a healthy 5 figures monthly from poker bonuses as well with the team (though mainly paying others to play) , though the casino ones were much more lucrative.

I never cared a single bit about "moving up" or being a TV pro or any trivial goals like that. I only cared about money. Guys like you never quite get that which is why you cling to trivial things like how much I specifically make at poker playing it, when that was never more than 1% of my earnings in any year. Every year I would sharkscope or look at the annual database to see what meaningless "poker wins or losses" to put it in the appropriate line of my income statement for the year, and that's it.


You wanting pictures of other dudes when they were teenagers is pretty creepy. If you want some less creepy details/proof of some of those old activities you can read this thread for instance:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...d-days-676038/


Go to the strategy forums and ask that there and you will get a long list of people who can prove they do just that. I likely back some of them. Asking that in a riggie thread is meaningless since most people who post here on both sides are casual players at best, and the couple of shills who have posted success of the type that you ask have their results disregarded by your kind anyway.


How many people you want to do this? I can ask some of the people I back and I suspect you would have a lot of $50 charges as a result. How much you willing to invest in this, let me know and I will find the appropriate number of people who can provide the proof you like. You will have to of course escrow the money first, but that should not be a problem for a big shooter like yourself, right?

Look, I know you are a casual player who claims to "love poker," but if that is the case then just play and enjoy the game and stop getting so bitter about topics that have zero impact on your ability to do just that. Your posting hisory does not quite show the love you seem to believe you have for this activity

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...table-1252057/

Yeah, you are hardly angry at the world...

All the best.

Didn't even read lol

I did not expect you to read nor understand it right away, even though you will eventually read it and feel that rage thing burn inside you. I did limit the size of each paragraph so as not to tire you out when you do give reading it a shot, and if any words are too big simply tell me. Guys like you always quickly quit a debate you try to start and realize you have no hope of winning.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-home-1112816/

Put on a disguise the next time you post...


Being a racist and using disguises, you certainly are not angry and paranoid about the world around you, are you?

All the best.

I think you've just figured out the problem. Congratulations.

WOW. FIFTY WHOLE DOLLARS IN EXCHANGE FOR GATHERING A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXTREMELY PERSONAL FINANCIAL DATA AND HANDING IT TO A STRANGER!!



But I'll just throw this out there.

If anyone who goes by the online moniker "Solowins" can provide proof that they are able to hold down a job such that they are able to:

Pay bills
Eat
Live on your own
Have a vehicle

Or otherwise live a normal life from a job and a job alone, lmk scrawns

Ill tell you what

I will even give a crisp 50 dollar bill to any individual who can post a picture of them smiling as they insert a bill into the ATM paid for by a regular job winnings. (Requires proof with Graph and bank statements to show payroll receipts)

Ill wait

Uh oh. Someone's butthurt.

LOL@ how deep you are taking this into your heart

all the best

No, Monte isn't going to sleep with you

I love how you two still aren't getting this, at all.


LOL

So you're not willing to take up your own challenge? Shocked, yes, shocked I say! By your own standard I guess nobody can support themselves with a 9-to-5.

Welcome to the idiot file. /ignored

Jesus H. Christ, could we get some competent riggies in here? The last three months have been a constant onslaught of garden-variety trolls.

Using plural is probably a mistake now that I think about it.

Why would I do something I asked you to do?

the whole point of of telling other people to do things is to let some other idiot do what you don't want to do. You had the choice all along not to do it, I just thought I'd give it a try.


Who's even trolling btw?

Are you not a losing online player who wastes his days giving belly rubs to anyone who will give you a pat on the back online?

Damn you follow like half of those. And the best part is you are oblivious to it. Good stuff.

Sorry I corrupted the real ones Godboy, I assume that post showed when you were searching amid reading the religion forum. Last time you visited I seem to recall you left in a fairly bad mood, but perhaps you will do better this time. OFfer that solwins dude some help, what do you think of him given the threads he has started?


Get what? Just another day in the riggie thread, you are hardly different other than that racist thing you have going on. Nobody really takes the thread seriously, even most of the riggies. I have not posted in a while, so was a nice change of pace.

Looks like you are not going to be much fun, and quitting the chat was your best move, so time for you to get on with your mundane life already, and Godboy tagged in anyway so you are no longer needed.

All the best.

You're almost there, you'll catch on soon

this is like the part in the movie where the protagonist flashes back through all of the memories and pieces together all of the images which add up to how stupid he was all along to be played so easily.


I want you to re read everything I have written over the past 10ish posts.




Then think about the fact that you wrote an essay toward it

Butthurt fish is butthurt

You are old news, Godboy is more fun anyway. If you want to do the "I was trolling all the time" thing then fine, that's done pretty much every week by guys like you when you lose momentum in your thoughts, and it does not matter if you believe it or if it is even true. Good luck with that rage stuff (unless of course your thread in the psychology forum was a troll as well...)

All the best.

You keep falling for it lol


I mean dude, I talked about talonchick rubbing chips on her nipples.

How did you not know?


LOL

Hey you remembered me!! Congratulations you might not have early onset altimeters. Still cant get away form acting like i little child but you dont have that, so thats something.

LOL

I cheated by searching and saw all your recent posts were about Islam and Jesus. Not too many others in this thread have that pedigree. Until then I admit I did not remember, and in that vein I don't think "altimeters" means quite what you suspect!

You talk about children and solwins wants pictures of children. Kind of a weird twist in the riggie thread.

Welcome back Godboy!!

All the best.

What happens in your mind where you see this post:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...table-1252057/


and don't immediately realize it is fraudulent?


You are a poker player, right?


You can't even be banned for using slurs on stars, they are ****'d out, you goof LOL.

So easy


"When somebody of ethnicity"

ROFL, sometimes I amaze even myself with some of the crap I pull and get away with.
Look at all of the suckers in that thread XD

When I see that thread I see a dude who has rage issues asking about them in an appropriate forum (one that is generally not "trolled"), and when you got some replies you thanked them with

If you want to claim that that thread (one of a total of 3 you started ever) was an elaborate troll / level in the psychology forum then go for it. That certainly makes a lot of sense...

You can "amaze yourself" with revisionist history to your heat's content, but others see it for what it is.

All the best.