I can't wait till we find out how players are profiled and pooled

This doesn't sound right.

Let's go from the assumption riggies are making - there is a rig already set up to increase the rake rooms are taking in, and it can't be proven with hand histories. But instead of tweaking this rig to bring in more money, the sites decide to make a change that everyone is aware of and outrages thousands of players. Why?

But why wouldn't hand histories bear this out? Check your stats for hands in critical spots and in non-critical spots.

Putting aside how ridiculous this sounds coming from a guy who calls everyone who didn't respond to his thread the way he wanted idiots and telling them to **** off, I'm not following how it applies to the posts you're responding to. You really thought those posts sounded rude and angry? Not even close IMO.

Um, no. This is Ludacris:

I never said anything in this, was Jjwhite, so u physically erased his name and inserted mine? That doesn't sound like something someone in the online poker industry would do.

Cute how riggies will give a passing nod and wink to a significant change in the way a large operator runs their games, but will not get too distracted by that legitimate issue, and will get back on target by saying "this will lead to some new rig."

Maybe the new rig will involve straight draws. They seem under appreciated.



Agreed. You will get yours.


If you look closely at your thread where you ask for other pokers to give you positive feedback (and then yell at them all when they do not pat you on the head as you request), you may discover that poker for you will not be a team sport. Any time you sit at the table everyone else there wants you to fail, more so due to your delusional entitlement personality. Welcome to the world.

Lucky for me that the subsection of Pokerstars tournaments represent a tiny portion of my played online "poker career" and in addition poker playing in general represents no significant portion of my income in this industry.

Kind of cool that I make $250 or whatever still on something like that from a single room. That is probably more monthly than you make as a full time player on Cake, and you have no other sources of income in this industry.


You deserve to get what is coming to you as you say, and you will. We definitely agree on that general concept.


All the best.

Nope, TBH, no idea how that happened. I remember when I scanned back over it after I posted, I was surprised to see your name on that quote as I thought it was JJ as well, but figured I must've misremembered. Seeing your post, I just now went back and checked; that quote tag was from your previous "get a girlfriend" post. I guess I must've made some kind of cut-and-paste error but I still don't know how that one would've ended up there since I wasn't quoting you at all.

Anyway, my humblest apologies; I've fixed it now.

LOL.

Priceless

lol

I don't think online poker is rigged, I think it's just a really sick game. Here is a graph of all my 100nl hands from this year. As you can see I am running 32 buy ins under ev over 72k hands. Despite this I've still put up a solid winrate.

Now imagine if someone is a breakeven or slight winner, and they go through a stretch like this. I think it would be easy for them to feel like it is rigged. Even I have to admit the last 20k hands have been a real test of my tilt control, where it just seems like no matter what I can't win. It's very easy to start imagining the site conspiring against you.

Wait, so poker is not rigged?

If Heineken ran a poker site it would be the least rigged in the world.

Probably.

So how did you get to this stage in these tournaments? Why didn't they just knock you out nice and early so you joined another tournament? Weren't you lucky to get that far?

If you were to do a live commentary of the tournament how would your analysis of the riggedness sound?

I deserved to win that one, I had the best hand.
Here comes the bad beat, watch this suckout, here comes the club...oh, I won one at last.
I deserved to win that one, I had the best hand.
RIIIGGGGGEEED! I knew that was coming!
Oh, I sucked out for once. Wasn't big pot though.
I deserved to win that one, I had the best hand.
Here comes the A. It's coming. There's the river pau.. Oh. Well it would be too obvious if they did it every time.
RIIIGGGGGEEED! I knew that was coming!
I may have sucked out again but I still played it right so I deserved it
I knew he'd have AA. Typical rigged setup
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Basically it is a serious of random events that you turn into your own little story because you can't handle it.

Except the only unlucky streak in that graph is all between hands ~53K to 64K and a little more at the end, and the rest is all just about even, never more than $200-$300 off anywhere.

So you basically have a 11-12K hand unlucky streak, not a 72K hand unlucky streak. Do you have any idea what the standard deviation is NLHE? For 72K hands, 32 buy-ins is probably not even 2 SD's under expectation, depending on your personal style. At 100BB/100 the SD is about 27 buy-ins.

a serious of random events???

Not sure what language that makes sense in. Don't really need to defend my story to another yoda who can't even spell.

Pretty sure they have spelling class at the local elementary school. WTF???

You almost have to try to make a mistake that bad. But anyways...

I like how you guys try to talk to everyone like you're the adult and we're the children.

Another "Luke I am your father" Darth Vader wannabee.

Look...We are not in the future...This is not planet Alderon...You don't have the force...and you are simply not Darth Vader.

Look anyone who plays poker on a regular basis can clearly see how these sites reward bad play.

MY GOD!!! Is your bedroom covered in star wars memorabilia? sheets/pillowcases?
Your analogies wreak of a pasty 85lb pimple infested mommas boy.
No offense

7:00 AM and these guys are already on the time clock. Still in their underwear and sipping their first cup of coffee and already logged on to the "poker is rigged" thread.

Guys...Why else would you be on these forums first thing in the morning if you weren't defending these sites for a purpose.

Aside from all the criticism about everyones play at the tables let's think about that for a minute...

The first thing you do on a daily basis is log on to the computer and open the rigged thread. Why is that?

Also I understand that pokerstars has thousands and thousands of hands in the Sunday Million so why would they rig hands...Not talking about pokerstars though. They are big enough where they don't have to rig hands to make money. I'm talking about the little sites like revolution and merge and most definitely winning poker network.

I mean today already I played 1 tourney and 3 hands in a row i lost to quads on the flop, next hand was runner runner spades for the fish to backdoor the flush, and then the next hand the fish flopped a straight.

3 hands in a row. I would like to see anyone over the course of a million or more hands deal out 3 hands in a row w/ a real deck in real life.

Not going to happen...You know it, I know it, and the universe knows it

maybe but the reality is a 275lb 6ft 8in ex college football player, masculine faced, strikingly handsome, independent, musically inclined poker mastermind

Use the force

Did you really write a whole post about that error and Star Wars and ignore everything else? You know it was caused by your insightful posts sending me into a rage.

Why do you post in this thread if you have no intention of discussing anything?

I am pretty sure that I am better educated than you and I am pretty sure that you know it too. Well done though, give yourself a pat on the back.

Erm... aren't you still in your Star Wars Pajamas?

Not sure if youre talking about yourself or your "life partner"
no offense

It's like you are arguing with me even though we are making the same point. I was posting the graph to show a real world example of the variance, and how when someone is going through that it's easy to see why they might start thinking it is rigged.

Also I would say it is a 72k hand unlucky streak because it basically never is over ev. As much a chance you have as running under ev, you should have the same chance to run over ev, and it's kind of funny that it never does. I'm sure after 1 million hands I might see some run good though.

Ok im not 6ft 8 but i was pretty good back in high school. Anyways why do you keep chiming in with your cloak on when nobody is really talking to you?

no offense

fyp



couldn't help myself

My mistake.

Once you deviate from EV, you tend to stay that way for quite a bit. For the most part your lines are actually pretty close, they're just apart from each other from one or two big EV swings.

very nice...very nice...lots of talent here!!!

You know there's a subscribed threads page which bumps new posts in your subscribed threads to the top, right?